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  • DOS 6.22 Vostro 3560 - confused

    From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 1 20:11:30 2023
    I ran emacs 24 and got sigsegv 28 hung, 26 is slow and can't find files

    I think I was running 26 well a few months ago when I played with the non-DOS partitions and somehow reset some environment variables.

    UEFI and AHCI are turned off.

    Plus for some reason today tin, flies off before posting

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  • From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 1 20:26:55 2023
    emacs 19.34 issues a blank line and returns to prompt,
    24 gives sigsegv,
    28 hangs,
    26 is slow and can't find files

    I think I was running 26 well a few months ago when I played with the non-DOS partitions and somehow reset some environment variables.

    The current behavior of 26 is the degradation that made me seek other
    versions before, but 26 had worked well before

    UEFI and AHCI are turned off. no himem.sys

    Plus for some reason today tin/putty flies off before posting
    and I may have posted redundantly (sorry)

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  • From JJ@21:1/5 to vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co on Sun Jul 2 08:33:21 2023
    On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 20:26:55 -0000 (UTC),
    vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
    emacs 19.34 issues a blank line and returns to prompt,
    24 gives sigsegv,
    28 hangs,
    26 is slow and can't find files

    I think I was running 26 well a few months ago when I played with the non-DOS partitions and somehow reset some environment variables.

    The current behavior of 26 is the degradation that made me seek other versions before, but 26 had worked well before

    UEFI and AHCI are turned off. no himem.sys

    Plus for some reason today tin/putty flies off before posting
    and I may have posted redundantly (sorry)

    Either it uses too much memory, or there's a problem with the compiler regarding translating *nix to DOS environment.

    Types of storage controller shouldn't be a problem.

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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 08:02:20 2023
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    emacs 19.34 issues a blank line and returns to prompt,
    24 gives sigsegv,
    28 hangs,
    26 is slow and can't find files

    This probably means you don't have a workable DPMI environment. What
    is the OS you are using, and what does go32-v2 report when you run it
    with no arguments?

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  • From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 2 19:21:10 2023
    *+-This probably means you don't have a workable DPMI environment. What
    *+-is the OS you are using, and what does go32-v2 report when you run it *+-with no arguments?

    MSDOS 6.22

    There is a CWSDPMI inside emacs/bin

    What is go32-vw?

    Much Obliged

    I am unlikely to be able to work on this for a week
    (moving from NYC to Binghamton)


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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 05:28:55 2023
    From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
    Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2023 19:21:10 -0000 (UTC)
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    *+-This probably means you don't have a workable DPMI environment. What *+-is the OS you are using, and what does go32-v2 report when you run it *+-with no arguments?

    MSDOS 6.22

    There is a CWSDPMI inside emacs/bin

    Is emacs/bin on PATH?

    What is go32-vw?

    go32-v2 is a program that comes with DJGPP. Do you have djdev205.zip installed? If not, I suggest to install it.

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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 18:55:26 2023
    From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
    Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2023 15:16:46 -0000 (UTC)
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    Really thanks for this. I had the hunch CWSDPIM or some driver.SYS was the issue.

    Might there be problems with different versions of CWSDPMI or even with my having too many copies in the path?

    I'd suspect first some mis-configuration regarding the extended
    memory. Emacs needs some minimal amount of it, and without that might
    crash or simply exit. Running go32-v2 will tell how much memory DJGPP
    programs can have on that system, and if the amount is too small, you
    should look at your autoexec.nt and config.nt files for solutions.

    Thanks

    Again much obliged

    Not just for now, but for the past twenty five years of your helpfulness

    You are welcome.

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  • From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 15:16:46 2023
    Really thanks for this. I had the hunch CWSDPIM or some driver.SYS was the issue.

    Might there be problems with different versions of CWSDPMI or even with my having too many copies in the path?

    There is a CWSDPMI inside emacs/bin

    *+-Is emacs/bin on PATH?

    Should be (laptop is packed up)

    What is go32-vw?

    *+-go32-v2 is a program that comes with DJGPP. Do you have djdev205.zip *+-installed? If not, I suggest to install it.

    Thanks

    Again much obliged

    Not just for now, but for the past twenty five years of your helpfulness

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  • From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 16:03:06 2023
    djdev not in
    http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/

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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 19:57:00 2023
    Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2023 18:55:26 +0300
    From: "Eli Zaretskii (eliz@gnu.org) [via djgpp@delorie.com]" <djgpp@delorie.com>

    should look at your autoexec.nt and config.nt files for solutions.

    Sorry, I forgot you were on plain DOS. There, the names of these
    files are autoexec.bat and config.sys, respectively. Look there for memory-related settings.

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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 3 19:52:13 2023
    From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
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    djdev not in
    http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/

    Because it isn't GNU. You will find it in current/v2/ instead.

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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co on Mon Jul 3 18:21:50 2023
    On 2023-07-03 18:03, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
    djdev not in
    http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/

    You'll find it here:
    http://www.delorie.com/pub/djgpp/current/v2/

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  • From vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.co@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 10 22:54:20 2023
    Starting to believe I have too many copies of CWSDMPI

    (Been having trouble accessing CDROM and USB from DOS
    and wifi from XP but caelinus ubuntu works great;
    triple boot DOS6+XP32+CAELINUX Vostro 3560
    had to shut off UEFI and AHCI to set up;
    Packed NYC house; moving uspate tonight; laptop with me)

    GO32

    go32/v2 version 2.0 built Oct 18 2015 09:41:08
    Usage: go32 coff-image [args]
    Rename this to go32.exe only if you need a go32 that can run v2 binaries as
    well as v1 binaries (old makefiles). Put ahead of the old go32 in your PATH
    but do not delete your old go32 - leave it in the PATH after this one.
    Set GO32_V2_DEBUG=y in the environment to get verbose output.

    DPMI memory available: 523783 Kb
    DPMI swap space available: 129849 Kb

    AUTOEXEC

    @echo off
    rem no drivers found? path?
    C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /L:D /M:10
    rem C:\DOS\MOUSE.EXE
    rem C:\DOS\CWSDPMI.EXE -p
    PATH=C:\;C:\DOS\;C:\VASYS\;C:\EMACS\BIN\;C:\WORK\
    SET USER=VJP2
    SET HOME=C:\WORK
    c:\vasys\dosed -e -i -l -s
    swchar -
    cd\work
    c:\vasys\clr blue cyan green
    set dircmd=/o:n/a/p
    prompt vjp2:$e[0;34;46m$p$g
    echo

    CONFIG

    rem DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
    FILES=80
    BUFFERS=40,0
    DEVICE=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
    DEVICE=C:\DOS\OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001

    rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\USBASPI.SYS
    rem device=c:\dos\NJ32DISK.sys

    rem LASTDRIVE=Z
    BREAK=ON
    rem NUMLOCK=ON



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  • From [via djgpp@delorie.com]" @21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 11 14:30:08 2023
    From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
    Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 22:54:20 -0000 (UTC)
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    Starting to believe I have too many copies of CWSDMPI

    Only the one that's first on PATH matters. Make sure it's the latest
    version.

    go32/v2 version 2.0 built Oct 18 2015 09:41:08
    Usage: go32 coff-image [args]
    Rename this to go32.exe only if you need a go32 that can run v2 binaries as
    well as v1 binaries (old makefiles). Put ahead of the old go32 in your PATH
    but do not delete your old go32 - leave it in the PATH after this one.
    Set GO32_V2_DEBUG=y in the environment to get verbose output.

    DPMI memory available: 523783 Kb
    DPMI swap space available: 129849 Kb

    This should suffice.

    AUTOEXEC

    @echo off
    rem no drivers found? path?
    C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /L:D /M:10

    Try not loading MSCDEX

    CONFIG

    rem DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /testmem:off
    FILES=80
    BUFFERS=40,0
    DEVICE=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
    DEVICE=C:\DOS\OAKCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001

    rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\USBASPI.SYS
    rem device=c:\dos\NJ32DISK.sys

    rem LASTDRIVE=Z
    BREAK=ON
    rem NUMLOCK=ON

    Here, I'm missing

    DOS=HIGH, UMB

    and the line that loads HIMEM should not be commented out, I think.

    Also, perhaps comment out the line that loads OAKCDROM.SYS.

    If that doesn't let you run Emacs, I'm afraid I'm stumped. I don't
    have plain DOS machine anymore, but the DJGPP Emacs runs OK for me on
    Windows XP, FWIW.

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