Doctor Who returns!
The Star Beast - 25th November 2023
Wild Blue Yonder - 2nd December 2023
The Giggle - 9th December 2023
https://twitter.com/disneyplus/status/1717247151565427101?s=46&t=Sy8hlCNbd2sxU-jb6Ljjgw
On 2023-10-25 21:21:13 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Doctor Who returns!
The Star Beast - 25th November 2023
Wild Blue Yonder - 2nd December 2023
The Giggle - 9th December 2023
Being only available on Disney+ outside the UK means the potential
audience has fallen dramatically, so the almighty ratings will plummet compared to the last few years.
Here in New Zealand the Doctor Who holiday season specials used to be
on free-to-air TV channels quickly after the UK airing.
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-25 21:21:13 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Doctor Who returns!
The Star Beast - 25th November 2023
Wild Blue Yonder - 2nd December 2023
The Giggle - 9th December 2023
Being only available on Disney+ outside the UK means the potential
audience has fallen dramatically, so the almighty ratings will plummet
compared to the last few years.
Actually, the 'potential' audience has increased (theoretically) as
Disney+ is available in more countries than the BBC ever sold Doctor Who
to. As people can subscribe to Disney+ in something like 150+ countries.
It's whether people want to pay to watch Doctor Who or not that is the
issue. In the case of fans who were previously watching it on free TV >channels I suspect that the answer might be not. Although in any country >there will be an inbuilt audience of people who already have
subscriptions to Disney+ for other things...
Here in New Zealand the Doctor Who holiday season specials used to be
on free-to-air TV channels quickly after the UK airing.
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the revenue
from overseas free-to-air channels?
On 2023-10-25 22:48:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the
revenue from overseas free-to-air channels?
It only makes money for the BBC because they get a huge lump sum paid up-front by Disney, rather than a trickle each year from selling it to regular TV networks. In the long run the show will lose out, especially
if Disney isn't impressed with the almighty ratings and decides to drop
out again. By then all those people who didn't pay for Disney+ will be
less likely to bother tuning in again on free-to-air TV because they've missed a season(s).
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-25 21:21:13 +0000, Blueshirt said:
Doctor Who returns!
The Star Beast - 25th November 2023
Wild Blue Yonder - 2nd December 2023
The Giggle - 9th December 2023
Being only available on Disney+ outside the UK means the potential
audience has fallen dramatically, so the almighty ratings will plummet
compared to the last few years.
Actually, the 'potential' audience has increased (theoretically) as
Disney+ is available in more countries than the BBC ever sold Doctor Who
to. As people can subscribe to Disney+ in something like 150+ countries.
It's whether people want to pay to watch Doctor Who or not that is the
issue. In the case of fans who were previously watching it on free TV channels I suspect that the answer might be not. Although in any country there will be an inbuilt audience of people who already have
subscriptions to Disney+ for other things...
Here in New Zealand the Doctor Who holiday season specials used to be
on free-to-air TV channels quickly after the UK airing.
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the revenue
from overseas free-to-air channels?
In article <xn0o8iqc41l5yqt000@reader.xsnews.nl>,
Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
BungleBob wrote:
Being only available on Disney+ outside the UK means the potential
audience has fallen dramatically, so the almighty ratings will
plummet compared to the last few years.
Here in New Zealand the Doctor Who holiday season specials used to be
on free-to-air TV channels quickly after the UK airing.
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the
revenue from overseas free-to-air channels?
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-25 22:48:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the
revenue from overseas free-to-air channels?
It only makes money for the BBC because they get a huge lump sum paid
up-front by Disney, rather than a trickle each year from selling it to
regular TV networks. In the long run the show will lose out, especially
if Disney isn't impressed with the almighty ratings and decides to drop
out again. By then all those people who didn't pay for Disney+ will be
less likely to bother tuning in again on free-to-air TV because they've
missed a season(s).
To be honest, I don't know how it's going to go... this is new territory
for Doctor Who. But I assume the BBC, Bad Wolf Studios and the Disney Corporation must see something promising in the deal. So the numbers must
add up somewhere.
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-25 22:48:04 +0000, Blueshirt said:
I'd say it's more a case of what makes more money for the
BBC in the long run... the $$ from the Disney Corporation or the
revenue from overseas free-to-air channels?
It only makes money for the BBC because they get a huge lump sum paid
up-front by Disney, rather than a trickle each year from selling it to
regular TV networks. In the long run the show will lose out, especially
if Disney isn't impressed with the almighty ratings and decides to drop
out again. By then all those people who didn't pay for Disney+ will be
less likely to bother tuning in again on free-to-air TV because they've
missed a season(s).
To be honest, I don't know how it's going to go... this is new territory
for Doctor Who. But I assume the BBC, Bad Wolf Studios and the Disney Corporation must see something promising in the deal. So the numbers must
add up somewhere.
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has 146.7 million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but of course
not all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has 146.7
million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but of course not
all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
On 10/26/2023 11:44 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has
146.7 million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but
of course not all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
Sorry, forgot source...
https://press.disneyplus.com/about
I view any House of Mouse promotional material ... skeptically.
Blueshirt wrote:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has 146.7
million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but of course
not all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
Sorry, forgot source...
https://press.disneyplus.com/about
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has 146.7
million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but of course not
all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
If Disney+ has 146 million subscribers, then for a service that had 0 subscribers three years ago then they ain't doing so bad. The subscriber numbers are falling, which is probably more because of the recent price rises, ad tier and losing the IPL rights in India, among other things.*
* Too many streaming services!
But the number of countries isn't really relevant - it's the number of subscribers, and that is where the figures simply do not make sense for
any franchise to heavily invest in streaming only services.
Too many streaming services!
Too many services and ever-increasing prices are yet more reasons why
fewer people will be bothering to subscribe.
Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 10/26/2023 11:44 AM, Blueshirt wrote:
Blueshirt wrote:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has
146.7 million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but
of course not all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
Sorry, forgot source...
https://press.disneyplus.com/about
I view any House of Mouse promotional material ... skeptically.
Well, cynics could view any organisation's promotional material sceptically... no company talks themselves down! :-)
Blueshirt wrote:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney+, as of this year, is available in 60 countries and has 146.7
million subscribers (and that number was falling) ... but of course
not all of them will be interested in Doctor Who.
Not correct. Disney+ is available in over 150 countries worldwide...
Sorry, forgot source...
https://press.disneyplus.com/about
BungleBob wrote:
But the number of countries isn't really relevant - it's the number of
subscribers, and that is where the figures simply do not make sense for
any franchise to heavily invest in streaming only services.
Well, clearly it's all about subscribers as that's all any of them
want... If they kept their monthly prices lower they might even get it. I don't need Disney+ for Doctor Who as I have BBC1 here, but there's
Netflix, Paramount+, Prime Video, Apple TV+, Now TV (etc.), all out there competing for my money, on top of my Sky subscription for 'normal' TV, so something has to give as nobody can subscribe to them all. You end up subscribing to one service for a month, binge the shows you want to
watch, then cancelling... rinse and repeat with the other services as
needed. So none of the streaming services are getting any true loyalty.
You are only ever a part-time customer!
Too many streaming services!
Too many services and ever-increasing prices are yet more reasons why
fewer people will be bothering to subscribe.
There are way too many competing streaming services. The future will
surely see them whittled down by mergers and takeovers... it's not sustainable at the prices these services are offering.
Disney also needs to release DVDs / Blu-ray sets for shows like the
various Star Wars ones for people who want to keep them.
BungleBob wrote:
Disney also needs to release DVDs / Blu-ray sets for shows like the
various Star Wars ones for people who want to keep them.
They are releasing "The Mandalorian" S1 and S2 on 4K Blu-Ray, as well as "Loki" S1 and "WandaVision" later this year...
The two The Mandalorian sets will definitely be worth it, as that is a
great show. (Maybe S3 doesn't quite match the quality of the first series
but that's a separate discussion!!!)
On 2023-10-27 14:13:57 +0000, Blueshirt said:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney also needs to release DVDs / Blu-ray sets for shows like the various Star Wars ones for people who want to keep them.
They are releasing "The Mandalorian" S1 and S2 on 4K Blu-Ray, as well
as "Loki" S1 and "WandaVision" later this year...
The two The Mandalorian sets will definitely be worth it, as that is a great show. (Maybe S3 doesn't quite match the quality of the first
series but that's a separate discussion!!!)
Unfortunately US only (that I can find so far), but what about those of
us on the other 90% of the planet. :-(
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-27 14:13:57 +0000, Blueshirt said:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney also needs to release DVDs / Blu-ray sets for shows like the
various Star Wars ones for people who want to keep them.
They are releasing "The Mandalorian" S1 and S2 on 4K Blu-Ray, as well
as "Loki" S1 and "WandaVision" later this year...
The two The Mandalorian sets will definitely be worth it, as that is a
great show. (Maybe S3 doesn't quite match the quality of the first
series but that's a separate discussion!!!)
Unfortunately US only (that I can find so far), but what about those of
us on the other 90% of the planet. :-(
Amazon UK definitely have the two "The Mandalorian" 4K UHD steelbooks up
for pre-order ... as I was contemplating pre-ordering them.
I can't speak for the rest of the world though.
On 2023-10-28 11:35:09 +0000, Blueshirt said:
BungleBob wrote:
On 2023-10-27 14:13:57 +0000, Blueshirt said:
BungleBob wrote:
Disney also needs to release DVDs / Blu-ray sets for shows like the
various Star Wars ones for people who want to keep them.
They are releasing "The Mandalorian" S1 and S2 on 4K Blu-Ray, as well
as "Loki" S1 and "WandaVision" later this year...
The two The Mandalorian sets will definitely be worth it, as that is a >>>> great show. (Maybe S3 doesn't quite match the quality of the first
series but that's a separate discussion!!!)
Unfortunately US only (that I can find so far), but what about those of
us on the other 90% of the planet. :-(
Amazon UK definitely have the two "The Mandalorian" 4K UHD steelbooks up
for pre-order ... as I was contemplating pre-ordering them.
I can't speak for the rest of the world though.
I wouldn't put too such stock in what Amazon lists - they often list
stuff that never happens or even pirated rubbish, like this DVD version: <https://www.amazon.co.uk/VORPE-DVD-Mandalorian-Season-Disc/dp/B0B4NMZC37/>
Amazon ceased being a reliable source of products and information long
ago when they changed it from being an online store to being a
open-to-all marketplace where any idiot can sell stuff. :-(
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