• Re: Jan. 6 wasn't an insurrection. It was vigilantism. And more is comi

    From Rent-a-hole Harris@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 21 22:42:56 2024
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    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty — for them — not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. “The tree of liberty must be refreshed
    from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,” Thomas
    Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays’s Rebellion, an uprising
    of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest of taxes imposed by the
    state’s governor to liquidate Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five
    years later, the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis,
    explaining another rebellion, said the South had no choice but to
    “take up arms to vindicate the political rights, the freedom,
    equality, and State sovereignty which were the heritage purchased by
    the blood of our revolutionary sires.”

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such “battle cry of
    freedom” — a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President Biden and
    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an “assault on our democracy,” but “what they mean by ‘our democracy’ is their oligarchy,” the author and journalist Roger Kimball said in a
    September speech at Hillsdale College. The protest against them may
    have become unruly, but it was by no means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he gave.
    Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in “A Necessary Evil,” his
    history of “American distrust of government,” comes in different
    forms. At one end of the spectrum are insurrectionists, who “take
    arms against the government because it is too repressive.” At the
    opposite end are vigilantes, who “take arms to do the government’s
    work because the authorities are not repressive enough.” They become “vigilant,” Wills writes, in times when they believe “the government
    is too slow, indifferent, or lax.”

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American conservatism
    today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals. Kimball is one of
    many who, emancipated by former president Donald Trump, feel
    licensed to lead their own campaigns against the country as it
    becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante’s cry that the government has been hijacked
    to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though they’re in
    the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless, for whom the government’s failure to do enough to look after their interests has
    made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6- vigilantes-insurrection/

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 22 07:55:37 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>,
    remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ? for them ? not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ⤽The tree of liberty must be refreshed
    from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,⤝ Thomas
    Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays?s Rebellion, an uprising
    of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest of taxes imposed by the
    state?s governor to liquidate Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five
    years later, the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis,
    explaining another rebellion, said the South had no choice but to
    ⤽take up arms to vindicate the political rights, the freedom,
    equality, and State sovereignty which were the heritage purchased by
    the blood of our revolutionary sires.⤝

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ⤽battle cry of freedom⤝ ? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an ⤽assault on our democracy,⤝ but ⤽what they mean by ?our democracy? is their oligarchy,⤝ the author and journalist Roger Kimball said in a
    September speech at Hillsdale College. The protest against them may
    have become unruly, but it was by no means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he gave.
    Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ⤽A Necessary Evil,⤝ his
    history of ⤽American distrust of government,⤝ comes in different
    forms. At one end of the spectrum are insurrectionists, who ⤽take
    arms against the government because it is too repressive.⤝ At the
    opposite end are vigilantes, who ⤽take arms to do the government?s
    work because the authorities are not repressive enough.⤝ They become ⤽vigilant,⤝ Wills writes, in times when they believe ⤽the government
    is too slow, indifferent, or lax.⤝

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American conservatism
    today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals. Kimball is one of
    many who, emancipated by former president Donald Trump, feel
    licensed to lead their own campaigns against the country as it
    becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante?s cry that the government has been hijacked
    to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though they?re in
    the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless, for whom the government?s failure to do enough to look after their interests has
    made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6- vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Jan 22 15:49:47 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in news:MPG.40182fd177ed950a990ef0@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>, remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ? for them ?
    not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ⤽The tree of liberty must be refreshed
    from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,⤝ Thomas
    Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays?s Rebellion, an uprising
    of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest of taxes imposed by the
    state?s governor to liquidate Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five
    years later, the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis,
    explaining another rebellion, said the South had no choice but to
    ⤽take up arms to vindicate the political rights, the freedom,
    equality, and State sovereignty which were the heritage purchased by
    the blood of our revolutionary sires.⤝

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ⤽battle cry of
    freedom⤝ ? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President Biden
    and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an ⤽assault on
    our democracy,⤝ but ⤽what they mean by ?our democracy? is
    their oligarchy,⤝ the author and journalist Roger Kimball said in a
    September speech at Hillsdale College. The protest against them may
    have become unruly, but it was by no means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he gave.
    Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ⤽A Necessary Evil,⤝ his
    history of ⤽American distrust of government,⤝ comes in different
    forms. At one end of the spectrum are insurrectionists, who ⤽take
    arms against the government because it is too repressive.⤝ At the
    opposite end are vigilantes, who ⤽take arms to do the
    government?s work because the authorities are not repressive
    enough.⤝ They become ⤽vigilant,⤝ Wills writes, in times when
    they believe ⤽the government is too slow, indifferent, or lax.⤝

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American conservatism
    today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals. Kimball is one of
    many who, emancipated by former president Donald Trump, feel
    licensed to lead their own campaigns against the country as it
    becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante?s cry that the government has been hijacked
    to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though they?re in
    the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless, for whom the
    government?s failure to do enough to look after their interests has
    made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6-
    vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.


    Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

    While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6,
    2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two
    blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the worlds
    largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

    We will be blocking access to your building to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole, read the insurrectionists
    letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald
    before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folgers
    online archive.

    The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile
    blockade surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has
    underground tunnels to including the John Adams Building of the
    Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

    This is nothing personal to the library itself, the letter continued.
    We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering
    your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you we are simply citizens practicing our
    1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance.

    Read more : [link:https://wapo.st/3SsDGRd|

    At the very least this letter PROVES that 6Jan was not "spontaneous".
    Well planned in fact.

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 22 09:09:25 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    In article <uom2qq$phl5$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in news:MPG.40182fd177ed950a990ef0@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>, remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ?? for them ??
    not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ??The tree of liberty must be refreshed
    from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,? Thomas
    Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays??s Rebellion, an uprising
    of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest of taxes imposed by the
    state??s governor to liquidate Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five
    years later, the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis,
    explaining another rebellion, said the South had no choice but to
    ??take up arms to vindicate the political rights, the freedom,
    equality, and State sovereignty which were the heritage purchased by
    the blood of our revolutionary sires.?

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ??battle cry of
    freedom? ?? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President Biden
    and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an ??assault on
    our democracy,? but ??what they mean by ??our democracy?? is
    their oligarchy,? the author and journalist Roger Kimball said in a
    September speech at Hillsdale College. The protest against them may
    have become unruly, but it was by no means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he gave.
    Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ??A Necessary Evil,? his
    history of ??American distrust of government,? comes in different
    forms. At one end of the spectrum are insurrectionists, who ??take
    arms against the government because it is too repressive.? At the
    opposite end are vigilantes, who ??take arms to do the
    government??s work because the authorities are not repressive
    enough.? They become ??vigilant,? Wills writes, in times when
    they believe ??the government is too slow, indifferent, or lax.?

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American conservatism
    today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals. Kimball is one of
    many who, emancipated by former president Donald Trump, feel
    licensed to lead their own campaigns against the country as it
    becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante??s cry that the government has been hijacked
    to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though they??re in
    the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless, for whom the
    government??s failure to do enough to look after their interests has
    made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6-
    vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.


    Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

    While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two
    blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the world?s
    largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

    ?We will be blocking access to your building ? to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole,? read the insurrectionists?
    letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald
    before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folger?s
    online archive.

    The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile blockade ?surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has
    underground tunnels to? ? including the John Adams Building of the
    Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block ? presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

    ?This is nothing personal to the library itself,? the letter continued.
    ?We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering
    your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you ? we are simply citizens practicing our
    1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance.?

    Read more : [link:https://wapo.st/3SsDGRd|

    At the very least this letter PROVES that 6Jan was not "spontaneous".
    Well planned in fact.

    Prove nothing but a protest gone bad.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Mon Jan 22 19:33:19 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in news:MPG.40184124261dbf19990f1d@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <uom2qq$phl5$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in
    news:MPG.40182fd177ed950a990ef0@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>,
    remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ?? for them ??
    not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ??The tree of liberty must be
    refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and
    tyrants,? Thomas Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays??s
    Rebellion, an uprising of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest
    of taxes imposed by the state??s governor to liquidate
    Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five years later, the president of
    the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, explaining another rebellion,
    said the South had no choice but to ??take up arms to vindicate
    the political rights, the freedom, equality, and State sovereignty
    which were the heritage purchased by the blood of our
    revolutionary sires.?

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ??battle cry
    of freedom? ?? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President
    Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an
    ??assault on our democracy,? but ??what they mean by ??our
    democracy?? is their oligarchy,? the author and journalist
    Roger Kimball said in a September speech at Hillsdale College. The
    protest against them may have become unruly, but it was by no
    means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he
    gave. Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ??A Necessary
    Evil,? his history of ??American distrust of government,?
    comes in different forms. At one end of the spectrum are
    insurrectionists, who ??take arms against the government because
    it is too repressive.? At the opposite end are vigilantes, who
    ??take arms to do the government??s work because the authorities
    are not repressive enough.? They become ??vigilant,? Wills
    writes, in times when they believe ??the government is too slow,
    indifferent, or lax.?

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American
    conservatism today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals.
    Kimball is one of many who, emancipated by former president Donald
    Trump, feel licensed to lead their own campaigns against the
    country as it becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante??s cry that the government has been
    hijacked to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though
    they??re in the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless,
    for whom the government??s failure to do enough to look after
    their interests has made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6-
    vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.


    Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare
    Library

    While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on
    Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an
    institution two blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare
    Library, the world?s largest collection of material related to the
    English playwright.

    ?We will be blocking access to your building ? to prevent our persons
    of grievance from using you as a loophole,? read the
    insurrectionists? letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message
    board called TheDonald before the insurrection and was published this
    month in the Folger?s online archive.

    The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a
    2.4-mile blockade ?surrounding all buildings to which the U.S.
    Capitol has underground tunnels to? ? including the John Adams
    Building of the Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a
    block ? presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping
    through the buildings.

    ?This is nothing personal to the library itself,? the letter
    continued. ?We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or
    otherwise altering your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize
    in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you ? we are simply
    citizens practicing our 1st amendment rights and are only involving
    you by happenstance.?

    Read more : [link:https://wapo.st/3SsDGRd|

    At the very least this letter PROVES that 6Jan was not "spontaneous".
    Well planned in fact.

    Prove nothing but a protest gone bad.


    It was not a "protest gone bad", it was pre-planned violence against the established government and against the Constitution.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jan 22 15:49:07 2024
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, or.politics, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uom2qq$phl5$5@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in news:MPG.40182fd177ed950a990ef0@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>,
    remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ? for them ?
    not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ⤽The tree of liberty must be refreshed
    from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants,⤝ Thomas
    Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays?s Rebellion, an uprising
    of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest of taxes imposed by the
    state?s governor to liquidate Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five
    years later, the president of the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis,
    explaining another rebellion, said the South had no choice but to
    ⤽take up arms to vindicate the political rights, the freedom,
    equality, and State sovereignty which were the heritage purchased by
    the blood of our revolutionary sires.⤝

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ⤽battle cry of
    freedom⤝ ? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President Biden
    and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an ⤽assault on
    our democracy,⤝ but ⤽what they mean by ?our democracy? is
    their oligarchy,⤝ the author and journalist Roger Kimball said in a
    September speech at Hillsdale College. The protest against them may
    have become unruly, but it was by no means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he gave.
    Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ⤽A Necessary Evil,⤝ his
    history of ⤽American distrust of government,⤝ comes in different
    forms. At one end of the spectrum are insurrectionists, who ⤽take
    arms against the government because it is too repressive.⤝ At the
    opposite end are vigilantes, who ⤽take arms to do the
    government?s work because the authorities are not repressive
    enough.⤝ They become ⤽vigilant,⤝ Wills writes, in times when
    they believe ⤽the government is too slow, indifferent, or lax.⤝

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American conservatism
    today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals. Kimball is one of
    many who, emancipated by former president Donald Trump, feel
    licensed to lead their own campaigns against the country as it
    becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante?s cry that the government has been hijacked
    to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though they?re in
    the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless, for whom the
    government?s failure to do enough to look after their interests has
    made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6-
    vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.


    Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare Library

    While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an institution two
    blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare Library, the world's
    largest collection of material related to the English playwright.

    "We will be blocking access to your building . to prevent our persons of grievance from using you as a loophole," read the insurrectionists'
    letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message board called TheDonald
    before the insurrection and was published this month in the Folger's
    online archive.

    The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a 2.4-mile blockade "surrounding all buildings to which the U.S. Capitol has
    underground tunnels to" - including the John Adams Building of the
    Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a block - presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping through the buildings.

    "This is nothing personal to the library itself," the letter continued.
    "We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or otherwise altering
    your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you . we are simply citizens practicing our
    1st amendment rights and are only involving you by happenstance."

    Read more : [link:https://wapo.st/3SsDGRd|

    At the very least this letter PROVES that 6Jan was not "spontaneous".
    Well planned in fact.


    Hmmm. I was unaware that exercising your 1st Amendment rights was
    insurrection much less a crime....

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  • From Matt Singer@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 22 12:59:55 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    On 1/22/2024 6:55 AM, Skeeter-Shit Jack-Off Shit-4-Braincell, convicted child molester and another fucking do-nothing, lied:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>, remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such “battle cry of
    freedom” � a patriotic exercise against tyranny.

    It wasn't, and fuck whatever the insurrectionists believe.


    No insurrection.

    It was, of course, an insurrection, and if you knuckle-dragging fat fucks try another, you're going to be mowed down.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Scout@21:1/5 to Baxter on Mon Jan 22 15:50:25 2024
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    XPost: talk.politics.guns, alt.atheism

    "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message news:uomftu$s640$2@dont-email.me...
    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in news:MPG.40184124261dbf19990f1d@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <uom2qq$phl5$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
    says...

    Skeeter <Skeeterweed@proton.me> wrote in
    news:MPG.40182fd177ed950a990ef0@usnews.blocknews.net:

    In article <20240121.224256.d51f55a9@erienetworks.net>,
    remailer@domain.invalid says...

    In article <uogv6p$3oo8t$1@dont-email.me>

    Trump is in full command of weak people like me.

    The attackers thought they were restoring liberty ?? for them ??
    not subverting democracy

    Internal assaults on American government usually come with the
    promise of greater freedom. ??The tree of liberty must be
    refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and
    tyrants,? Thomas Jefferson wrote. He was referring to Shays??s
    Rebellion, an uprising of 4,000 Massachusetts citizens in protest
    of taxes imposed by the state??s governor to liquidate
    Revolutionary War debt. Seventy-five years later, the president of
    the Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, explaining another rebellion,
    said the South had no choice but to ??take up arms to vindicate
    the political rights, the freedom, equality, and State sovereignty
    which were the heritage purchased by the blood of our
    revolutionary sires.?

    To its participants and their emboldened intellectual allies, the
    Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was another such ??battle cry
    of freedom? ?? a patriotic exercise against tyranny. President
    Biden and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi might deplore this as an
    ??assault on our democracy,? but ??what they mean by ??our
    democracy?? is their oligarchy,? the author and journalist
    Roger Kimball said in a September speech at Hillsdale College. The
    protest against them may have become unruly, but it was by no
    means an insurrection.

    He may be right, though for reasons different from the one he
    gave. Militant protest, as Garry Wills wrote in ??A Necessary
    Evil,? his history of ??American distrust of government,?
    comes in different forms. At one end of the spectrum are
    insurrectionists, who ??take arms against the government because
    it is too repressive.? At the opposite end are vigilantes, who
    ??take arms to do the government??s work because the authorities
    are not repressive enough.? They become ??vigilant,? Wills
    writes, in times when they believe ??the government is too slow,
    indifferent, or lax.?

    Vigilantism seems to be the defining strain of American
    conservatism today, embraced by both the mob and intellectuals.
    Kimball is one of many who, emancipated by former president Donald
    Trump, feel licensed to lead their own campaigns against the
    country as it becomes more egalitarian and inclusive.


    This was the vigilante??s cry that the government has been
    hijacked to thwart the will of Trump and his supporters. Though
    they??re in the minority, there are many millions, nevertheless,
    for whom the government??s failure to do enough to look after
    their interests has made it the enemy.

    For them, the battle cry of freedom has become, as it was for
    Jefferson Davis, a demand for repression. And only vigilantism,
    storming the citadel, will do the job.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/12/10/january-6-
    vigilantes-insurrection/

    No insurrection.


    Why Jan. 6 insurrections sent a letter to the Folger Shakespeare
    Library

    While insurrectionists were plotting to storm the U.S. Capitol on
    Jan. 6, 2021, they took time to write and send a letter to an
    institution two blocks from their target: the Folger Shakespeare
    Library, the world?s largest collection of material related to the
    English playwright.

    ?We will be blocking access to your building ? to prevent our persons
    of grievance from using you as a loophole,? read the
    insurrectionists? letter, which circulated on a pro-Trump message
    board called TheDonald before the insurrection and was published this
    month in the Folger?s online archive.

    The letter explained that the insurrectionists would create a
    2.4-mile blockade ?surrounding all buildings to which the U.S.
    Capitol has underground tunnels to? ? including the John Adams
    Building of the Library of Congress, with which the Folger shares a
    block ? presumably to prevent those inside the Capitol from escaping
    through the buildings.

    ?This is nothing personal to the library itself,? the letter
    continued. ?We have no intention of damaging, trespassing, or
    otherwise altering your facility in any way...We sincerely apologize
    in advance to any inconvenience this may cause you ? we are simply
    citizens practicing our 1st amendment rights and are only involving
    you by happenstance.?

    Read more : [link:https://wapo.st/3SsDGRd|

    At the very least this letter PROVES that 6Jan was not "spontaneous".
    Well planned in fact.

    Prove nothing but a protest gone bad.


    It was not a "protest gone bad", it was pre-planned violence against the established government and against the Constitution.

    You mean like that we saw from Antifa and BLM?

    Must admit that is the least violent piece of pre-planned violence I think we've ever seen.

    Hell, we've seen more from sports fans.

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