Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

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Hi Frank,

On 2018-04-02 09:48:09, you wrote to All:

Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

The one that Neil Williams uses seems pretty stable, most of the time... (VER binkd/1.0a-542/Amiga binkp/1.1)

Bye, Wilfred.

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On Monday April 02, 2018, Wilfred Van Velzen said to Frank Linhares...

The one that Neil Williams uses seems pretty stable, most of the
time... (VER binkd/1.0a-542/Amiga binkp/1.1)

Bye, Wilfred.

I have it and it doesn't work in server mode. I have the source for the
latest version and am trying to compile it as we speak, i really have
forgotten alot when it comes to programming on the Amiga. It comes back to
me slowly. I guess that's just old age in general.

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On 04/02/18, Frank Linhares said the following...

Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

Not a once.. I've tried BinkD and AmiBinkD and as soon as any sort of file transfers start to take place it guru's the machine

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On Saturday April 28, 2018, Dave Vandermeer said to Frank Linhares...

On 04/02/18, Frank Linhares said the following...

Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

Not a once.. I've tried BinkD and AmiBinkD and as soon as any sort of
file transfers start to take place it guru's the machine

I gave up as well. I now run BinkD on a Raspberry Pi and connect it to my Amiga via a null modem cable. That and some scripting at both ends make mail flow smoothly.

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On 04/29/18, Frank Linhares said the following...

I gave up as well. I now run BinkD on a Raspberry Pi and connect it to
my Amiga via a null modem cable. That and some scripting at both ends
make mail flow smoothly.

I use linux binkd then transfer the packets to amiga side with sftp script. I now run linux full time on my main machine so trying to find a proper working amiga emulator that supports bsdsocket.library v2.0 .. the current UAE/E-UAE only supports v1.0 so we can't use telnetd.device

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Question is, has anyone got this to work on an Emulated Amiga?

Gary McCulloch
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In a message dated 29-Apr-46 01:22:22, Frank Linhares wrote:

I gave up as well. I now run BinkD on a Raspberry Pi and connect it to my Amiga via a null modem cable. That and some scripting at both ends make mail flow smoothly.

I came up with a simple solution, since I run an emulator, I just setup a win32
version of binkd, set it to use amiga style outbound (aso) then used a path translation to translate amiga path -> windows path .. 2 lines and everything works great

aso
ftrans "Xenolink:Out/" "c:\\WinUAE\\IDBBS\\Xenolink\\Out\\"

it picks up the files, renames them to standard FTSC naming and bob's your uncle.. took me a bit of tinkering to get things to work with multiple networks
since amiga outbound is nowhere near binkley or frontdoor

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Hello Dave!

11 Jul 18 19:08, you wrote to Frank Linhares:

I gave up as well. I now run BinkD on a Raspberry Pi and connect
it to my Amiga via a null modem cable. That and some scripting at
both ends make mail flow smoothly.

I came up with a simple solution, since I run an emulator, I just
setup a win32 version of binkd, set it to use amiga style outbound
(aso) then used a path translation to translate amiga path -> windows
path .. 2 lines and everything works great

I'm looking for a similar solution: running the tosser on my Amiga behind binkd on Linux.
But instead using some sftp/scp or whatever I'm thinking about using some NFS or SMB share between Amiga and Linux for inbound/outbound.

Does anyone have experience with this kind of setup? Are there some pitfalls to expect?

Ingo


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On Mon 2-Apr-2018 9:48a, Frank Linhares@39:905/0.0 wrote:

2.1.0.18-B20170815
Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

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Why bother? I got AmiBinkd to work on the Amiga. I made a post about it in AMY_MAIL.

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Hello Dave!

11 Jul 18 19:08, you wrote to Frank Linhares:

I gave up as well. I now run BinkD on a Raspberry Pi and connect
it to my Amiga via a null modem cable. That and some scripting at
both ends make mail flow smoothly.

I came up with a simple solution, since I run an emulator, I just
setup a win32 version of binkd, set it to use amiga style outbound
(aso) then used a path translation to translate amiga path -> windows
path .. 2 lines and everything works great

I'm looking for a similar solution: running the tosser on my Amiga
behind binkd on Linux.
But instead using some sftp/scp or whatever I'm thinking about using
some NFS or SMB share between Amiga and Linux for inbound/outbound.

Does anyone have experience with this kind of setup? Are there some pitfalls to expect?

Here's how I do it, and it works really well.

On a virtualized Linux machine (Ubuntu) I run Binkd and Crashmail II (check Github...). Binkd is the mailer and Crashmail II is the tosser. I handle all the mailing/storing/tossing stuff on that Linux machine and then offer that to the Amiga 2000 running my BBS via NFS. My BBS then has a scripts that imports and exports all messages in the MSG format from/to the Linux machine.

Do note this: The Amiga (or at least my BBS software) read and wrote 16 bit values in the .MSG files in the big endian format which works fine with tossers running on the Amiga. Crashmail II on x86 and Linux uses the little endian format which caused outgoing mail never to be found by the tosser. The developer of my BBS software fixed this - I'm unure if this is an issue with all Amiga based software packages. The same problem arose when I tried to use the Crashmail tosser on the Amiga and then send the packages to the Linux machine where Binkd runs.

(sorry for late reply, etc).


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On 11 Aug 2019, Joacim Melin said the following...

Here's how I do it, and it works really well.

On a virtualized Linux machine (Ubuntu) I run Binkd and Crashmail II (check Github...). Binkd is the mailer and Crashmail II is the tosser. I handle all the mailing/storing/tossing stuff on that Linux machine and then offer that to the Amiga 2000 running my BBS via NFS. My BBS then
has a scripts that imports and exports all messages in the MSG format from/to the Linux machine.

Do note this: The Amiga (or at least my BBS software) read and wrote 16 bit values in the .MSG files in the big endian format which works fine with tossers running on the Amiga. Crashmail II on x86 and Linux uses
the little endian format which caused outgoing mail never to be found by the tosser. The developer of my BBS software fixed this - I'm unure if this is an issue with all Amiga based software packages. The same
problem arose when I tried to use the Crashmail tosser on the Amiga and then send the packages to the Linux machine where Binkd runs.

(sorry for late reply, etc).

Here is another way.. I although run my CNet Amiga system in WinUAE it can be done the same way with real hardware. I run BinkD in Windows, When files come in a cron event on the Amiga side copies the files over to a Amiga directory where CNet tosses it all via a script. (If you can share a networked
directory between a PC and the Amiga, you can use that directory then copy
the files straight to the Amiga). After the files are tossed by your BBS program if anything is going out from the BBS you do the same thing via
another script copying the files to the PC directory where BinkD will send
them out.. I have been doing it this way since September of last year and it works flawlessly.. I do have a pdf file available explaining how to set up everything on my Amiga BBS.. If anyone wants the address I will post it..

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On 11 Aug 2019, Al DeRosa said the following...

since September of last year and it works flawlessly.. I do have a pdf file available explaining how to set up everything on my Amiga BBS.. If anyone wants the address I will post it..

Al, I'd love to have a look at your instructions. I've been trying to do this for ages. Thanks man. :-)

Mick Manning

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On 11 Aug 2019, Mickey said the following...

Al, I'd love to have a look at your instructions. I've been trying to do this for ages. Thanks man. :-)

Mick Manning

Hi Mick, I have the pdf file available on my Amiga BBS it is called NetworkSetup.pdf and it's in my AmigaBBS section. I am pretty sure new users can access it right away but if not I usually have access given within a few hours time. Unless it is in the middle of the night.. Hopefully, it's not against the rules to post the bbs info. wn2.duckdns.org:6400

Let me know if you have problems finding it...

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On Mon 2-Apr-2018 9:48a, Frank Linhares@39:905/0.0 wrote:

2.1.0.18-B20170815
Has anyone ever gotten binkd to succesfully work on the Amiga?

I know Bucko at the Wrong Number BBS has got BinkD to run on the PC side of an emulated Amiga. I and Future World II both use AmiBinkD. So it depends on what route you would like to go.

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I know Bucko at the Wrong Number BBS has got BinkD to run on the PC side of an emulated Amiga. I and Future World II both use AmiBinkD. So it depends on what route you would like to go.

I was referring to compiling a much more recent version of BinkD.

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On 13 Aug 2019, Al DeRosa said the following...

Hi Mick, I have the pdf file available on my Amiga BBS it is called NetworkSetup.pdf and it's in my AmigaBBS section. I am pretty sure new users can access it right away but if not I usually have access given

Thanks Al. I'll drop in and see if I can grab it. Cheers!

Mick

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