Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:45:57 +1000, faeychild wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
Well, run top or htop to get a feel of what is going on.
On 9/4/20 4:59 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 16:45:57 +1000, faeychild wrote:Htop is how I discovered it.
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time. >>>
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
Well, run top or htop to get a feel of what is going on.
I ran killall plasmashell and then plasmashell and monitored the gradual increase on htop.
From that point I don't know what to look for
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
On 2020-04-09, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that Plasma shell CPU usage increases over
time.
Mine started at 3%
It's now at 46% with the desktop idle .
Eventually it goes beyond 100% and starts to impact other programs
What is plasma shell?
Next step would be to look through xsession-errors file. I have no idea
where it is now on plasma.
Go ahead and try "locate -i xsession-errors" and glance at those.
looking like an animation in task bar might be causing it. Putting
linux plasmashell cpu
in the first box at https://www.google.com/advanced_search
I really do like xfce. :)
On 2020-04-09, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Note the 0% CPU and the 37 days elapsed time
So there is some peculiarity on your system
Indeed !! and now it will annoy me
How much time? One hour? Two? Ten? 24? 3 days? A week?
I haven't seen anything like that, but then I tend to power down if I'm
not going to be using the system for a few hours.
It's a habit I picked up when I was using a 21-inch CRT monitor that
sucked power when running. Even now, when it uses far less power, I find waiting less than a minute for my system to power up is less annoying
than paying the power company to keep it running when it's not being used.
TJ
On 9/4/20 8:37 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
Next step would be to look through xsession-errors file. I have no idea
where it is now on plasma.
Go ahead and try "locate -i xsession-errors" and glance at those.
[root@unimatrix ~]# locate -i xsession-errors
[root@unimatrix ~]#
nothing as user and nothing as root
Has xsession been deprecated? I remember that it used to be around with Xauthority
looking like an animation in task bar might be causing it. Putting
linux plasmashell cpu
in the first box at https://www.google.com/advanced_search
Yes. It seems to be a problem.
One post claims to have solved it by
"cleanup the /home/user/.config directory"
which is not useful
That was exactly my thought when I discovered this :-)
I really do like xfce. :)
I believe that it is instilled, Bits. Please tell me again how to switch desktops. It's 07:00 here - only just woke up -sans coffee
On 9/4/20 8:37 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
Next step would be to look through xsession-errors file. I have no idea
where it is now on plasma.
Go ahead and try "locate -i xsession-errors" and glance at those.
[root@unimatrix ~]# locate -i xsession-errors
[root@unimatrix ~]#
nothing as user and nothing as root
Has xsession been deprecated? I remember that it used to be around with Xauthority
looking like an animation in task bar might be causing it. Putting
linux plasmashell cpu
in the first box at https://www.google.com/advanced_search
Yes. It seems to be a problem.
One post claims to have solved it by
"cleanup the /home/user/.config directory"
which is not useful
That was exactly my thought when I discovered this :-)
I really do like xfce. :)
I believe that it is instilled, Bits. Please tell me again how to switch desktops. It's 07:00 here - only just woke up -sans coffee
regards
On 2020-04-09, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 9/4/20 8:37 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
Next step would be to look through xsession-errors file. I have no idea
where it is now on plasma.
Go ahead and try "locate -i xsession-errors" and glance at those.
[root@unimatrix ~]# locate -i xsession-errors
[root@unimatrix ~]#
nothing as user and nothing as root
Has xsession been deprecated? I remember that it used to be around with
Xauthority
Try
.xsession-errors
in your home directory. (or do locate xsession)
You might want to try a test account just to make sure it is a system
wide problem.
when you boot, you are normally at the gui login screen. Depending on
the Display Manager (DM), somewhere on that screen is an icon you can click to change Display Environment for user.
On 10/4/20 10:02 am, William Unruh wrote:
On 2020-04-09, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 9/4/20 8:37 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
Next step would be to look through xsession-errors file. I have no idea >>>> where it is now on plasma.
Go ahead and try "locate -i xsession-errors" and glance at those.
[root@unimatrix ~]# locate -i xsession-errors
[root@unimatrix ~]#
nothing as user and nothing as root
Has xsession been deprecated? I remember that it used to be around with >>> Xauthority
Try
.xsession-errors
in your home directory. (or do locate xsession)
It used to be. And visible with hidden files enabled.
Next to .Xauthority
[faeychild@unimatrix ~]$ locate -i .xsession-errors
[faeychild@unimatrix ~]$
It has gone.
ls .xsession-errors
when you boot, you are normally at the gui login screen. Depending on
the Display Manager (DM), somewhere on that screen is an icon you can click to change Display Environment for user.
On 10/4/20 8:29 am, Bit Twister wrote:
It's RSIBreak.
As you suggested - an animated icon on the taskbar
regards
On 10/4/20 8:29 am, Bit Twister wrote:
It's RSIBreak.
As you suggested - an animated icon on the taskbar
regards
On 11/4/20 8:03 am, faeychild wrote:
On 10/4/20 8:29 am, Bit Twister wrote:
It's RSIBreak.
As you suggested - an animated icon on the taskbar
regards
And the "Notifications" animation in the taskbar does it also.
This is going to be drag.
On 2020-04-10, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 11/4/20 8:03 am, faeychild wrote:
On 10/4/20 8:29 am, Bit Twister wrote:
It's RSIBreak.
As you suggested - an animated icon on the taskbar
regards
And the "Notifications" animation in the taskbar does it also.
What Notifications? Do you mean the little circled "i" icon? How does it animate?
On 10/4/20 12:54 am, TJ wrote:
How much time? One hour? Two? Ten? 24? 3 days? A week?
I haven't seen anything like that, but then I tend to power down if
I'm not going to be using the system for a few hours.
It's a habit I picked up when I was using a 21-inch CRT monitor that
sucked power when running. Even now, when it uses far less power, I
find waiting less than a minute for my system to power up is less
annoying than paying the power company to keep it running when it's
not being used.
TJ
Over the day it creeps up.
I shut down at night also
I have fond memories of my 21-inch trinitron monitor and the fork lift I moved it around with. :-)
Boy would I ever find that annoying. Never mind the cpu leakage, but
having something moving on the screen when I am not doing anything is rediculous. congratulations for finding it.
regards
This system has been running for at least 10 hours, and with Thunderbird running at the moment KSysGuard is reporting all four cores running at less than 2%, except for a regular spike of one or another to 6% for
some sort of network maintenance.
TJ
On 11/4/20 9:57 am, TJ wrote:
This system has been running for at least 10 hours, and with
Thunderbird running at the moment KSysGuard is reporting all four
cores running at less than 2%, except for a regular spike of one or
another to 6% for some sort of network maintenance.
TJ
Unless the notification icon on your taskbar is running you will have
zero plasmashell usage
On 11/4/20 9:16 am, William Unruh wrote:
Boy would I ever find that annoying. Never mind the cpu leakage, but
having something moving on the screen when I am not doing anything is
rediculous. congratulations for finding it.
regards
It's tiny clock face icon that blocks around in quarters.
The notification icon "appears" to spin
Plasma shell is sitting on 93% CPU.
If I kill the video render in Kdenlive the usage falls to zero.
Are you shutting down Kdenlive when you aren't using it, or are you just closing the window? If the latter, I'd say that's probably your culprit.
TJ
Are you shutting down Kdenlive when you aren't using it, or are you just closing the window? If the latter, I'd say that's probably your culprit.
TJ
On 11/4/20 4:44 pm, faeychild wrote:
If the notification widget is placed on the desktop instead of the
taskbar it still behaves the same way and causes Plasmashell to
increasingly thrash the CPU.
It is the way it is
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 02:55:22 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org>wrote:
usesOn 11/4/20 4:44 pm, faeychild wrote:
If the notification widget is placed on the desktop instead of the
taskbar it still behaves the same way and causes Plasmashell to
increasingly thrash the CPU.
It is the way it is
Yet it has no such impact here, so it isn't the notification widget causing the thrashing, but something else on that system, possibly something that
the widget. Something which is not present on a default task-plasma-minimal installation.
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:09:52 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 02:55:22 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 11/4/20 4:44 pm, faeychild wrote:
If the notification widget is placed on the desktop instead of the
taskbar it still behaves the same way and causes Plasmashell to
increasingly thrash the CPU.
It is the way it is
Yet it has no such impact here, so it isn't the notification widget causing >> the thrashing, but something else on that system, possibly something that uses
the widget. Something which is not present on a default task-plasma-minimal >> installation.
If you are testing Plasma DE to see if you can re-create the problem,
What Display Manager are you using?
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:13:57 -0400, Bit Twister<BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
startkde"On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:09:52 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 02:55:22 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 11/4/20 4:44 pm, faeychild wrote:
If the notification widget is placed on the desktop instead of the
taskbar it still behaves the same way and causes Plasmashell to
increasingly thrash the CPU.
It is the way it is
Yet it has no such impact here, so it isn't the notification widget causing
the thrashing, but something else on that system, possibly something that uses
the widget. Something which is not present on a default task-plasma-minimal
installation.
If you are testing Plasma DE to see if you can re-create the problem,
What Display Manager are you using?
None on my primary system, which boots to run level 3. I use "startx
to start plasma, or the appropriate start command of whichever de I'm using at that time. I have all of the Mageia desktop environments installed onthat
system.are
$ ll /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop|wc -l
32
On a second system I use lxdm, and on a 3rd, sddm. None of those 3 systems
showing the cpu thrashing.
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:27:35 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:13:57 -0400, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 03:09:52 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 02:55:22 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 11/4/20 4:44 pm, faeychild wrote:
If the notification widget is placed on the desktop instead of the
taskbar it still behaves the same way and causes Plasmashell to
increasingly thrash the CPU.
It is the way it is
Yet it has no such impact here, so it isn't the notification widget causing
the thrashing, but something else on that system, possibly something that uses
the widget. Something which is not present on a default task-plasma-minimal
installation.
If you are testing Plasma DE to see if you can re-create the problem,
What Display Manager are you using?
None on my primary system, which boots to run level 3. I use "startx startkde"
to start plasma, or the appropriate start command of whichever de I'm using >> at that time. I have all of the Mageia desktop environments installed on that
system.
$ ll /usr/share/xsessions/*.desktop|wc -l
32
On a second system I use lxdm, and on a 3rd, sddm. None of those 3 systems are
showing the cpu thrashing.
Hmm, well that sddm system rules out DM if faeychild is using it.
On 11/4/20 11:29 am, TJ wrote:
Are you shutting down Kdenlive when you aren't using it, or are you
just closing the window? If the latter, I'd say that's probably your
culprit.
TJ
I have removed all the events on the notification app and no plasma thrashing. and no app either.
It may restart with the next boot and I may have to google alot.
But we will see.
At faeychild, show us your Display Manager,
systemctl status display-manager.service | grep -E "PID|bin/"
Try this: Go to systemsettings5/Notifications and select "Kdenlive" in
the source file box. Select "Rendering Started." Uncheck the box labeled "Show a message in a popup." If I'm right, this should eliminate having
the animated notifications icon show while Kdenlive is rendering.
PS Had a quick look at xfce when I booted.
It looks quite usable. Importantly it supports multiple desktops.
On 12/4/20 6:26 am, TJ wrote:
=20
=20=20
Try this: Go to systemsettings5/Notifications and select "Kdenlive"
in the source file box. Select "Rendering Started." Uncheck the box
labeled "Show a message in a popup." If I'm right, this should
eliminate having the animated notifications icon show while
Kdenlive is rendering. =20
OK That's interesting I notice a checkbox for "Mark Taskbar Entry".
Not sure what that does but I could test it later.
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 09:22:50 +1000, faeychild wrote:
PS Had a quick look at xfce when I booted.
It looks quite usable. Importantly it supports multiple desktops.
Yup, default is four desktop/workspaces, right click the pager in thetaskbar,
and you can set number of desktops and rows in the taskbar.
I run with eight workspaces with two rows in the taskbar widget.
On 12/4/20 10:09 am, Bit Twister wrote:
I had another look at xfce on the way through this morning
Changed theme--prefer dark
I launched a few programs with a double click. I must find that setting too.
What I do get is an error message
The desktop file "firefox.desktop" is in an insecure location and not
marked as executable.
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:24:05 +1000, faeychild wrote:set
On 12/4/20 10:09 am, Bit Twister wrote:
I had another look at xfce on the way through this morning
Changed theme--prefer dark
I launched a few programs with a double click. I must find that setting too.
xfce4-settings-manager->Desktop->Icons->[x] Single click to activate items
problem.What I do get is an error message
The desktop file "firefox.desktop" is in an insecure location and not
marked as executable.
Insufficient information for troubleshooting.
Taskbar, Menu, Internet, firefox works for me.
$ ls -ld $HOME
drwx------ 15 bittwister bittwister 4096 Apr 12 05:36 /home/bittwister
$ type firefox
firefox is /usr/local/bin/firefox
That is a custom install. I would expect yours to be /usr/bin/firefox
Going to guess you created a desktop launcher for firefox.
I created a launcher (aff), single clicked it, :) and got a pop up.
Pop up has a button to set your ~/Desktop/whatever.desktop execute bit
and a insecure message. I click make it executable and it works without
$ cd ~/Desktop
$ ls -al a*
-rwxrwxr-x 1 bittwister bittwister 135 Apr 12 18:43 aff.desktop
The error message said that firefox.desktop was in an insecure location.
It should be in ~/Desktop. and that directory should not be writable by
all. Otherwise I do not know why it would would issue such a complaint.
I had another look at xfce on the way through this morning
Changed theme--prefer dark
I launched a few programs with a double click. I must find that setting
too.
What I do get is an error message
The desktop file "firefox.desktop" is in an insecure location and not
marked as executable.
I suspect a compatibility problem. Still dinking :-)
On 12.04.2020 at 09:30, faeychild scribbled:
On 12/4/20 6:26 am, TJ wrote:
Try this: Go to systemsettings5/Notifications and select "Kdenlive"
in the source file box. Select "Rendering Started." Uncheck the box
labeled "Show a message in a popup." If I'm right, this should
eliminate having the animated notifications icon show while
Kdenlive is rendering.
OK That's interesting I notice a checkbox for "Mark Taskbar Entry".
Not sure what that does but I could test it later.
What that does is, when Kdenlive is not the active window and it has something to tell you, the task bar entry for that application will be highlighted — usually in blue, I believe, but this may depend on your chosen color scheme.
I suspect a compatibility problem. Still dinking :-)
I've seen that before, when I was comparing Plasma and Xfce on an old
32-bit laptop I was bringing back from the dead to act as a test machine.
It's simple. Xfce doesn't trust desktop launchers that were created by
other DE's, that's all.
TJ
Actual pop up message islaunch.
Untrusted application launcher
The desktop file "aff.desktop" is in an insecure location and not marked
as executable. If you do not trust this program, Click Cancel.
Exec=firefox
.-----------------------------------------------.
| Launch Anyway | Mark Executable | Cancel |
`-----------------------------------------------'
After clicking Mark Executable, pop up message no longer comes up upon
On 13/4/20 6:01 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
.-----------------------------------------------.
| Launch Anyway | Mark Executable | Cancel |
`-----------------------------------------------'
After clicking Mark Executable, pop up message no longer comes up upon launch.
Something like that. I'm not sure I get the Mark Executable "option.
You put a bit of work into that ascii art display above Bits :-)
My second brief foray into Xfce this morning was fruitful - a single
click mouse now..
I will miss the edge triggered or scroll wheel desktop selection. I just
have to retrain some muscle memory.
Obviously the Plasmashell thrashing has returned. It seems inconsistent
and not immediately reproducible and will popup sometime after you
think it has gone. I am rendering a video, the notifier icon is
"spinning" and no plasma is showing in Htop -- yet!
Because it didn't seem to be afflicting "junk" in the short term that I checked. A longer test may be done so I could then transfer the "junk"
plasma files to my folder. Maybe that will get around it
regards
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 07:56:45 +1000, faeychild wrote:
On 13/4/20 6:01 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
.-----------------------------------------------.
| Launch Anyway | Mark Executable | Cancel |
`-----------------------------------------------'
After clicking Mark Executable, pop up message no longer comes up upon launch.
Something like that. I'm not sure I get the Mark Executable "option.
Pretty sure it was there. :)
Oh, scroll wheel works, dragging window to left/right edge moves it
to that workspace/desktop.
I suggest you need to get to settings manager and go through all selections. Just a few suggestions '[x]' just in the Window Manager Tweaks section
Tweaks->Cycling_>[_]
Tweaks->Cycling_>[x] Skip windows that have "skip pager"
Tweaks->Cycling_>[x] Include hidden (i.e. iconfified) windows
Tweaks->Cycling_>[ ] Cycle through windows on all workspaces set [x]
Tweaks->Cycling_>[x] Draw frame around selected windows while cycling
Tweaks->Cycling_>[x] Cycle through windows in a list
Tweaks->Focus->
Tweaks->Focus->[x] Activate focus stealing prevention
Tweaks->Focus->[x] Honor standard ICCCM focus hint
Tweaks->Focus->When a window raises itself:
Tweaks->Focus->[ ] Bring window on current workspace
Tweaks->Focus->[ ] Switch to windows's workspace set [x]
Tweaks->Focus->[ ] Do nothing
Tweaks->Accessibility->
Tweaks->Accessibility->Key used to grab and move windows: [Alt]
Tweaks->Accessibility->[x] Rase windows when any mouse button is pressed
Tweaks->Accessibility->[x] Hide frame of wndows when maximizedthe screen edge
Tweaks->Accessibility->[ ] Hide title of windows when maximized
Tweaks->Accessibility->[x] Automatically title windows when moving toward
Tweaks->Accessibility->[ ] Use edge resistance instead of window snappingdecoration blink
Tweaks->Accessibility->[ ] Notify of urgency by making windows's
Tweaks->Accessibility->[x] Use mouse wheel on title bar to roll up thewindow
Tweaks->Accessibility->[ ] Keep urgent windows blinking repeatedlyworkspaces
Tweaks->Workspaces->
Tweaks->Workspaces->[x] Use the mouse wheel on the desktop to switch
Tweaks->Workspaces->[ ] Remember and recall previous workspace whenswitching via keyboard shortcuts
Tweaks->Workspaces->[x] Wrap workspaces depending on the actual desktoplayout
Tweaks->Workspaces->[x] Wrap workspaces when the first or the lastworkspace is reached set [x]
Tweaks->Placement->~25%
Tweaks->Placement->Minimum size of windows to trigger smart placement:
Tweaks->Placement->By default, place windows:
Tweaks->Placement->[ ] At the center of the screen unset
Tweaks->Placement->[x] Under the mouse pointer set
On 15/4/20 9:03 am, Bit Twister wrote:
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 07:56:45 +1000, faeychild wrote:
On 13/4/20 6:01 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
.-----------------------------------------------.
| Launch Anyway | Mark Executable | Cancel |
`-----------------------------------------------'
After clicking Mark Executable, pop up message no longer comes up upon launch.
Something like that. I'm not sure I get the Mark Executable "option.
Pretty sure it was there. :)
I have switched to Xfce temporarily after letting an update through and
I don't have the mark executable option. Maybe the result of settings variations
Hide frame of windows when maximized
Hide title of windows when maximized
Does this hide the maximum/minimum and close buttons on the window frame
This morning before the update the plasma shell was pegging 22% with
only Htop running. very annoying
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 19:07:33 -0400, faeychild
<faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
This morning before the update the plasma shell was pegging 22% with
only Htop running. very annoying
In systemsettings5, Workspace, Search, disable File Search, and uncheck
all of
the currently selected plugins in Plasma Search.
The high cpu usage is likely the result of those search utilities
indexing what
is currently on disk, and/or looking for changes.
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