Having had all kinds of stange problems wit Mageia 7.1, including no
panel, I decided to upgrade to Mageia 8. That made no difference. It
turned out that I had to "lock" the panel; as soon as I did that, the
panel worked again.

The schily tools archive was corrupted; extracting it again fixed that.

My remaining problem is with getmail. I use getmail in a cron job to
download POP emails from the server, so that I can view the headers and
delete the unwanted ones. Then I import the remaining ones to claws-mail.

Suddenly, getmail cannot process the mails. The message for each one is:

"Delivery error (mboxrd delivery 16605 error (127, mbox delivery process failed (can't concat str to bytes)))"

This is way over my head. From reading the forums, it can be caused by
a change from Python2 to Python 3, but my version of getmail is built
for Python 3.8, the installed version.

Any suggestions appreciated.

TIA,

Doug,

almost out of lockdown.

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On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 22:36:04 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

Having had all kinds of stange problems wit Mageia 7.1, including no
panel,

It helps to provide the Desktop Environment (DE) on those kinds of problems.

I decided to upgrade to Mageia 8. That made no difference. It
turned out that I had to "lock" the panel; as soon as I did that, the
panel worked again.

I do not see the problem running Xfce as my DE on 7 or 8.

The schily tools archive was corrupted; extracting it again fixed that.

I had never seen that problem and I have a monthly cron job to download
any new release.

My remaining problem is with getmail. I use getmail in a cron job to download POP emails from the server,

My first recommendation is in a test account, use thunderbird to
create an account using the POP gmail server to prove gmail is still allowing POP use.

If so, check the Server Settings against your getmail settings to verify
that they are the same.

so that I can view the headers and
delete the unwanted ones. Then I import the remaining ones to claws-mail.

I can not help you with getmail. I use fetchmail. I have it set to download
all mail, throw it into my Unix/Linux mailbox, and remove from the server for
$ grep thunderbird /etc/passwd | wc -l
6
accounts on my system. One account for each of my accounts on gmail, yahoo, hotmail,....

For any lurkers you create a ~/.fetchmailrc something like
cat ~/.fetchmailrc

# /accounts/fake_name_here

poll "imap.gmail.com" with proto IMAP
user "fake_name_here@gmail.com" there with password "top_secret"
is fake_name_here here
options
ssl # download "seen" and "unseen" messages
fetchall # retrieve old and new messages
stripcr # Strip carriage returns from ends of lines
nokeep # delete new messages after retrieval

#********** end ~fake_name_here/.fetchmailrc ********************

Note: ~/.fetchmailrc perms has to be 600

Snippet from my /local/bin/fetch_mail called from user hourly cron job
_deb_args="--silent"
_serv_timeout_seconds=6

fetchmail --timeout $_serv_timeout_seconds \
$_deb_args > $_err_fn 2>&1

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On 7/12/20 10:36 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

Having had all kinds of stange problems wit Mageia 7.1, including no
panel, I decided to upgrade to Mageia 8.  That made no difference.  It turned out that I had to "lock" the panel; as soon as I did that, the
panel worked again.

The schily tools archive was corrupted; extracting it again fixed that.

My remaining problem is with getmail.  I use getmail in a cron job to download POP emails from the server, so that I can view the headers and delete the unwanted ones.  Then I import the remaining ones to claws-mail.

Suddenly, getmail cannot process the mails.  The message for each one is:

"Delivery error (mboxrd delivery 16605 error (127, mbox delivery process failed (can't concat str to bytes)))"

This is way over my head.  From reading the forums, it can be caused by
a change from Python2 to Python 3, but my version of getmail is built
for Python 3.8, the installed version.

Any suggestions appreciated.

TIA,

Doug,

almost out of lockdown.

Still no further progress on this one, but another clue: Thunderbird
can download mail directly from the ISP.

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On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 02:23:19 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

On 7/12/20 10:36 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

My remaining problem is with getmail.  I use getmail in a cron job to
download POP emails from the server,

Still no further progress on this one, but another clue: Thunderbird
can download mail directly from the ISP.

Yup, guessing you entered the just the email address and TB setup
the Server Settings for a non-pop server and protocol/port/auth type.

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On 8/12/20 2:33 am, Bit Twister wrote:

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 02:23:19 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

On 7/12/20 10:36 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

My remaining problem is with getmail.  I use getmail in a cron job to
download POP emails from the server,

Still no further progress on this one, but another clue: Thunderbird
can download mail directly from the ISP.

Yup, guessing you entered the just the email address and TB setup
the Server Settings for a non-pop server and protocol/port/auth type.

Thanks for the tips. I always had Thunderbird set up for direct emails (default config) but used it only for NNTP. I think the glitch is
somewhere in my home dir, but it doesn't involve anything later than /var/spool/mail. I have deleted and recreated the "doug" mailbox, which
is a file, not a folder. Without checking, I think that the server
setting in TB is POP3.

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On 8/12/20 4:38 am, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

On 8/12/20 2:33 am, Bit Twister wrote:

On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 02:23:19 +1100, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

On 7/12/20 10:36 pm, Doug Laidlaw wrote:

My remaining problem is with getmail.  I use getmail in a cron job to >>>> download POP emails from the server,

Still no further progress on this one, but another clue:  Thunderbird
can download mail directly from the ISP.

Yup, guessing you entered the just the email address and TB setup
the Server Settings for a non-pop server and protocol/port/auth type.

Thanks for the tips.  I always had Thunderbird set up for direct emails (default config) but used it only for NNTP.  I think the glitch is somewhere in my home dir, but it doesn't involve anything later than /var/spool/mail.  I have deleted and recreated the "doug" mailbox, which
is a file, not a folder.  Without checking, I think that the server
setting in TB is POP3.

After a complete reinstall of 8, which fixed every other problem, this
problem remains. Maybe not many use getmail? Will file a bug.

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