J=C3=B6rg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.ling-6214446.html
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For those who can read German: https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020 https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schil=
Forwarded from comp.unix.shell, given that many people here were
replacing the Mageia-supplied cdrkit (Wodim) package with Schily's
original (and much better) cdrtools...
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
For those who can read German:
https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html
On 13/10/21 02:36, Aragorn wrote:
Forwarded from comp.unix.shell, given that many people here were
replacing the Mageia-supplied cdrkit (Wodim) package with Schily's
original (and much better) cdrtools...
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
Jörg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
For those who can read German:
https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Schilling-6214446.html
I never did get around to installing it.
And now CD/DVD are deprecating.
Are all the Linux users "getting on" Are we all ancient?
On 13/10/21 02:36, Aragorn wrote:hilling-6214446.html
Forwarded from comp.unix.shell, given that many people here were
replacing the Mageia-supplied cdrkit (Wodim) package with Schily's
original (and much better) cdrtools...
=20
Christian Weisgerber wrote:
=20
J=C3=B6rg Schilling, aka "schily", has died from cancer.
For those who can read German:
https://twitter.com/FUZxxl/status/1447319844295254020
https://www.heise.de/news/Nachruf-Open-Source-Welt-trauert-um-Joerg-Sc=
=20
I never did get around to installing it.
And now CD/DVD are deprecating.
Are all the Linux users "getting on" Are we all ancient?
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different
world now.
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different
world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep
And if you are not on Facebook, you don't exist.
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
On 15.10.2021 at 07:52, faeychild scribbled:
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different
world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep
And if you are not on Facebook, you don't exist.
Well, I guess I don't exist then. But how do I convince the tax
collectors of that? :p
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and
texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
Yes, welcome to the Smartphone Zombie Apocalypse. :/
On 10/14/21 14:13, Aragorn wrote:
On 15.10.2021 at 07:52, faeychild scribbled:
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different
world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep
And if you are not on Facebook, you don't exist.
Well, I guess I don't exist then. But how do I convince the tax
collectors of that? :p
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and
texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
Yes, welcome to the Smartphone Zombie Apocalypse. :/
(anti)Social Media is going to take down what we have been
foolishly calling civilization but is no more than technological
advances handed over to the true dinosauria, the zombified phone
walkers and thumb exercisers. Maybe they will be carried forward
toward totally synthetic experience and become the button pushers
that people believed would be the course of evolution in the 1950s.
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam
and the West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
On 16/10/21 01:58, Jim wrote:
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam
and the West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
All we need is to discover how the universe came to be and these people
will find themselves looking foolish in the same camp as followers of
Thor, Zeus, Poseidon, Osiris etc.
I would enjoy that!
Followers of Thor and Odin aka the Asatru are in trouble now
over racist discrimination. They believe that skin color is key to religious beliefs.
All the old pantheons are seemingly nothing more than worship
of archetypes embedded in human unconscious. But we will see in due
course of time if the no-fun-dumb-mentalists don't get in the way.
But Jörg Schilling has gone on and doubtless either is not
or else know the truth of all.
bliss - apparently the creation mythos of the various cults are now considered childish.
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 10/14/21 14:13, Aragorn wrote:
On 15.10.2021 at 07:52, faeychild scribbled:(anti)Social Media is going to take down what we have been
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different
world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep And if you are not on
Facebook, you don't exist.
Well, I guess I don't exist then. But how do I convince the tax
collectors of that? :p
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and
texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
Yes, welcome to the Smartphone Zombie Apocalypse. :/
foolishly calling civilization but is no more than technological
advances handed over to the true dinosauria, the zombified phone
walkers and thumb exercisers. Maybe they will be carried forward
toward totally synthetic experience and become the button pushers that
people believed would be the course of evolution in the 1950s.
<snip>
I am less concerned about the effects of technological changes than
about the human psychological propensity to want someone else to bear responsibility for all one's major decisions. That has led to most
people spending their lives subject to tyranny for most of history, and
it looks like one of the few partial exceptions ("Western Civilization")
may be fading.
Islam (Submission) totals about 1.6 billion and increasing. The Koran,
the Hadith, and the clerisy -- mullah upward to caliph or ayatollah --
wield full authority over all Muslims, thus relieving them of thinking
for themselves.
The Muslims continue to regard jihad as the highest form of worship for
Allah and to define it as conversion, slaughter, enslavement, or
political and economic total domination of all non-Muslims, with Heaven
and 72 houris for all who die in the process and absolvement from all
sin for those who engage in it and survive. I consider this a problem.
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the
West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
Marxism and its direct and indirect followers had a setback when the
USSR fell apart, but China is coming on strong and adoption by virtually
all of the radical left in Western societies of some variety of Marxism
or a descendant ideology is increasingly of concern due to gains in the
U.S. in particular.
Marx focused on two premier goals, destruction of religion and
capitalism, and regarded destruction of the family and property rights
as inescapable for that.
I find these to be destructive of a common morality and consequent
harmony among people, as well as destructive of economic motivation and resulting prosperity due to human desire to acquire personal power over others and accumulate material wealth.
The last translates to governmental tyranny by those few able to indulge
in their desires for power over others, or wealth,
or both, imposed on those subject to them. Twentieth Century history
informs of of what that does.
My justification why I am less concerned about technology addressed, I
shall drop this subject from a place where arguably it does not belong.
Cheers!
jim b.
Op Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:58:45 +0000, schreef Jim:
The Muslims continue to regard jihad as the highest form of worship
for Allah and to define it as conversion, slaughter, enslavement, or political and economic total domination of all non-Muslims, with
Heaven and 72 houris for all who die in the process and absolvement
from all sin for those who engage in it and survive. I consider
this a problem.
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and
the West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
Marxism and its direct and indirect followers had a setback when the
USSR fell apart, but China is coming on strong and adoption by
virtually all of the radical left in Western societies of some
variety of Marxism or a descendant ideology is increasingly of
concern due to gains in the U.S. in particular.
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of
Islam and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or
any kind of Protestantism.
Op Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:58:45 +0000, schreef Jim:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 10/14/21 14:13, Aragorn wrote:
On 15.10.2021 at 07:52, faeychild scribbled:(anti)Social Media is going to take down what we have been
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different >>>>>> world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep And if you are not on
Facebook, you don't exist.
Well, I guess I don't exist then. But how do I convince the tax
collectors of that? :p
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and >>>>> texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
Yes, welcome to the Smartphone Zombie Apocalypse. :/
foolishly calling civilization but is no more than technological
advances handed over to the true dinosauria, the zombified phone
walkers and thumb exercisers. Maybe they will be carried forward
toward totally synthetic experience and become the button pushers that
people believed would be the course of evolution in the 1950s.
<snip>
I am less concerned about the effects of technological changes than
about the human psychological propensity to want someone else to bear
responsibility for all one's major decisions. That has led to most
people spending their lives subject to tyranny for most of history, and
it looks like one of the few partial exceptions ("Western Civilization")
may be fading.
Islam (Submission) totals about 1.6 billion and increasing. The Koran,
the Hadith, and the clerisy -- mullah upward to caliph or ayatollah --
wield full authority over all Muslims, thus relieving them of thinking
for themselves.
The Muslims continue to regard jihad as the highest form of worship for
Allah and to define it as conversion, slaughter, enslavement, or
political and economic total domination of all non-Muslims, with Heaven
and 72 houris for all who die in the process and absolvement from all
sin for those who engage in it and survive. I consider this a problem.
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the
West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
Marxism and its direct and indirect followers had a setback when the
USSR fell apart, but China is coming on strong and adoption by virtually
all of the radical left in Western societies of some variety of Marxism
or a descendant ideology is increasingly of concern due to gains in the
U.S. in particular.
Marx focused on two premier goals, destruction of religion and
capitalism, and regarded destruction of the family and property rights
as inescapable for that.
I find these to be destructive of a common morality and consequent
harmony among people, as well as destructive of economic motivation and
resulting prosperity due to human desire to acquire personal power over
others and accumulate material wealth.
The last translates to governmental tyranny by those few able to indulge
in their desires for power over others, or wealth,
or both, imposed on those subject to them. Twentieth Century history
informs of of what that does.
My justification why I am less concerned about technology addressed, I
shall drop this subject from a place where arguably it does not belong.
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of Islam
and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or any kind of Protestantism.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:50:06 +0000, Herman Viaene wrote:
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of
Islam and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of
the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of
them) or any kind of Protestantism.
Should one attack what seems to be the "least-bad" of the major
contingents?
Success in such attack would seem likely to damage all, attacked
and attacker alike.
Of course, "least-bad" may be subject to disputes dependent on one's
existing values. If you think destroying all not like you in some
specific way is the epitome of "good," that would not favor any
variety of Christianity.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 12:50:06 +0000, Herman Viaene wrote:
Op Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:58:45 +0000, schreef Jim:
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:22 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 10/14/21 14:13, Aragorn wrote:
On 15.10.2021 at 07:52, faeychild scribbled:
On 14/10/21 00:38, Aragorn wrote:
So, long story short, yeah, we're all dinosaurs. It's a different >>>>>>> world now.
I believe that you are valued by your "Facebook" "likes". It is
seriously important to be one of the sheep And if you are not on
Facebook, you don't exist.
(anti)Social Media is going to take down what we have been
Well, I guess I don't exist then. But how do I convince the tax
collectors of that? :p
I could not spend my entire day walking around looking at a phone and >>>>>> texting nonsense to shallow buffoons.
Yes, welcome to the Smartphone Zombie Apocalypse. :/
foolishly calling civilization but is no more than technological
advances handed over to the true dinosauria, the zombified phone
walkers and thumb exercisers. Maybe they will be carried forward
toward totally synthetic experience and become the button pushers that >>>> people believed would be the course of evolution in the 1950s.
<snip>
I am less concerned about the effects of technological changes than
about the human psychological propensity to want someone else to bear
responsibility for all one's major decisions. That has led to most
people spending their lives subject to tyranny for most of history, and
it looks like one of the few partial exceptions ("Western Civilization") >>> may be fading.
Islam (Submission) totals about 1.6 billion and increasing. The Koran,
the Hadith, and the clerisy -- mullah upward to caliph or ayatollah --
wield full authority over all Muslims, thus relieving them of thinking
for themselves.
The Muslims continue to regard jihad as the highest form of worship for
Allah and to define it as conversion, slaughter, enslavement, or
political and economic total domination of all non-Muslims, with Heaven
and 72 houris for all who die in the process and absolvement from all
sin for those who engage in it and survive. I consider this a problem.
See Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the
West by Raymond Ibrahim for details if such interest you.
Marxism and its direct and indirect followers had a setback when the
USSR fell apart, but China is coming on strong and adoption by virtually >>> all of the radical left in Western societies of some variety of Marxism
or a descendant ideology is increasingly of concern due to gains in the
U.S. in particular.
Marx focused on two premier goals, destruction of religion and
capitalism, and regarded destruction of the family and property rights
as inescapable for that.
I find these to be destructive of a common morality and consequent
harmony among people, as well as destructive of economic motivation and
resulting prosperity due to human desire to acquire personal power over
others and accumulate material wealth.
The last translates to governmental tyranny by those few able to indulge >>> in their desires for power over others, or wealth,
or both, imposed on those subject to them. Twentieth Century history
informs of of what that does.
My justification why I am less concerned about technology addressed, I
shall drop this subject from a place where arguably it does not belong.
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of Islam
and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian
authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or any kind of
Protestantism.
Should one attack what seems to be the "least-bad" of the major
contingents?
Success in such attack would seem likely to damage all, attacked
and attacker alike.
Of course, "least-bad" may be subject to disputes dependent on one's
existing values. If you think destroying all not like you in some
specific way is the epitome of "good," that would not favor any
variety of Christianity.
Survival and increase in numbers as the highest good would lead
to a different judgment, not necessarily dependent on our
individual or collective conscious goals and values.
Cheers!
jim b.
Mats of Sargassum macroalgae overruns the Caribbean and
culprit of the power outage in Puerto Rico. <https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/12/2057577/-Mats-of-Sargassum-macroalgae-overruns-the-Caribbean-and-culprit-of-the-power-outage-in-Puerto-Rico>
And so our our poisonous stink comes back to us...
Should one attack what seems to be the "least-bad" of the major
contingents?
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of Islam
and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or any kind of Protestantism.
On 16/10/21 23:50, Herman Viaene wrote:=20
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I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of=20
Islam and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of
the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of
them) or any kind of Protestantism. =20
The crusades being the elephant in the room
On 16/10/21 23:50, Herman Viaene wrote:
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of Islam
and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian
authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or any kind of
Protestantism.
The crusades being the elephant in the room
I wouldn't be terribly forgiving about it either
On 17.10.2021 at 22:51, faeychild scribbled:
On 16/10/21 23:50, Herman Viaene wrote:
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of
Islam and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of
the Christian authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of
them) or any kind of Protestantism.
The crusades being the elephant in the room
Don't forget the Spanish Inquisition, with people first being tortured
and then either burned at the stake, quartered by horses, cast into a
river with a millstone tied to their necks, broken on the wheel, or —
if they were lucky — simply beheaded with an ax.
Even now in the 21st century, being an altar boy is a fairly hazardous
way of wasting one's youth.
But hey, you mustn't complain about any of it. After all, "Jesus died
for your sins", you know? ;)
Catholicism : "Shit happens because I deserve it."
Protestanism : "Shit won't happen if I work harder."
7th-Day Adventists : "Shit only happens on Saturdays."
Islam : "Shit happens because of the infidels."
Judaism : "Why is this shit always happening to me?"
Hinduism : "This shit has happened before."
Buddhism : "If shit happens, is it really shit?"
Hare Krishna : "Shit happens, rama lama ding dong!"
Rastafarianism : "Littaz smoke dees sheet, mon!"
:p
On 16/10/21 23:50, Herman Viaene wrote:
I find it strange when people start enumerating the bad sides of Islam
and Marxism, they always forget to list the wrong-doings of the Christian
authorities, be it Catholic (being myself one of them) or any kind of
Protestantism.
The crusades being the elephant in the room
I wouldn't be terribly forgiving about it either
Oh and it continues until now in the USA with the Christianists
screaming about suppression of religion when they are told to
stay within bounds of religion and stay out of politics.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:01:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Oh and it continues until now in the USA with the Christianists
screaming about suppression of religion when they are told to
stay within bounds of religion and stay out of politics.
Amendment I to the U.S. Constitution was intended to keep the
Federal Government's fingers out of religion.
IIRC, at the time it was written and adopted, a majority of
the colonies had an established religion, and absolutely nothing
was being done at the Federal level to affect that. Changes
at the state level did occur, particularly in the early 1800s,
but they did not restrict or discourage participation in
politics by religions entities, just restricted or discouraged
governmental participation in or support for religion by the state.
It was never intended to keep religion out of politics.
Those who think or complain otherwise are simply unaware
of the details of history and desirous of imposing their
opinions on others.
Cheers!
jim b.
On 10/17/21 10:51, Jim wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 08:01:20 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:That has not been the interpretation of several successive
Oh and it continues until now in the USA with the Christianists
screaming about suppression of religion when they are told to
stay within bounds of religion and stay out of politics.
Amendment I to the U.S. Constitution was intended to keep the
Federal Government's fingers out of religion.
IIRC, at the time it was written and adopted, a majority of
the colonies had an established religion, and absolutely nothing
was being done at the Federal level to affect that. Changes
at the state level did occur, particularly in the early 1800s,
but they did not restrict or discourage participation in
politics by religions entities, just restricted or discouraged
governmental participation in or support for religion by the state.
It was never intended to keep religion out of politics.
Those who think or complain otherwise are simply unaware
of the details of history and desirous of imposing their
opinions on others.
Cheers!
jim b.
Supreme Courts in my lifetime and I believe previous to that but,
Jörg Schilling is still dead and while tacking on other subjects
is common enough I doubt he would be encouraged by this.
The religious wars in Europe following the Protestant Reformation and the Catholic counter-reformation is why we don't
ave an established church in this nation. Too much blood shed
and too much disruption of commerce. Could be compared to the
effect of the Black Death. Religion can be a mental plague.
We can avoid religious wars internally, I hope but, since
the Anti-vaccinations, anti-mask movements and rejection of common
public health measures by religious institutions my hope is waning.
bliss - 'Nearly any fool can use a Linux computer. Many do.' After all
here I am...
Your comment above is strong evidence you know little or nothing
of the roles, conflicts, and commonalities of the varieties of
Christian faith in the colonies and the states they became, up
through at least 1800.
This is not a proper forum to address such matters, though, and
I will simply restate that my comment above stands.
Cheers!
jim b.
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