Nowadays, USB sticks are everywhere. They can be used for copyright-protected documents, and most distros (including Windows)
support using them as installation media. There are even predictions
that USB sticks will make CD-drives obsolete. Over a few years, I have collected quite a few.
Advantages: Small size; not scratchable like DVDs; no time wasted (and
no excessive HD wear) hunting around on the DVD looking for the next
step in the installation process.
Disadvantage: There is no convenient storage facility for them, allowing
for easy selection. I keep mine in a plastic box.
I had not heard of Ventoy (https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html)
until I saw it mentioned on a forum in a different context. It goes a
long way towards reducing that last disadvantage. Many Linux distros
are too big to fit on a CD, but don’t fill a DVD. At present, Mageia (4.2 GB) and Knoppix) (about the same) are the biggest ones I have, and
some are CD-size The total is 11.9 GB. Ventoy allows them all (and an .img file) to fit on one 32 GB USB stick, with room for more. Booting
from the stick, an alphabetical list of its contents is shown. Clicking
on the item “boots” from it, and it installs as if it were the only item there. A few minutes ago, I successfully booted Mageia 8 from it. As my confusion increases, it keeps them all in one place. If, unlike me,
you don’t keep many ISOs, you may not need it.
The software is free, and is installed on Partition1 of the stick. That leaves at least 22 GB for storing ISOs. As always, YMMV!
Doug.
On 5/27/22 14:35, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
Nowadays, USB sticks are everywhere. They can be used for
copyright-protected documents, and most distros (including Windows)
support using them as installation media. There are even predictions
that USB sticks will make CD-drives obsolete. Over a few years, I
have collected quite a few.
Advantages: Small size; not scratchable like DVDs; no time wasted (and
no excessive HD wear) hunting around on the DVD looking for the next
step in the installation process.
Disadvantage: There is no convenient storage facility for them,
allowing for easy selection. I keep mine in a plastic box.
I had not heard of Ventoy (https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html)
until I saw it mentioned on a forum in a different context. It goes a
long way towards reducing that last disadvantage. Many Linux distros
are too big to fit on a CD, but don’t fill a DVD. At present, Mageia
(4.2 GB) and Knoppix) (about the same) are the biggest ones I have,
and some are CD-size The total is 11.9 GB. Ventoy allows them all
(and an .img file) to fit on one 32 GB USB stick, with room for more.
Booting from the stick, an alphabetical list of its contents is
shown. Clicking on the item “boots” from it, and it installs as if it >> were the only item there. A few minutes ago, I successfully booted
Mageia 8 from it. As my confusion increases, it keeps them all in one
place. If, unlike me, you don’t keep many ISOs, you may not need it.
The software is free, and is installed on Partition1 of the stick.
That leaves at least 22 GB for storing ISOs. As always, YMMV!
Doug.
Even more usefull is that you can make the ISO's on a Ventoy stick "persistent": all changes you make on a running live system can be remembered on a special partition that you can add to the usb stick.
Things like individual names, users, even RPM update IIRW, are stored in that special area of 1 or 2 gB. You have to define persistence
partitions for each of the ISO's you put on the USB stick.
Normally all these changes are lost, when you reboot the system.
I found a usefull article about persistence here:
https://www.linux.org/threads/usb-linux-boot-ventoy.29944/
and here:
https://linux.org/threads/multi-boot-full-install-to-a-usb.23563/
On a 64 gB usb stick you can store several ISO's together with their persistence info.
Marc.
On 28/5/22 00:45, marchugo wrote:
On 5/27/22 14:35, Doug Laidlaw wrote:Thanks,for the tips, Marc. I found the online documentation and Web
Nowadays, USB sticks are everywhere. They can be used for
copyright-protected documents, and most distros (including Windows)
support using them as installation media. There are even predictions
that USB sticks will make CD-drives obsolete. Over a few years, I
have collected quite a few.
Advantages: Small size; not scratchable like DVDs; no time wasted
(and no excessive HD wear) hunting around on the DVD looking for the
next step in the installation process.
Disadvantage: There is no convenient storage facility for them,
allowing for easy selection. I keep mine in a plastic box.
I had not heard of Ventoy (https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html)
until I saw it mentioned on a forum in a different context. It goes
a long way towards reducing that last disadvantage. Many Linux
distros are too big to fit on a CD, but don’t fill a DVD. At
present, Mageia (4.2 GB) and Knoppix) (about the same) are the
biggest ones I have, and some are CD-size The total is 11.9 GB.
Ventoy allows them all (and an .img file) to fit on one 32 GB USB
stick, with room for more. Booting from the stick, an alphabetical
list of its contents is shown. Clicking on the item “boots” from it, >>> and it installs as if it were the only item there. A few minutes
ago, I successfully booted Mageia 8 from it. As my confusion
increases, it keeps them all in one place. If, unlike me, you don’t >>> keep many ISOs, you may not need it.
The software is free, and is installed on Partition1 of the stick.
That leaves at least 22 GB for storing ISOs. As always, YMMV!
Doug.
Even more usefull is that you can make the ISO's on a Ventoy stick
"persistent": all changes you make on a running live system can be
remembered on a special partition that you can add to the usb stick.
Things like individual names, users, even RPM update IIRW, are stored
in that special area of 1 or 2 gB. You have to define persistence
partitions for each of the ISO's you put on the USB stick.
Normally all these changes are lost, when you reboot the system.
I found a usefull article about persistence here:
https://www.linux.org/threads/usb-linux-boot-ventoy.29944/
and here:
https://linux.org/threads/multi-boot-full-install-to-a-usb.23563/
On a 64 gB usb stick you can store several ISO's together with their
persistence info.
Marc.
pages to be a bit light, and using a few acronyms that were beyond my expertise. Apparently a 64 Gb stick needs to be formatted differently.
2048+0 records in
2048+0 records out
2147483648 bytes (2,1 GB, 2,0 GiB) copied, 3,30469 s, 650 MB/s
mke2fs 1.45.6 (20-Mar-2020)
Creating filesystem with 524288 4k blocks and 131072 inodes
Filesystem UUID: c7d0dd76-2b9a-4330-91f8-1f1a373e90e2
Superblock backups stored on blocks:
32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912
Allocating group tables: done
Writing inode tables: done
Creating journal (16384 blocks): done
Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done
Nowadays, USB sticks are everywhere. They can be used for copyright-protected documents, and most distros (including Windows)
support using them as installation media. There are even predictions
that USB sticks will make CD-drives obsolete. Over a few years, I have collected quite a few.
Advantages: Small size; not scratchable like DVDs; no time wasted (and
no excessive HD wear) hunting around on the DVD looking for the next
step in the installation process.
Disadvantage: There is no convenient storage facility for them, allowing
for easy selection. I keep mine in a plastic box.
I had not heard of Ventoy (https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html)
until I saw it mentioned on a forum in a different context. It goes a
long way towards reducing that last disadvantage. Many Linux distros
are too big to fit on a CD, but don’t fill a DVD. At present, Mageia (4.2 GB) and Knoppix) (about the same) are the biggest ones I have, and
some are CD-size The total is 11.9 GB. Ventoy allows them all (and an .img file) to fit on one 32 GB USB stick, with room for more. Booting
from the stick, an alphabetical list of its contents is shown. Clicking
on the item “boots” from it, and it installs as if it were the only item there. A few minutes ago, I successfully booted Mageia 8 from it. As my confusion increases, it keeps them all in one place. If, unlike me,
you don’t keep many ISOs, you may not need it.
The software is free, and is installed on Partition1 of the stick. That leaves at least 22 GB for storing ISOs. As always, YMMV!
Doug.
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