The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does
not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does
not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which does
not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by dividing
the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And that jumps
up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
Herman Viaene wrote:Mageia
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does
not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And
that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or
from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
distribution it works very erratically.
Op Tue, 29 Nov 2022 12:45:39 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
Herman Viaene wrote:Mageia
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does >>>> not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And
that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or
from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
distribution it works very erratically.
Some hide the fact by not incrementing the time count as Mageia does.
I've seen downloads/installations hang at "30 seconds remaining" for over
1 minute. I don't know, and I really don't care, if that leaves a better impression....
Herman Viaene wrote:
Op Tue, 29 Nov 2022 12:45:39 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
Herman Viaene wrote:Mageia
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does >>>>> not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It >>>>> also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6 >>>>> minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And >>>> that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or >>>> from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
distribution it works very erratically.
Some hide the fact by not incrementing the time count as Mageia does.
I've seen downloads/installations hang at "30 seconds remaining" for over
1 minute. I don't know, and I really don't care, if that leaves a better
impression....
For those of us who have been using Mageia for a long time, this doesn't
make much difference, but it does leave a feeling of the lack of people working on the distribution.
Herman Viaene wrote:
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does
not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which does
not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by dividing
the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And that jumps
up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in Mageia distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be better to
remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for the end of the installation.
For those of us who have been using Mageia for a long time, this doesn't
make much difference, but it does leave a feeling of the lack of people working on the distribution.
On 2022-11-30 20:49, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:'t
For those of us who have been using Mageia for a long time, this doesn=
emake much difference, but it does leave a feeling of the lack of peopl=
=09working on the distribution.=20
And why is that a bad thing? Seems to me that Mageia's limited manpower=
is choosing substance over style, creating the best distro they can
without focusing on a bunch of window dressing that users won't see
again after the installation is complete.
On 1/12/22 12:49, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:Mageia DOES have limited resources. For that reason, the old Mandriva
Op Tue, 29 Nov 2022 12:45:39 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
Herman Viaene wrote:Mageia
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I haveThere is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does >>>>>> not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It >>>>>> also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6 >>>>>> minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation. >>>>>
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And >>>>> that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or >>>>> from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
distribution it works very erratically.
Some hide the fact by not incrementing the time count as Mageia does.
I've seen downloads/installations hang at "30 seconds remaining" for over >>> 1 minute. I don't know, and I really don't care, if that leaves a better >>> impression....
For those of us who have been using Mageia for a long time, this doesn't
make much difference, but it does leave a feeling of the lack of people
working on the distribution.
tools give way to what matters, the software.
If you think that manpower is a problem, you can always jump in and
help. Mageia is always looking for members who want to give something
back. I suggested an improvement to one of the tools. The reply I got
was that the software is all open source, so I am free to try my own
ideas. See
https://www.mageia.org/en/contribute/.
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does >>>> not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It
also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6
minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which does >>> not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by dividing
the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And that jumps >>> up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
Mageia
distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be better to
remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for the end of the
installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt simplified for the uninitiated:
Every time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do
it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something.
This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete the installation.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install
time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it,
so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a
timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and
would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media take
even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even worse
than an inaccurate timer does.
A timer is not essential for an installer. But if it's there, it's
supposed to work properly, if not, it's better to remove it. Only a
packet remaining counter could be put in place.
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 13:00:49 -0200, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
A timer is not essential for an installer. But if it's there, it's
supposed to work properly, if not, it's better to remove it. Only a
packet remaining counter could be put in place.
Yeah, but users would be upset because remain package count does not tell approximately how long it is going to take to completion.
Better might be size of remaining packages divided by current download
speed.
TJ wrote:
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it does >>>>> not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. It >>>>> also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in writing. 6 >>>>> minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally useless only
contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which does >>>> not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by dividing >>>> the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. And that jumps >>>> up and down all the time, whether it is from the internet or from a HD. >>>>
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but in
Mageia
distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be better to
remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for the end of the >>> installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt
simplified for the uninitiated:
I mean, you're corroborating what I said. Mageia install timer doesn't work well.
Every time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do
it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something.
This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete the
installation.
On other distributions I've tried, the timer works fine and I don't notice a slowdown on installation. How many cycles does the computer
need to do these maths? 100 or 200 cycles? On a computer running at 3
Giga Hertz this represents 0.00000006 seconds.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install
time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it,
so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to
design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a
timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and
would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media take
even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even worse
than an inaccurate timer does.
A timer is not essential for an installer. But if it's there, it's supposed to work properly, if not, it's better to remove it. Only a
packet remaining counter could be put in place.
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 13:00:49 -0200, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
A timer is not essential for an installer. But if it's there, it's
supposed to work properly, if not, it's better to remove it. Only a
packet remaining counter could be put in place.
Yeah, but users would be upset because remain package count does not tell approximately how long it is going to take to completion.
Better might be size of remaining packages divided by current download
speed.
TJ wrote:doesn't
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it
does not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen.
It also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in
writing. 6 minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally
useless only contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the
installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed.
And that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the
internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but
in
Mageia distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be
better to remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for
the end of the installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are
used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt
simplified for the uninitiated:
I mean, you're corroborating what I said. Mageia install timer
work well.
don'tEvery time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do
it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something.
This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete
the installation.
On other distributions I've tried, the timer works fine and I
notice a slowdown on installation. How many cycles does the computer
need to do these maths? 100 or 200 cycles? On a computer running at 3
Giga Hertz this represents 0.00000006 seconds.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install
time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it,
so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to
design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a
timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and
would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media
take even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even
worse than an inaccurate timer does.
Op Sun, 04 Dec 2022 13:00:49 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
TJ wrote:doesn't
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it
does not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. >>>>>> It also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in
writing. 6 minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally
useless only contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the >>>>>> installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed.
And that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the
internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but
in
Mageia distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be
better to remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for
the end of the installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are
used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt
simplified for the uninitiated:
I mean, you're corroborating what I said. Mageia install timer
work well.don't
Every time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do
it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something.
This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete
the installation.
On other distributions I've tried, the timer works fine and I
notice a slowdown on installation. How many cycles does the computer
need to do these maths? 100 or 200 cycles? On a computer running at 3
Giga Hertz this represents 0.00000006 seconds.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install
time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it,
so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to
design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a
timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and
would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media
take even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even
worse than an inaccurate timer does.
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes
within the time prevision it firsty displays.
Herman Viaene
Op Sun, 04 Dec 2022 13:00:49 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
TJ wrote:doesn't
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have
nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it
does not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. >>>>>> It also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in
writing. 6 minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally
useless only contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the >>>>>> installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which
does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by
dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed.
And that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the
internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but
in
Mageia distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be
better to remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for
the end of the installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are
used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt
simplified for the uninitiated:
I mean, you're corroborating what I said. Mageia install timer
work well.don't
Every time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do
it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something.
This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete
the installation.
On other distributions I've tried, the timer works fine and I
notice a slowdown on installation. How many cycles does the computer
need to do these maths? 100 or 200 cycles? On a computer running at 3
Giga Hertz this represents 0.00000006 seconds.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install
time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it,
so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to
design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a
timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and
would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media
take even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even
worse than an inaccurate timer does.
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes within the time prevision it firsty displays.
On 12/5/22 08:03, Herman Viaene wrote:
Op Sun, 04 Dec 2022 13:00:49 -0200, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
TJ wrote:doesn't
On 2022-11-29 09:45, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
Herman Viaene wrote:When I first started installing from a usb drive, I noticed how much
Op Thu, 24 Nov 2022 21:09:30 -0300, schreef Gilberto F da Silva:
The Mageia installer seems to be the same for a long time. I have >>>>>>> nothing old things as long as they work well but it seems that it >>>>>>> does not do it.
The timer works in an erratic way. It shows a while and is frozen. >>>>>>> It also changes in shape indicating a number and the time in
writing. 6 minutes, for example. The way this timer is totally
useless only contributing to the anxiety of those who are doing the >>>>>>> installation.
There is no timer in any installation program on any platform which >>>>>> does not behave this way. That is because it calculates the time by >>>>>> dividing the volume left to install by the CURRENT download speed. >>>>>> And that jumps up and down all the time, whether it is from the
internet or from a HD.
Herman Viaene
In other distributions I've seen this timer working fine but >>>>> in
Mageia distribution it works very erratically. I think it would be
better to remove it and leave a count of the remaining packages for
the end of the installation.
more inaccurate the timer is with that than when optical media are
used.
When I remarked about it, it was explained to me this way, no doubt
simplified for the uninitiated:
I mean, you're corroborating what I said. Mageia install timer
work well.don't
Every time you update the timer, you steal a few processor cycles to do >>>> it, processor cycles that would otherwise be used to install something. >>>> This lengthens the total install time, only a tiny bit each time, but
the more often you update the timer, the longer it takes to complete
the installation.
On other distributions I've tried, the timer works fine and I
notice a slowdown on installation. How many cycles does the computer
need to do these maths? 100 or 200 cycles? On a computer running at 3
Giga Hertz this represents 0.00000006 seconds.
The original timer was designed for use with optical media, and used
what was decided to be the best compromise between accuracy and install >>>> time. The install isos are still designed to be usable with optical
media, to give the widest possible base of hardware a chance to use it, >>>> so the older timer is still the one being used. It might be possible to >>>> design a new installer that would detect the media being used and use a >>>> timer designed for that media, but it would necessarily be larger, and >>>> would crowd something else off of the install iso. And switching to a
timer that updates more often would make install from optical media
take even longer than it does now, which would make Mageia look even
worse than an inaccurate timer does.
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes
within the time prevision it firsty displays.
Herman Viaene
Herman you need to do your updates to PCLinux more often. The timer is
affected by various factors including web traffic. My download
times remain fairly steady and my Synaptic updates seldom take long and
I do not remember any 18 hour wait times being shown except on big
torrents.
A timer is not essential for an installer. But if it's there, it's supposed to work properly, if not, it's better to remove it. Only a
packet remaining counter could be put in place.
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes
within the time prevision it firsty displays.
On 2022-12-05 11:03, Herman Viaene wrote:g
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.=
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.=
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes=
within the time prevision it firsty displays.=20
The problem, if there is one, isn't limited to installers.
=20
The battery indicator in my Plasma panel is currently telling me that
the battery is at 70%, and there is "1:38" remaining. A couple of
minutes ago it was at 72%, with "2:25" remaining. And while I was typin=
this, it dropped to 69%, with "2:14" remaining.
=20
Now, I know that this battery should be replaced, because in another
5-10 minutes it will suddenly drop to below 10% and give me a low
battery warning. But the point is, the Plasma indicator is erratic and obviously inaccurate.
=20
And BTW, when I look at Plasma's "energy information," it tells me the battery "health" is 100%. Also very wrong.
=20
And something tells me it would be the same, no matter which distro's
Plasma I might be using.
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TJ wrote:
On 2022-12-05 11:03, Herman Viaene wrote:
Yesterday I did an update on PCLinuxOS, some 170 packages to download.=
The timer jumped up and down all the time between 30 min and 18 HOURS.=
I would like to see some timer on any OS for such thing that completes=
gwithin the time prevision it firsty displays.=20
The problem, if there is one, isn't limited to installers.
=20
The battery indicator in my Plasma panel is currently telling me that
the battery is at 70%, and there is "1:38" remaining. A couple of
minutes ago it was at 72%, with "2:25" remaining. And while I was typin=
this, it dropped to 69%, with "2:14" remaining.
=20
Now, I know that this battery should be replaced, because in another
5-10 minutes it will suddenly drop to below 10% and give me a low
battery warning. But the point is, the Plasma indicator is erratic and
obviously inaccurate.
=20
And BTW, when I look at Plasma's "energy information," it tells me the
battery "health" is 100%. Also very wrong.
=20
And something tells me it would be the same, no matter which distro's
Plasma I might be using.
Knowing the remaining charge of a battery is not a simple task like
looking at the level of liquid in a tank. A bottle you look at it or
pick it up to know if it's full or empty. A battery has the same
appearance and weight whether it is charged or empty.
It is necessary for some hardware to convert voltage values for the
computer to try to estimate how much the battery is charged. In the case
of the installer it is quite different. There is a way to know exactly
how much is left to install.
I already understand that there are no personnel available to maintain
this program. Whoever wrote these routines has since left the project
and the program is now used as is.
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It is necessary for some hardware to convert voltage values for the
computer to try to estimate how much the battery is charged. In the case
of the installer it is quite different. There is a way to know exactly
how much is left to install.
I already understand that there are no personnel available to maintain
this program. Whoever wrote these routines has since left the project
and the program is now used as is.
On 2022-12-07, Gilberto F da Silva <gfs1989@gmx.net> wrote:
Knowing the remaining charge of a battery is not a simple task like
looking at the level of liquid in a tank. A bottle you look at it or
pick it up to know if it's full or empty. A battery has the same
appearance and weight whether it is charged or empty.
It is necessary for some hardware to convert voltage values for the computer to try to estimate how much the battery is charged. In the=20
case of the installer it is quite different. There is a way to know
exactly how much is left to install. =20
You do not listen do you.=20
As I have already said, it is NOT simple to know how much time there
is left to install. Downloading time varies by orders of magnitude,
depending on the congenstion between your machine and the server, on
your own computer's congestion,etc. And then there is the
installation time, which depends on many things as well. Counting the
number of files to be downloaded is a very bad estimate of how long
it will take to install them after they have been downloaded.
Counting their length similarly does not tell you what the lenght is.
Ie, you have never tried to write a program to determine what the installation length is going to be and yet you claim yourself to be
an expert.
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