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  • Not clear what mgaapplet-update-checker wants to say

    From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 07:12:45 2024
    Hi all,

    usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

    Installed is:

    $ uname -a
    Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

    When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
    this:

    $ mgaapplet-update-checker
    Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
    Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
    line 539.
    getting exclusive lock on urpmi
    unlocking urpmi database
    medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
    using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

    [...] and so on.

    Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Markus Robert Kessler on Sun Mar 17 17:37:39 2024
    Hello Markus!

    Sunday March 17 2024 07:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

    No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to you hardware and system set up etc.

    Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for X64 CPU's etc.

    But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed them
    and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
    The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.

    Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.

    Vince

    Hi all,

    usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

    Installed is:

    $ uname -a
    Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24

    00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

    When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like

    this:

    $ mgaapplet-update-checker
    Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
    Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at
    /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting exclusive lock
    on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date using mirror
    https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
    synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
    Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
    [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis
    file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree
    Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
    synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

    [...] and so on.

    Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

    Best regards,

    Markus



    Vincent


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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 13:53:43 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 07:12:45 -0000 (UTC), Markus Robert Kessler wrote:

    Hi all,

    usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

    Installed is:

    $ uname -a
    Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

    When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
    this:

    $ mgaapplet-update-checker
    Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
    Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
    line 539.
    getting exclusive lock on urpmi
    unlocking urpmi database
    medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
    using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

    [...] and so on.

    Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

    Best regards,

    Markus

    Perhaps load mcc and looked at Configure media sources for
    install and update ?

    And then go to /etc/urpmi and look at the contents of
    configuration files there ?

    I speculate urpmi has instructions to look at a media
    source in one place and in another has no instruction
    to use or update the files listed for it.

    Should cause no harm to just leave it as is.

    Cheers!

    jim b.



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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 16:54:31 2024
    On 2024-03-17 03:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
    Hi all,

    usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

    Installed is:

    $ uname -a
    Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24 00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

    When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something like
    this:

    $ mgaapplet-update-checker
    Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings
    Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm
    line 539.
    getting exclusive lock on urpmi
    unlocking urpmi database
    medium "Core Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date
    using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/
    synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-
    desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

    [...] and so on.

    Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

    Best regards,

    Markus

    The last several indicate that that kernels would be installed, rather
    than updated. Mageia does not remove old kernels when updating to new
    ones, as it does with "normal" updates. This is so the user can still
    boot into one of those older kernels should the new one fail.

    Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels app.

    The messages you quote are normal, and can be ignored.

    TJ

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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to TJ on Sun Mar 17 20:51:08 2024
    Hello TJ!

    Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:


    Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels
    app.

    What is that one, package/name etc ?


    Vincent


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  • From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 18:45:00 2024
    Hello Vincent, TJ, Jim!

    Thanks a lot for clarifying this,
    yes, good to know!

    Best regards,

    Markus





    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:37:39 +0000 Vincent Coen wrote:

    Hello Markus!

    Sunday March 17 2024 07:12, Markus Robert Kessler wrote to All:

    No it just means that these are available with NO consideration as to
    you hardware and system set up etc.

    Just did the same with a long list of kernels and many old and not for
    X64 CPU's etc.

    But running updater there is a stack of updates available so installed
    them and rerun it with similar comments for server, desktop, linus etc.
    The results are the same even when using prefix sudo to run it.

    Ignore them as not helpful - just run the normal updater - MageiaUpdate.

    Vince

    Hi all,

    usually I use mcc to update installed packages.

    Installed is:

    $ uname -a Linux linuxnb1 6.6.18-desktop-1.mga9 #1 SMP
    PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 24

    00:23:52 UTC 2024 i686 GNU/Linux

    When I do a manual mgaapplet-update-checker, then I get something
    like

    this:

    $ mgaapplet-update-checker Ignore the following Glib::Object::Introspection & Gtk3 warnings Subroutine Gtk3::main redefined at /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/Gtk3.pm line 539. getting exclusive lock on urpmi unlocking urpmi database medium "Core
    Updates" is up-to-date medium "Nonfree Updates" is up-to-date medium "Tainted Updates" is up-to-date using mirror https://mirror2.tuxinator.org/mageia/distrib/9/i586 examining
    synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Release/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Core
    Updates/synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file
    [/var/lib/urpmi/Core Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining
    synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz] examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Nonfree Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Release/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Updates/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/Tainted Backports/ synthesis.hdlist.cz]
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of
    upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586
    would install instead of upgrade package kernel- desktop586-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade
    package kernel- desktop586-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586 would install instead
    of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.9-4.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.4.16-3.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.11-5.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.5.13-6.mga9.i586 would
    install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.14-2.mga9.i586 would install instead of upgrade package kernel-desktop586- devel-6.6.18-1.mga9.i586

    [...] and so on.

    Does this mean something (wrong packages installed or so)?

    Best regards,

    Markus



    Vincent



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  • From Markus Robert Kessler@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 21:28:35 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:51:08 +0000 Vincent Coen wrote:

    Hello TJ!

    Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:


    Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old
    Kernels app.

    What is that one, package/name etc ?


    Vincent

    Hi,

    looks as if
    rpm -qi bootloader-utils
    can do this.

    Best regards,

    Markus

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 17 21:39:39 2024
    On 2024-03-17 16:51, Vincent Coen wrote:
    Hello TJ!

    Sunday March 17 2024 16:54, TJ wrote to All:


    > Older kernels must be removed manually, or with the Remove Old Kernels
    > app.

    What is that one, package/name etc ?


    Vincent


    This will shock you: "remove-old-kernels" is the package name. It's new
    for Mageia 9. Be sure to RTFM. (man rok)

    The default is to remove all but the last three kernels of each flavor (desktop, server, linus), but can be customized. The default is to run
    weekly, but it can be run manually, as well.

    TJ

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