• Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into alphabetical or

    From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 7 18:43:40 2025
    Subject: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into alphabetical
    order

    Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
    alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
    roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
    (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
    sudeenly rearrange itself.
    The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
    has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 7 20:54:42 2025
    Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
    alphabetical order

    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
    alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
    roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will sudeenly rearrange itself.
    The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
    has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

    My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
    boot.

    Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 7 22:03:17 2025
    Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
    alphabetical order

    On 8/3/25 07:54, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
    alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
    roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
    (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
    sudeenly rearrange itself.
    The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
    has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

    My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
    boot.

    Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is
    set to use.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    I had a similar problem some time ago with MGA8-7-6 ??
    I never found out what is was. But I also had issues with the screen resolution differences between the desktop, the graphical boot menu and
    the kernel boot messages
    One of the files is at root/etc/default/grub

    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nokmsboot noiswmd resume=UUID=0f26b0d8-adf7-45cf-a963-cc5d89c1a8e4 audit=0 vga=791" GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
    GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false
    GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=false
    GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=n
    GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=Mageia
    GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y
    GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080x32
    GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=auto
    GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true
    GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT=gfxterm
    GRUB_THEME=/boot/grub2/themes/maggy/theme.txt
    GRUB_TIMEOUT=10


    I believe there is another file(s) somewhere carrying GFXMODE resolution
    and they should agree. The Bit Twister was immensely helpful with my
    problem.
    He commented on why I was the only one to have much trouble with desktop
    icons

    Maybe someone better with "find" could pull them up
    As usual I wish I'd taken notes

    --
    faeychild
    Running kde on 6.6.79-desktop-1.mga9 kernel.
    Mageia release 9 (Official) for x86_64

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 7 23:51:16 2025
    Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
    alphabetical order

    On 2025-03-07, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
    alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
    roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop
    (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
    sudeenly rearrange itself.
    The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
    has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

    My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
    boot.

    Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Aha, that was probably it. The problem is that I use my machine in
    class, and have to have it both on my laptop screen and the projector in
    the room. My Dell laptop is 1920x1200 and the projector is 1920x1080, so making the system fit both decreases the laptop screen to 1920x1080. giving me a black bar on top and bottom of the computer screen, which I of course do not
    want when I am using the laptop, so I change back to 1920x1200
    Is there some way of telling the system not to change the ordering of he
    icons, even though the screen size has changed?

    I can se that if the screen goes from 1920x1200 to 600x400 something has
    to give, but a 10% change in the vertical really should not.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Mar 8 02:36:34 2025
    Subject: Re: Destop icons (Plasma) keep rearranging themselves into
    alphabetical order

    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 18:51:16 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:

    On 2025-03-07, David W. Hodgins <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Mar 2025 13:43:40 -0500, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote: >>
    Mageia 9. The destop icons keep rearranging themselves into the
    alphabetical order rather than the order I want them in ( which is
    roughly grouping into similar use). This happens on reboots on my laptop >>> (about 5 reboots a day). May times it does not do so, and then it will
    sudeenly rearrange itself.
    The Destop Folder Settings-Plasma
    has Icon sorting as manual, but clearly it is not listening to this.

    My best guess is that something is causing plasma to detect a change in desktop size during
    boot.

    Make sure the plasma desktop size is set to be the same as what X11 is set to use.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Aha, that was probably it. The problem is that I use my machine in
    class, and have to have it both on my laptop screen and the projector in
    the room. My Dell laptop is 1920x1200 and the projector is 1920x1080, so making
    the system fit both decreases the laptop screen to 1920x1080. giving me a black
    bar on top and bottom of the computer screen, which I of course do not
    want when I am using the laptop, so I change back to 1920x1200
    Is there some way of telling the system not to change the ordering of he icons, even though the screen size has changed?

    Not that I'm aware of.

    I can se that if the screen goes from 1920x1200 to 600x400 something has
    to give, but a 10% change in the vertical really should not.

    I agree that while it may need to change how many rows or columns it uses, it shouldn't
    change the sort order.

    You can report it as a bug to kde, but I can see keeping the code dealing with screen
    changes being kept as simple as possible as a reason to change the sort order.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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