I have just found IsoDumper in MCC under System > writing ISO images
I deliberately installed IsoDumper some months ago because it wasn't in the Start Menu System Tools.
So has it always been in MCC or only because I installed it ?
I have just found IsoDumper in MCC under System > writing ISO images
I deliberately installed IsoDumper some months ago because it wasn't in
the Start Menu System Tools.
So has it always been in MCC or only because I installed it ?
Testing confirms it's only shown in mcc/system if it has been installed.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
It appears as an option the next time you run MCC after installing it.
It's handy for formatting usb drives as well as dumping ISOs.
TJ
On 16/3/25 03:57, David W. Hodgins wrote:
Testing confirms it's only shown in mcc/system if it has been installed. >>
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Thanks TJ Dave that was my suspicion
Dave ! If you actually installed + checked and uninstalled + checked,
you are displaying dedication above and beyond
Regards
I started with a VirtualBox Mageia 9 guest that didn't have Isodumper installed. Checked MCC before installing, not there. Checked after installing through MCC but before closing it, still not there. Closed
MCC, opened it again, and there it was.
TJ
On 16/3/25 11:04, TJ wrote:
I started with a VirtualBox Mageia 9 guest that didn't have Isodumper
installed. Checked MCC before installing, not there. Checked after
installing through MCC but before closing it, still not there. Closed
MCC, opened it again, and there it was.
TJ
I wonder what other tools operate this way?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 17:23:39 -0400, faeychild
<faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/3/25 11:04, TJ wrote:
I started with a VirtualBox Mageia 9 guest that didn't have Isodumper
installed. Checked MCC before installing, not there. Checked after
installing through MCC but before closing it, still not there. Closed
MCC, opened it again, and there it was.
TJ
I wonder what other tools operate this way?
Any program that isn't installed from the list shown by
grep binary /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MDV/Control_Center.pm
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 17:23:39 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 16/3/25 11:04, TJ wrote:
I started with a VirtualBox Mageia 9 guest that didn't have Isodumper
installed. Checked MCC before installing, not there. Checked after
installing through MCC but before closing it, still not there. Closed
MCC, opened it again, and there it was.
TJ
I wonder what other tools operate this way?
Any program that isn't installed from the list shown by
grep binary /usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl/MDV/Control_Center.pm
Ie, the subordinate clause modifies "program" not "installed".
On 20/3/25 02:47, William Unruh wrote:
Ie, the subordinate clause modifies "program" not "installed".
OH GOD William memories resurfacing. I was starting to forget all
that stuff. subordinate nominative accusative etc..
These days I have to stop and think when I come across cardinal ordinal number. Which is which
And when someone says "He told jack and I". I tell myself to walk
away, just walk away
On 2025-03-19, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 20/3/25 02:47, William Unruh wrote:The problem was I had to think about his sentence about 3 min before I understood what he really meant. It made no sense to me as stated.
Ie, the subordinate clause modifies "program" not "installed".
OH GOD William memories resurfacing. I was starting to forget all
that stuff. subordinate nominative accusative etc..
These days I have to stop and think when I come across cardinal ordinal
number. Which is which
And when someone says "He told jack and I". I tell myself to walk
away, just walk away
("I" used as the dative makes me shudder as well, but at least it is relatively easily understandable.Although if I see a subject I being used as the recipient
of the action (told) I keep wondering what that you ("I") are doing)
The purpose of good grammer is not to follow
rules, but to make things easily understood. You may then agree or
disagree with the statement, but at least you know what you are agreeing
or disagreeing with.
Would "He told Jack and my" be OK?
Would "He told Jack and my" be OK?
On 2025-03-19 22:42, William Unruh wrote:
On 2025-03-19, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:Sure, as long as something was following "my."
On 20/3/25 02:47, William Unruh wrote:The problem was I had to think about his sentence about 3 min before I
Ie, the subordinate clause modifies "program" not "installed".
OH GOD William memories resurfacing. I was starting to forget all
that stuff. subordinate nominative accusative etc..
These days I have to stop and think when I come across cardinal ordinal
number. Which is which
And when someone says "He told jack and I". I tell myself to walk
away, just walk away
understood what he really meant. It made no sense to me as stated.
("I" used as the dative makes me shudder as well, but at least it is
relatively easily understandable.Although if I see a subject I being used as the recipient
of the action (told) I keep wondering what that you ("I") are doing)
The purpose of good grammer is not to follow
rules, but to make things easily understood. You may then agree or
disagree with the statement, but at least you know what you are agreeing
or disagreeing with.
Would "He told Jack and my" be OK?
my brother
my friend
my worst enemy (Maybe not that one. Depends on what he told them.)
TJ
On 20/3/25 13:42, William Unruh wrote:
Would "He told Jack and my" be OK?
And then I would think "Jack and my (what)"
All that clause, phrase, dative, possessive, nominative, accusative,
etc.. has gone out of my head.
I've checked Google several times recently, "semi-colon vs colon" and I still don't remember exactly.
It doesn't stick in my head to much anymore.
I seem to have made the effort, once, to learn English grammar, only to
find that few of my peers bothered.
Punctuation can also be fraught
Regards
I've checked Google several times recently, "semi-colon vs colon" and I still don't remember exactly.
Read lots of well written books. If the sentence confuses you, the
grammer is probably wrong.
And then I would think "Jack and my (what)"
Read lots of well written books. If the sentence confuses you, the
grammer is probably wrong.
Punctuation can also be fraught
My wife is a stickler for hyphens, to help clarify the relationship
between words in a sentence.
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 00:07:10 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
Read lots of well written books. If the sentence confuses you, the
grammer is probably wrong.
I've have a problem that has existed since I started writing as a child. When I proofread
my own writing, I tend to see what I know I should have written instead
of what I actually
wrote.
The workaround of writing, work on something else, then go back and proofread the writing
doesn't work when I write messages and send them right away, as I tend
to do with usenet
and mailing lists.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On 2025-03-20 16:07, faeychild wrote:
And then I would think "Jack and my (what)"
Makes me think of advertising. "Every time I hear a product "contains
MORE (good stuff)" I think, "More than what?"
TJ
On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 00:07:10 -0400, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
Read lots of well written books. If the sentence confuses you, the
grammer is probably wrong.
I've have a problem that has existed since I started writing as a child. When I proofread
my own writing, I tend to see what I know I should have written instead of what I actually
wrote.
The workaround of writing, work on something else, then go back and proofread the writing
doesn't work when I write messages and send them right away, as I tend to do with usenet
and mailing lists.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
I have just found IsoDumper in MCC under System > writing ISO images
I deliberately installed IsoDumper some months ago because it wasn't in the Start Menu System Tools.
So has it always been in MCC or only because I installed it ?
late to this oldish thread
faeychild wrote:
I'm new to this group for Mageia's isodumper.
I have just found IsoDumper in MCC under System > writing ISO
images
I deliberately installed IsoDumper some months ago because it
wasn't in the Start Menu System Tools.
So has it always been in MCC or only because I installed it ?
When it didn't appear in the MCC RPMdrak for installation as I had
expected, I used the dnf install.
So, the RPMdrak isn't 'expected' to show packages in the repo/s but
not yet installed? That seems strange.
Mike Easter wrote to all:
> When it didn't appear in the MCC RPMdrak for installation as I had
> expected, I used the dnf install.
> So, the RPMdrak isn't 'expected' to show packages in the repo/s but
> not yet installed? That seems strange.
isodumper is installed by default - at least according to my installation
as I did not do so manually.
Using the s/w management option via MCC and then isodumper it shows what
has been installed (or not) and use using MGA v9.
I'm just relating my recent isodumper experiences.
Vincent Coen wrote:
Mike Easter wrote to all:Hi yourself :-)
> When it didn't appear in the MCC RPMdrak for installation as I had
> expected, I used the dnf install.
> So, the RPMdrak isn't 'expected' to show packages in the repo/s but
> not yet installed? That seems strange.
isodumper is installed by default - at least according to my installation
as I did not do so manually.
Using the s/w management option via MCC and then isodumper it shows what
has been installed (or not) and use using MGA v9.
That wasn't my experience. I wrote the Mag9XFCE to a Ventoy stick,
booted it and searched in the MCC RPMdrak for it. It wasn't there. From
a Mag wiki isodumper page I saw the instructions for dnf and so I used
that. There was clearly a significant installation going on, and after installation isodumper appeared in the menu and was able to run.
However, it could not 'do what I wanted' from that status because its internal file manager could not access another connected device and I couldn't 'see what was going on' later because the bottom of its window
was off-screen and the resizing function didn't work properly; it only resized from side to side, not 'from the corner or the bottom' to bring
the bottom of the window onto the screen.
I don't mean to 'whine', I'm just relating my recent isodumper
experiences. In the end, I'm happy w/ the results; it worked as predicted.
My recollection is that Mag9KDE performed the same way, and since it is still on the Ventoy stick I can boot it up again and check that later.
I may do a 'little' bit more to try to figure it out.
Recapitulating the booting of Mag9KDE live from Ventoy; no isodumper in rpmdrak of MCC.
It doesn't make sense to me that rpmdrake shouldn't be able to see everything in the repo/s whether the live is 'truncated' or not.
Hi yourself 🙂
That wasn't my experience. I wrote the Mag9XFCE to a Ventoy stick,
booted it and searched in the MCC RPMdrak for it. It wasn't there. From
a Mag wiki isodumper page I saw the instructions for dnf and so I used that. There was clearly a significant installation going on, and after installation isodumper appeared in the menu and was able to run.
However, it could not 'do what I wanted' from that status because its internal file manager could not access another connected device and I couldn't 'see what was going on' later because the bottom of its window
was off-screen and the resizing function didn't work properly; it only resized from side to side, not 'from the corner or the bottom' to bring
the bottom of the window onto the screen.
I don't mean to 'whine', I'm just relating my recent isodumper experiences. In the end, I'm happy w/ the results; it worked as predicted.
When you boot from a Live iso into Live mode, the only repos (and
packages) available are the ones on the Live medium itself.
TJ wrote:
When you boot from a Live iso into Live mode, the only repos (and
packages) available are the ones on the Live medium itself.
When I boot a live Mag iso into live mode and install dnfdragora I can
see plenty of isodumpers in the repo/s.
Mike Easter wrote:
TJ wrote:I did say "I have next to no experience with dnf, but I believe the
When you boot from a Live iso into Live mode, the only repos (and
packages) available are the ones on the Live medium itself.
When I boot a live Mag iso into live mode and install dnfdragora I can
see plenty of isodumpers in the repo/s.
process is similar."
(Shrug.) So I'm wrong. Not the first time, won't be the last.
TJ wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what goes wrong; so any kind of
TJ wrote:I did say "I have next to no experience with dnf, but I believe the
When you boot from a Live iso into Live mode, the only repos (and
packages) available are the ones on the Live medium itself.
When I boot a live Mag iso into live mode and install dnfdragora I
can see plenty of isodumpers in the repo/s.
process is similar."
(Shrug.) So I'm wrong. Not the first time, won't be the last.
datapoint, positive or negative is helpful.
Most of this has been about Mag XFCE, but KDE is actually the 'flagship'
so I'm going to do more with that next.
None of this has to do w/ conventional installs, so there's that.
When I boot a live Mag iso into live mode and install dnfdragora I can
see plenty of isodumpers in the repo/s.
I've looked in rpmdrake's configuration functions
and I can't see a way to change that which actually works.
In the KDE v, I'm adding media to rpmdrake (many of which have a .cz
domain) and now when I search it looks in both installed and *available* packages and then the search shows the various isodumpers as described earlier numbering 6.
So, rpmdrake can be 'induced' to show isodumper by changing its 'native' behavior, but the default condition is only for installed packages.
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