Hey

So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package (because
that's what I do when I am bored).

So far I have logins and signups working and reading squish message
bases.

You can have a look at a snapshot via HappyLand or directly at nocturnal.hopto.org:2626 if you want to.

This one runs on windows only, is written in C++, and consists of 2
programs, Servo which answers the telnet connection, and Ghost which
gets passed the socket handle and runs the BBS.

I'm a bit tired of working on it today, so might pick it up later.

Anyway, just having fun. :)

Andrew

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So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package (because
that's what I do when I am bored).

I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the old source
code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

Maybe next life!


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So far I have logins and signups working and reading squish message
bases.

I'd love to see squish and *.msg support in Magicka. I don't think I'd
use *.msg for a lot but there are times when *.msg support comes in
handy. Makenl only has support for *.msg and some games use *.msg to
attach files to be sent to other nodes. The GAC games come to mind.

I haven't actually setup netmail on the BBS yet but I wonder, does
Magicka do AKA matching, so if I write a netmail to an fsxNet node it
uses my fsxNet AKA and if I write one in fidonet it uses my fidonet AKA?

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the
old source code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

Give Magicka a try and give your feedback and ideas to Apam. It's not
Renegade or VA I know, but it's off the a good start.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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So far I have logins and signups working and reading squish
message bases.

I'd love to see squish and *.msg support in Magicka. I don't think
I'd use *.msg for a lot but there are times when *.msg support
comes in handy. Makenl only has support for *.msg and some games
use *.msg to attach files to be sent to other nodes. The GAC games
come to mind.

I don't think I will be adding squish support to magicka, from what I
can tell JAM is better. .MSG could be useful though.

I haven't actually setup netmail on the BBS yet but I wonder, does
Magicka do AKA matching, so if I write a netmail to an fsxNet node
it uses my fsxNet AKA and if I write one in fidonet it uses my
fidonet AKA?

Magicka uses per network netmail bases, rather than one big netmail
base. So you would have a netmail base in your fsxnet conference and it
would use that aka, and one in your fidonet conference and it would use
that aka.

Andrew

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So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package
(because that's what I do when I am bored).

I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the
old source code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

I had thought someone was working on renegade?

I had a look at the source for forum but the license was terrible so i
slowly backed away from it :) It's probably better to start from scratch
than redoing something old I think, just because people have no
expectations and there is no legal worries.

Do you have any coding skills? Writing a BBS isn't too hard if you break
it down into smaller pieces. The hardest part is integrating the older technologies I think like squish or JAM or FTN etc. If you use squish or
JAM then you can use HPT as a tosser and binkd as a mailer and focus on
the BBS.

It would be cool to get more people interested in BBS development, at
one point years ago I started a tutorial, though I don't think anyone
was really interested. I find it fun, though I know it's not for
everyone.

Andrew

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Give Magicka a try and give your feedback and ideas to Apam. It's not Renegade or VA I know, but it's off the a good start.

hi is the a bbs software if so were can i download it from would love to play around with it

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Give Magicka a try and give your feedback and ideas to Apam.
It's not Renegade or VA I know, but it's off the a good start.

hi is the a bbs software if so were can i download it from would
love to play around with it

Yes, you can get the magicka source with git. Instructions are on the
magicka bbs homepage at http://magickabbs.com.

Once you have done that you will have docs in your MagickaBBS/docs
directory. If you have questions there is help for you here.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I don't think I will be adding squish support to magicka,

I always prefered squish because they don't need purging and packing as frequently as jam bases.

from what I can tell JAM is better.

That could be so. I don't know the technical differences between jam and squish.

.MSG could be useful though.

It would be. It's the lowest common denominator and at times I need it so
I have to have a *.MSG area here. ATM, I just have one netmail area here.
It's *.MSG since it covers all my bases.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:04p, apam pondered and said...

I'm a bit tired of working on it today, so might pick it up later.

Anyway, just having fun. :)

That's the main thing :)

I think when you can scratch an itch of curiosity things can get interesting very quickly.

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I had thought someone was working on renegade?

You're probably referring to official RG development, but the sysop of Catch
22 BBS has an extremely customized RG board up that is completely unrecognizable as being Renegade. Really cool board.

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Yes, you can get the magicka source with git. Instructions are on the magicka bbs homepage at http://magickabbs.com.
Once you have done that you will have docs in your MagickaBBS/docs directory. If you have questions there is help for you here.. :)
Ttyl :-),
Al

great ill have a look when i get some time .... thanks
Widgit

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22 Feb 20 22:12, you wrote to apam:

I don't think I will be adding squish support to magicka,

I always prefered squish because they don't need purging and packing as frequently as jam bases.

I started with Squish in the 90s and I still like it, never understood the advantages of JAM.

from what I can tell JAM is better.

That could be so. I don't know the technical differences between jam and squish.

What is better with JAM?
That it doesn't preserve messages exactly as they are?
That it's harder to repair the message base, if it is corrupted?

Yes, the format is a bit cleaner and it can store 5D addresses, but from a user
perspective I
don't see any advantages. But maybe I'm missing something.

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I started with Squish in the 90s and I still like it, never
understood the advantages of JAM.

I have always liked Squish bases. That's my preference as a consumer of
message bases. A lot of that is likely simply because I am most familiar
with them.

One drawback I am aware of with the squish base is that there can be no
more than 8 or 9 threads connected to a message. If more messages arrive
that would have been linked they won't be because the format can't
accomodate more than that. I don't know why but that's the way it was
designed. Maybe that was considered enough, maybe it is enough.

Both Jam and Squish are both quite old formats but I think both still do
what we need them to do. Not fancy by any stretch but gets the task at
hand done for a BBS operator or an FTN node.

What is better with JAM?

Peanut butter.. ;)

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Yes, you can get the magicka source with git. Instructions are on the magicka bbs homepage at http://magickabbs.com.

Thanks for posting this up here. I'm going to play the village idiot for a second (even though my ex has another name for this title). Just picked up ArcaOS 5.0.4 personal today...added on an extra year of support & got a
Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e Thin Client G465 1.9GHz 8GB/4GB F/R W7SE w/ AC/DVD
WiFi for a $50 offer.

Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to ask.

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It would be. It's the lowest common denominator and at times I need it so I have to have a *.MSG area here. ATM, I just have one netmail area here. It's *.MSG since it covers all my bases.

I seem to remember that one of the reasons folks wanted to get away from
*.MSG was because of the space hardly any of us had/could afford at the time. If this is the case...would it really matter what format you use if you have the excess space?

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Thanks for posting this up here. I'm going to play the village
idiot for a second (even though my ex has another name for this
title). Just picked up ArcaOS 5.0.4 personal today...added on an
extra year of support & got a Lenovo Thinkcentre M72e Thin Client
G465 1.9GHz 8GB/4GB F/R W7SE w/ AC/DVD WiFi for a $50 offer.

That sounds like fun. I ran OS/2 back before IBM threw in the towel. I
was so dissapointed back then.

I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go
already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux
covers all my needs.. so..

Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
ask.

I'm not sure of what kind of OSs Magicka can run on. OS/2 or ArcaOS are
going to have drive letters. That might throw a wrench into the gears. It
may not either since there are many softwares (Synchronet comes to mind)
that can be built on Windows/Linux/Mac/Pi.

Apam has been building and running a BBS on windows recently. Makes
me think he may be working that into Magicka.. but I don't know. I
suspect he may comment on your post.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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I seem to remember that one of the reasons folks wanted to get away
from *.MSG was because of the space hardly any of us had/could
afford at the time. If this is the case...would it really matter
what format you use if you have the excess space?

With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area. I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so I
have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and
MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.

I don't think anyone writing doors or utilities today would use that
method, they'd likely use a filebox. These utilities/doors I am talking
about predate fileboxes. Back then attaching files to a message (think FrontDoor) was the we we moved stuff. Today I'd avoid it if at all
possible.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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That sounds like fun. I ran OS/2 back before IBM threw in the towel. I
was so dissapointed back then.

So was I. Was looking into getting my certification in OS/2 25 years
ago...but that was before I went to work at Gateway & found what I needed to get my MCSE in NT 4.

I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux covers all my needs.. so..

Been playing around with Warp for several months. Was looking at getting it running to put the board on...but couldn't get the networking stack working. That's changed.

Was watching some You Tube videos on ArcaOS yesterday. 2 hours with the designers & seeing it run made up my mind. May just be a project I goof
around with like 20+ years ago.

I'm not sure of what kind of OSs Magicka can run on. OS/2 or ArcaOS are going to have drive letters. That might throw a wrench into the gears. It may not either since there are many softwares (Synchronet comes to mind) that can be built on Windows/Linux/Mac/Pi.

That helps to answer a question & helps not to waste some time when something better would work much better. Will do some more research & see what's been done with WWIV as well with the 5 builds. Can't be the only one who is asking these questions.

Apam has been building and running a BBS on windows recently. Makes
me think he may be working that into Magicka.. but I don't know. I
suspect he may comment on your post.

Love asking questions...since some times they lead to answers.

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With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area. I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

I remember that with Telegard. Also remember the guys were were running
Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.

In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so I have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.
about predate fileboxes. Back then attaching files to a message (think FrontDoor) was the we we moved stuff. Today I'd avoid it if at all possible.

Had no idea after 30 years...people would even consider it.

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On 02-24-20 15:56, Al wrote to Phoobar <=-

I've looked at ArcaOS with interest but I have so many things on the go already that I never get time to have a serious look and I think linux covers all my needs.. so..

I've looked at it too. Very tempting, but have to be realistic for now. When I get a bit more money, I might buy a copy and possibly a system to run it on, instead of using a VM. I'm not sure what software I'd run on it. I could resurrect my old system as a museum piece, or look for something native. But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?


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On 02-24-20 16:09, Al wrote to Phoobar <=-

With *.MSG bases you get 1.msg, 2.msg etc in a directory for each area.
I wouldn't even go there.. ;)

Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte "me too" message. :D

In my case using MagiMail or HPT I have support for that format. I have
a couple utilities/games that use it, just for sending file attaches so
I have a *.MSG netmail base that those utilities can drop stuff in and MagiMail or hpt will send them off to where they need to go.

I used to like having my netmail on my old system passing through as *.msg at an intermediate stage of processing. That was useful for the address manipulation that I did for my GIGO gateway. I could use NetMgr to change address headers on the fly, so othernets using my gateway could address their netmails from a dummy address on the othernet, which got rewritten to the actual (Fidonet) address as the netmail passed through. Incoming gated email would have its source address changed from the Fidonet one to the matching fake address that matched the destination FTN address.

So far, I haven't had that need in recent times.

As for echomail, I'd never use *.msg for that.


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Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
ask.

It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I
have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as
various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but
that's about all I know ;)

It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

Andrew

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Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte
"me too" message. :D

Much much worse than that. The stations I was working at were using FAT16
with DOS for the Phantom software. Eventually...the author started using
FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted space & fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an idea of setting the software
up under FreeDOS...but never had the time or ability to take systems down
which were running 24/7.

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Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a

It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as

Was playing around with a copy of 4.52 I found over on the Internet Archive. Not having played around with it for 20+ years...the good memories I had
using it started coming back.

various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but that's about all I know ;)

Had to wait until I got my refunds to get my copy. It does have some changes from Warp in terms of the *nix hooks to run the software being ported over. Being naive & lack of intelligence in programming...just had a thought that
if you had the same libraries used to build the packages under the same architecture...might just work. Naive I know...

It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

Very true. Put 2/3-3/4 of the refund into savings to eventually get a car/truck...but wanted to spend a little of it on a new set of toys to keep
my mind sharp. Love having those "hold my beer moments" when I get an idea to try. ;)

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25 Feb 20 11:58, you wrote to Phoobar:

Wonder if there would be a way to complie Magicka code to run on
OS/2 updated code base with the libraries available? Am not a
programmer & I know it makes me sound like an idiot...but wanted to
ask.

It might be possible, though I imagine it would require some changes. I have eComStation 2.1 or something, but no arca os. I think arca os as various unix utilities ported to it, I know it has RPM and YUM - but that's about all I know ;)

It might be a nice experiment, but I don't have the $ to buy arca os.

Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network card, IIRC) and
then was to lazy
to figure out the problem.

Btw, gcc 9.2 has been ported to OS/2

https://www.osnews.com/story/131305/gcc-9-2-compiler-ported-to-os-2-warp-arcaos -ecomstation/

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Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network
card, IIRC) and then was to lazy
to figure out the problem.

I don't know how much has changed between ecomstation and arcaos so I
can't answer that. If it runs on ecomstation then it should, but i don't
know whether the other way around applies.

I saw that gcc 9.2 had been ported, it is also possible to get yum and
rpm onto ecomstation but at present the bootstrap contains too old
version of rpm to bootstrap itself, and I gave up.

Andrew

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On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:04p, apam pondered and said...

So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package (because
that's what I do when I am bored).

Cool!

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I remember that with Telegard. Also remember the guys were were
running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.

With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the
limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at all.

Had no idea after 30 years...people would even consider it.

In my case it seems to come up from time to time. There are other ways to
do it for just for the occasional *.msg, netmgr or cfroute.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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I've looked at it too. Very tempting, but have to be realistic for
now. When I get a bit more money, I might buy a copy and possibly
a system to run it on, instead of using a VM. I'm not sure what
software I'd run on it. I could resurrect my old system as a
museum piece, or look for something native.

There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple
of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent fix
for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
BBSing although it's not like it once was.

The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making
available lots of OS/2 stuff.

If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with
all the usual stuff.








Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 25 Feb 2020 at 11:40a, Al pondered and said...

But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent fix for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

The fix for that is sitting in a pull request. It would be
great if people could ping it:

https://github.com/pgul/binkd/pull/17

Perhaps that will exert some gentle pressure on Pavel to
merge it.

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Do you really need ArcaOS to port Magicka? If a program runs on eComStation, shouldn't it run on
ArcaOS too? OS/2 was my main OS in the 90s, but I never used eCS or

Neither did I...but when I was able to run on bare metal...Warp smoked
anything MS was currently offering. Am hoping that this new system I'm
getting in a week will make smoke come out of the case from being too fast
for me.

ArcaOS. Tried to install Warp
4.52 in Qemu but I wasn't sucessful (something with the network card, IIRC) and then was to lazy
to figure out the problem.

I used Virtualbox to install it...since it had the additions to make Warp run like it's supposed to. My problem with the networking was solved by an image
I got from Sean Dennis. Seeing how the network was setup in there allowed me
to recreate it myself in Virtualbox.

If you would like some help...let me know. When I finally got the networking running in Warp...I felt pretty stupid since I just needed to change some settings after loading up the new networking stack.

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running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were always terrified that database would get corrupted.

With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at all.

I seem to remember reading something about that back in the day. Have a
feeling it was a solution for a problem which came too late.

In my case it seems to come up from time to time. There are other ways to do it for just for the occasional *.msg, netmgr or cfroute.

Nice that we still have a way to do this on an occasional basis.

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Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

Sean Dennis is still running Maximus.

The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making available lots of OS/2 stuff.
If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with all the usual stuff.

I would certainly like the link.

Finally got AcraOS setup on Virtualbox. It flies! Even used the native telnet client to log into my BBS...but was getting a lot of garbage characters. Getting it to connect & log on was the highlight of the night!

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Sean Dennis is still running Maximus.

That's one I was thinking of. The other I haven't been able to log into
for years because I forgot the password but my user account hasn't been
deleted since the late 90's.. ;)

If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here
along with all the usual stuff.

I would certainly like the link.

Netmail or email me (agianson@gmail.com) and we'll get the link setup.

I just need the details to setup the link. Session password and areafix
and packet passwords (if any).

Ttyl :-),
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On 02-24-20 20:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Was even worse in the latter days of FAT16 with large drives - cluster sizes up to 64k - a huge amount of diskspace allocated for a 500 byte
"me too" message. :D

Much much worse than that. The stations I was working at were using
FAT16 with DOS for the Phantom software. Eventually...the author
started using FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted space
& fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an

FAT32 only has 4k clusters, which would mean a saving of up to 60k per message!

idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the time
or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.

That's always a hassle.


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On 02-25-20 11:40, Al wrote to Vk3jed <=-

There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish
and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

I know there was, but the issue is all those are dated, so good for legacy systems, but that's about it. I never ran Maximus back in the day, so that would be a new experience.

But is there any OS/2 netive software in current development?

The husky and binkd projects run on OS/2 although there was a recent
fix for binkd that still needs to be implemented on the OS/2 side.

Cool. :)

GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
BBSing although it's not like it once was.

Another two very useful packages. :)

The GFD (German File Distribution) is still vibrant today, making available lots of OS/2 stuff.

That would be interesting.

If anyone would like a link for those files I have them here along with all the usual stuff.

Might take you up on that. :)


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That's one I was thinking of. The other I haven't been able to log into for years because I forgot the password but my user account hasn't been deleted since the late 90's.. ;)

Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago...so
don't feel bad. ;)

Netmail or email me (agianson@gmail.com) and we'll get the link setup.

Have sent out an email for you...along with what happened today. Funny thing...none of this would've happened if they had asked me or not forced me
& let me not do the complete shift doing what I used to do.

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started using FAT32 & Windows to run his system...but the wasted spac & fragmentation was too much to deal with at times. Come up with an

FAT32 only has 4k clusters, which would mean a saving of up to 60k per message!

They were using DOS with the software basically using an ANSI screen (like
many of our boards) to run the stations & do the time-shifting. Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.

idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the tim or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.

That's always a hassle.

Since the systems took a high dollar sound card...it was hard to run any
tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound card in for
the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

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running Hudson. Noticed that the folks running Hudson were alway terrified that database would get corrupted.

With good reason! There is a goldbase that I think overcame the limitations of the hudson base but I'm not sure it ever caught on at

I seem to remember reading something about that back in the day. Have a feeling it was a solution for a problem which came too late.

Ah yes Hudson used smaller datatypes and would run out as harddrives and
echoes got bigger and more numerous. Yeah Goldbase increases quite a bit over Hudson for sure. I only know of QuickBBS ever using it, and I know this since
I recently got a QuickBBS system up and running and using Goldbase. However it's very limiting to what tools you can use with it since it was such a
flash in the pan at the end of the peak of BBS. I think FMAIL is about your only modern mail tosser that works with it. I tried an older one but it has problems with Y2K so FMAIL it is.

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There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish and Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a couple of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever happen to it though.

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Ah yes Hudson used smaller datatypes and would run out as harddrives and echoes got bigger and more numerous. Yeah Goldbase increases quite a bit over Hudson for sure. I only know of QuickBBS ever using it, and I know this since I recently got a QuickBBS system up and running and using Goldbase. However it's very limiting to what tools you can use with it

I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

think FMAIL is about your only modern mail tosser that works with it. I tried an older one but it has problems with Y2K so FMAIL it is.

Haven't heard of it...but I still can't believe how much change happened from all those years ago.

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On 25 Feb 20 21:30:12, Jokker said the following to Al:

There was/is a lot of great FTN software for OS/2. Maximus and squish a Telegard come to mind. Both designed for dial-up although I know a coup of Maximus BBSs still up and running today on OS/2.

A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever happen to it though.

I thought Adept split off into two seperate codebases... Orion comes to mind.

Atreyu

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On 25 Feb 20 19:28:26, Phoobar said the following to Jokker:

I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

Searchlight uses its own proprietary message format and a utility to move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

Atreyu

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On 25 Feb 2020 at 05:03p, Phoobar pondered and said...

Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago...so don't feel bad. ;)

If it helps I can't remember mine sometimes ;-p

I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to so next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want that.

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On 26 Feb 2020 at 02:25a, Atreyu pondered and said...

move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

I have fond memories of renemail... I think that was the name.

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On 26 Feb 20 21:09:07, Avon said the following to Atreyu:

move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

I have fond memories of renemail... I think that was the name.

I had to almost rewrite it here as it was such a buggy piece of crap.

Atreyu

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On 02-25-20 17:08, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

They were using DOS with the software basically using an ANSI screen
(like many of our boards) to run the stations & do the time-shifting. Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the
time of 20+ years ago.

Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

idea of setting the software up under FreeDOS...but never had the tim or ability to take systems down which were running 24/7.

That's always a hassle.

Since the systems took a high dollar sound card...it was hard to run
any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound card
in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar
sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

Indeed.


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On 02-25-20 19:28, Phoobar wrote to jokker <=-

I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson. Those who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced the pressure on the HMB.


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GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable OS for
BBSing although it's not like it once was.

FleetStreet is open source too.

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Have sent out an email for you...along with what happened today.
Funny thing...none of this would've happened if they had asked me
or not forced me & let me not do the complete shift doing what I
used to do.

Yep, I got your email and replied. I have your node setup now, I think.
We'll need to test that it's working as expected.

Let me know if it needs work.. :)

Ttyl :-),
Al

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A friend of mine used AdeptX back in the 90's no idea whatever
happen to it though.

I had a qick look at Adept years ago. From the user side it was just what
you'd expect and on the system side it was an OS/2 PM app. Very nice.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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GoldED and timEd are available for OS/2 also. Still a viable
OS for BBSing although it's not like it once was.

FleetStreet is open source too.

Another PM GUI app, also very nice.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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who ran these systems were some of the biggest supporters I ever met.

Searchlight uses its own proprietary message format and a utility to
move mail to and from, like Renegade and some others.

Ah...wasn't sure...but I know in the Oklahoma City area...it had some big fanboys who loved it.

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Can't remember my password for Avon's board from several months ago.. don't feel bad. ;)

If it helps I can't remember mine sometimes ;-p

Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)

BTW...you made me laugh. After yesterday...exactly what I needed to feel better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing through my mind.

I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to so next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want that.

Oh yeah! Fantastic!

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Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.

Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software you use.

any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound ca in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

Indeed.

The thing is if it had worked...we would've saved other companies from losing their HDD space to an antiquated file system. The big bug in the room may
have been the company not wanting their software running on top of an open source project. Part of the same bug was if the software was being run on top of a license to only run with MS-DOS...that would've been bad.

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I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson

RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced
the pressure on the HMB.

I feel very old that I didn't realize that. That would've been sweet back in the day.

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Yep, I got your email and replied. I have your node setup now, I think. We'll need to test that it's working as expected.
Let me know if it needs work.. :)

Got it & think I have it set up on my end with the information you sent.
Kicked you out a netmail last night & will kick you out another to see if I have it set up right on my end.

Thanks!

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On 26 Feb 2020 at 02:16p, Phoobar pondered and said...

Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)

If you go first I'll follow you... then we can both get lost together :)

BTW...you made me laugh. After yesterday...exactly what I needed to feel better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing through
my mind.

Glad I could help, yeah work can be a pain sometimes so I totally get where you're coming from there.

I think I can issue a force password change for you if you want me to next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you want tha

Oh yeah! Fantastic!

OK doing this now.

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On 02-26-20 14:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Worked well...but the 2 GB drives ran in an array were pricey for the time of 20+ years ago.

Oh, OK. Now I'm not quite sure what sort of system we're talking about. We did start this discussion talking about BBSs that used *.MSG messagebases. :)

I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software you use.

Yeah, but without reference to the actual file size vs cluster size, it's a bit less meaningful. Sure, we know there's going to be considerable "slack space" (as it was termed back in the day), but how serious that issue depends on the number of files on disk and the average percentage of the file's last cluster used. A *.MSG messagebase represents a worst case example - numerous tiny files, which waste truckloads of diskspace. But of course, that's only one of many possible examples.

any tests to see if FreeDOS would've worked. Had to have the sound ca in for the system to even initialize...so a several hundred dollar sound card just wasn't lying around to play with.

Indeed.

The thing is if it had worked...we would've saved other companies from losing their HDD space to an antiquated file system. The big bug in the

Assuming FreeDOS used a more efficient filesystem (e.g. FAT32), and/or the VM was capable of not writing the wasted slack space to the physical disk. Only one way to find out for sure. :)

room may have been the company not wanting their software running on
top of an open source project. Part of the same bug was if the software was being run on top of a license to only run with MS-DOS...that
would've been bad.

Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.


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On 02-26-20 14:25, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I could be wrong...but I think Remote Access & Searchlight ran Hudson

RA originally ran Hudson, but 2.0 introduced the JAM format. Once I upgraded to RA 2.0, I made all new messsage areas JAM and over time, migrated existing echos from Hudson to JAM. This dramatically reduced
the pressure on the HMB.

I feel very old that I didn't realize that. That would've been sweet
back in the day.

Yes, JAM was a real breath of fresh air. I've blown up many incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen, like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!


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incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your

Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part).

To think we've hit 2GB per base limit when we used to have 16MB for all
message bases back in the earlier 90s!

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Both of us are getting too old to be let out in public. ;)

If you go first I'll follow you... then we can both get lost together :)

Very brave man! Do I provide the gas mask or do you have one of your own. ;)

better. Had a rough night with the BS yesterday at work playing throu my mind.

Glad I could help, yeah work can be a pain sometimes so I totally get where you're coming from there.

Feeling better with the time I had off today. Just hope the same BS doesn't happen tomorrow.

next time you do login you can update it. Let me know if you wan

Oh yeah! Fantastic!

OK doing this now.

Will be looking there on Friday or tomorrow evening. Be watching another hour of Spooks on BritBox.

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I devolved into the file space FAT16 uses...no matter the software yo use.

Yeah, but without reference to the actual file size vs cluster size,
it's a bit less meaningful. Sure, we know there's going to be considerable "slack space" (as it was termed back in the day), but how serious that issue depends on the number of files on disk and the
average percentage of the file's last cluster used. A *.MSG messagebase

Much of my work was to daily going thru each of the drives to clear out old
MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.

Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.

Tried to do that as well at the station. Was a little harder to do 20 or so years ago...but today...it's almost a no-brainer.

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being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had to find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's PS couldn't
run both.

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On 02-27-20 11:37, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your

Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the
limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had
one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part).

Haha, that's a seriously huge JAM base! Especially since the majority of BBS messages are quite small.

To think we've hit 2GB per base limit when we used to have 16MB for all message bases back in the earlier 90s!

Yep, it's definitely a major change!


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On 02-26-20 22:09, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Much of my work was to daily going thru each of the drives to clear out old MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.

At least those files were large, so less slack space. But fragmentation would have been a big issue.

Yeah, that depends on the company. Some I've worked for would have been more than happy to use open source - afterall, I did introduce them to Linux, and we used Linux successfully for many years, while I was there.

Tried to do that as well at the station. Was a little harder to do 20
or so years ago...but today...it's almost a no-brainer.

I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew how to drive it. :)


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On 02-26-20 22:11, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had to find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's PS couldn't run both.

At least you couldn't blow up a Hudson messagebase on it. :D

My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.


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Its funny to see that. Now the issue with JAM is that it hits the limit of 2 gigabytes per base! And believe it or not I actually had one person hit that limit (which honestly was excessive on their part

Haha, that's a seriously huge JAM base! Especially since the majority
of BBS messages are quite small.

This particular person was pulling in Usenet newsgroups and had insane number of messages per base, in the 6-digit range. I am guessing they were not filtering binary posts too but who knows.

I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to up it
to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

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I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to
up it to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

It's 18446.74 Petabytes. Really big.

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I have a request if you think it could be done adding a command like (D3)
(DD) and so on. To change the drop file from unix to DOS and maybe even sends
it to dosemu or dosbox what do you think?

Instead of all this that I came up with just to be able to make more then
one node to work at the same time.

Thanks.....

First I want to thanks, Jim Howarth and also Andrew Pamment being I use some of both of their
instructions without these two men I would still be having sleepless nights try ng to figure
out dosemu & doors.

My autoexec.bat (in /home/username/.dosemu/drive_c/)

@echo off
break=off
path z:\bin;z:\gnu;z:\dosemu
set HELPPATH=z:\help
set TEMP=c:\tmp
prompt $P$G
lredir del d: > nul
lredir d: linux\fs/home/username/mystic/doors
unix -e

You want a dosemu.conf for calling the door, I use the same one for calling all my dos doors.

This is my dosemu.conf (in /home/username/mystic/doors/)

$_cpu = "80486"
$_cpu_emu = "vm86"
$_external_char_set = "utf8"
$_internal_char_set = "cp437"
$_term_updfreq = (8)
$_layout = "us"
$_rawkeyboard = (0)
$_com1 = "virtual"

Create a batch file that we will use to launch doorMUD from DOS.

@echo off
D:
CD \BNU
BNU /L0=11520
CD \DMUD
dmud /N%1 /DD:\TEMP%1
BNU /U
D:
CD \TEMP%1
DEL DOOR.SYS
exitemu

The script for running doorMUD, dmud.sh

#!/bin/bash
trap '' 2

todos < /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SYS > /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SY1
mv /home/bbs/mystic/temp$1/DOOR.SY1 /home/bbs/mystic/doors/temp$1/DOOR.SYS NODE=$1

/usr/bin/dosemu -quiet -f /home/username/mystic/doors/dosemu.conf -I "dosbanner 0" -E "D:\DMUD\DMUD.BAT ${NODE}" 2>/dev/null

trap 2

Adding the door to Mystic door menu

(DD) Exec external program

Data: /home/username/mystic/bash/dmud.sh %3
Folder can be whatever name you want.


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old MP2 files & defrag the drives between the live programming bits. Usually had about 10-15 minutes at the most to get it done at a time.

At least those files were large, so less slack space. But fragmentation would have been a big issue.

Oh yeah! We had 1 box which was networked which was used as a recorder. That was the worst one & never was able to totally defrag it from having been left alone for years before I got to it.

I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew
how to drive it. :)

Never had that chance...but we did get a mail server I recommended set up...along with using shoutcast to stream the signal to repeaters off sight.

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1st HDD was a 10 MB MFM full height drive I bought for $35 used. Had find another power supply to run just the drive because the system's couldn't run both.

At least you couldn't blow up a Hudson messagebase on it. :D

True. Remember when Squish could be used on Telegard/Renegade...that blew my mind away.

My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.

To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my media
server for about $150 US. ;)

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I have a request if you think it could be done adding a command like
(D3) (DD) and so on. To change the drop file from unix to DOS and maybe even sends it to dosemu or dosbox what do you think?

You can do this with the /DOS argument. For example, I launch dmud with:

Menu Command: DD
Args:
stty cols 80 rows 25 && dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "/doors/dmud/runmud.bat" %N /DOS

Note that the above args are all in one line and that your dosemu.conf shouldn't have the COM1 = virtual setting. This makes doing local testing of things much easier.

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You can do this with the /DOS argument. For example, I launch dmud with:

Menu Command: DD
Args:
stty cols 80 rows 25 && dosemu -I"serial { com 1 virtual }" "/doors/dmud/runmud.bat" %N /DOS

I tried that one a couple of times but ran into trouble with some multi
player game with two or more players in the door.


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On 02-27-20 18:08, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

This particular person was pulling in Usenet newsgroups and had insane number of messages per base, in the 6-digit range. I am guessing they were not filtering binary posts too but who knows.

Yeah I can see how he hit 2 GB, even without binaries. A million messages would only have to average 2kB each, which isn't hard with Internet headers intact.

I have a "JAM64" spec ready to go here for the day I decide we need to
up it to 18,446,744,073,709,551,615 bytes per base! I'm not even sure what that number is... lol

f'ing huge! :D I think that will allow JAM to handle serious message archiving. Storage would be the biggest issue after that spec is implemented. :)


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On 02-27-20 08:32, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Oh yeah! We had 1 box which was networked which was used as a recorder. That was the worst one & never was able to totally defrag it from
having been left alone for years before I got to it.

Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

I achieved it in 1997-1998. Had Linux in production by the end of 1997. :) The boss loved it, because it was legally free software, and I knew
how to drive it. :)

Never had that chance...but we did get a mail server I recommended set up...along with using shoutcast to stream the signal to repeaters off sight.

By the end of 1998, I had the following running on Linux in the office:

Web server, email gateway (forwarded to internal Exchange server), firewall/true DMZ with screening router and NAT router (both Linux boxes), dialin server for home workers and a branch office, VPN to the Sydney office. All those key systems ran Linux. Sydney also had its own firewall/DMZ setup running Linux. DNS was also hosted in house on the Linux boxes.

The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it, and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.


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On 02-27-20 08:34, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

True. Remember when Squish could be used on Telegard/Renegade...that
blew my mind away.

Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

My first HDD was a half height 10MB, second was a full height 20M drive.

To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my media server for about $150 US. ;)

Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)


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I tried that one a couple of times but ran into trouble with some multi player game with two or more players in the door.

I don't see how any of what you mentioned in your other post would address this...

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having been left alone for years before I got to it.

Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

In 2010...5 years after I left there...a print company accidentally burned
the strip mall to the ground. Don't know what they did after that other than rent more space in a big mall with tons of room. Probably still there.

The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it,
and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.

At the time...I was considering Linux or NT 4 to get certified in. Because I was able to find plenty of material/classes to get me through NT...chose that.

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Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my med server for about $150 US. ;)

Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)

Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that much memory. Will be reloading 10 next weekend when I get some free time to spend putting it back together.

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On 02-28-20 23:04, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

having been left alone for years before I got to it.

Ouch! That's nasty fragmentation!

In 2010...5 years after I left there...a print company accidentally
burned the strip mall to the ground. Don't know what they did after
that other than rent more space in a big mall with tons of room.
Probably still there.

Oops! :D

The Linux solution was more flexible than anything that preceeded it,
and it also put the company on the Internet permanently for the first time.

At the time...I was considering Linux or NT 4 to get certified in.
Because I was able to find plenty of material/classes to get me through NT...chose that.

I got NT4, and later, Windows 2000 certification, because we needed MCPs onsite to be a MCSP.

Another thing I did was setup an old 486 with Hylafax on Linux, fax modem and a spare laser printer as a plain paper fax receiver at a time when plain paper faxes were expensive. Conventional fax paper was expensive for the large volume of faxes that we were receiving at the time. The result was a reliable machine for incoming faxes that was cheap to run, and could handle a very high volume of faxes.


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On 02-28-20 23:10, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Never used anything that used Squish. My systems were RA which ran Hudson, and later, JAM.

Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

To think...several months ago I got an 8 TB external drive for my med server for about $150 US. ;)

Yeah storage is so cheap now. :)

Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB
sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that much memory. Will be reloading 10 next weekend when I get some free time to spend putting it back together.

Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)


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Probably still there.

Oops! :D

Think it was more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)

when plain paper faxes were expensive. Conventional fax paper was expensive for the large volume of faxes that we were receiving at the time. The result was a reliable machine for incoming faxes that was
cheap to run, and could handle a very high volume of faxes.

Remember getting the AP newsfeed which come with a teletype & having to use tractor feed paper. Collected a ton of this & used it to print off BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.

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Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

Oh yeah. You wouldn't believe how big of an improvement.

Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that mu

Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)

Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to be reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.

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On 02-29-20 19:13, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Probably still there.

Oops! :D

Think it was more like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)

Reference lost on me, I rarely have time to watch random vids.

Remember getting the AP newsfeed which come with a teletype & having to use tractor feed paper. Collected a ton of this & used it to print off
BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.

Ahh, tractor feed. :)


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On 02-29-20 19:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Had to upgrade Telegard to be able to move from *.MSG to Squish.

Ahh OK, Squish would have been a huge improvement. :)

Oh yeah. You wouldn't believe how big of an improvement.

I can imagine!

Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 GB sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with that mu

Nice, My biggest systems only have 8GB. 16 would be nice, 32 better. :)

Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland
area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to be reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.

Cool, enjoy. :)


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Think it was more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKTQLCwy8k8 ;)

Reference lost on me, I rarely have time to watch random vids.

;) Just got off a stint which had me up at 3:30 AM when my Google Home Mini went off for me to get up to get to work by 5:30. When it went off...thought
a fire alarm was going off & asked it where the fire was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funny it I'd asked it if I'd reached
88 MPH yet.

BBS docs years later on the other side. Saved a ton of money & trees reusing that old newsprint.

Ahh, tractor feed. :)

Started off taking my term papers over to a friend in the dorm with a
Commodore printer...which was tractor feed. Add to that...I had a job in the computer lab which had me changing paper/ribbons on 1 of those giant monsters running green/white tractor feed paper. Not even sure if we could find
tractor feed paper anymore.

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Ordered 16 GB of DDR3 this evening for $65 from Amazon. Got 2 8 sticks of Corsair 1066. Will be nice to see what happens with th

Got the message they shipped it out this morning out of the Portland area & will be here tomorrow. With 2 days off in a row...am going to reloading 10 with 16 GB of memory.

Cool, enjoy. :)

Just got finished putting it in & having to reposition my processor tower cooler the other direction for the memory to fit. Didn't have to reload
Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I get ArcaOS
running on the new system.

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On 03-01-20 21:33, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

;) Just got off a stint which had me up at 3:30 AM when my Google Home Mini went off for me to get up to get to work by 5:30. When it went off...thought a fire alarm was going off & asked it where the fire was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funny
it I'd asked it if I'd reached 88 MPH yet.

Oh dear. :) And yes, 88 mph would have been funny. :D You couldn't be too sure _when_ you ended up! :D

Started off taking my term papers over to a friend in the dorm with a Commodore printer...which was tractor feed. Add to that...I had a job
in the computer lab which had me changing paper/ribbons on 1 of those giant monsters running green/white tractor feed paper. Not even sure if
we could find tractor feed paper anymore.

I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.


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On 03-01-20 21:35, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Just got finished putting it in & having to reposition my processor
tower cooler the other direction for the memory to fit. Didn't have to reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I get ArcaOS running on the new system.

Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.


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was...so I might be able to sleep thru it. ;) Would've been more funn it I'd asked it if I'd reached 88 MPH yet.

Oh dear. :) And yes, 88 mph would have been funny. :D You couldn't be too sure _when_ you ended up! :D

1 thing...would've had to try to call into work to not get a no call/no show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no
reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

Was pricey before...but now...

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reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I ge ArcaOS running on the new system.

Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

Worked on it last night & got it to go to the desktop wallpaper...but no further. Got some more work to do...but from what I've seen...brings back to old days of solving issues.

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On 03-03-20 08:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

1 thing...would've had to try to call into work to not get a no call/no show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I
find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

Was pricey before...but now...

You found a supplier? ;)


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On 03-03-20 08:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

reload Windows & the system flies!!! May reload it tomorrow...if I ge ArcaOS running on the new system.

Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. Will be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

Worked on it last night & got it to go to the desktop wallpaper...but
no further. Got some more work to do...but from what I've seen...brings back to old days of solving issues.

Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year. :)


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show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

Small item to deal with. ;)

I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

Was pricey before...but now...

You found a supplier? ;)

Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

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Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. W be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year.

Would be nice if several of us started running boards under ArcaOS. Gonna
spend some more time this evening trying to get it setup. Even ended up
buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs into to keep
them in 1 place & safe.

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Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

Please don't become the millionaire. I beg of you.

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Well said. Couldn't have put it better myself.

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On 03-03-20 18:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

show from wherever it was I ended up. They do it in Doctor Who...so I find no reason why I couldn't do it. ;)

You got someone to tweak your cellphone with a sonic screwdriver? ;)

Small item to deal with. ;)

And a time lord to wield it. :D

I haven't seen tractor feed paper for a while. Maybe some specialist place has it.

Was pricey before...but now...

You found a supplier? ;)

Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

Haha good one. :D


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On 03-03-20 18:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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You had a lot to say on this one. ;)


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On 03-03-20 18:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Cool, the fun stuff! :) I might buy a copy of ArcaOS myself soon. W be a good platform to resurrect my old DOS based systems.

Cool, more fun to be had. :) Might be playing with it later this year.

Would be nice if several of us started running boards under ArcaOS.
Gonna spend some more time this evening trying to get it setup. Even
ended up buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs
into to keep them in 1 place & safe.

That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)


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Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

Please don't become the millionaire. I beg of you.

One of the things I learned in my divorce is the difference between AND/OR.
As for this brat...don't care how much money it claims to have...will never become it. On the other hand...I love being here in all the echoes & don't
ever want to be on any twit list. I do have some human DNA...like cats/dogs...but when it kicks either one...that's how it's the person it is now.

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Well said. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Am extremely proud of every network this board is a member of & talk about it with co-workers & customers.

Funny...I tried the @RANDOM tag on the tagline. Didn't work...so I switched
it back to a more funny one.

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Small item to deal with. ;)

And a time lord to wield it. :D

The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's not out there. ;)

Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox & the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.

Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

Haha good one. :D

Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business to Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

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You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

Always have to have the last word. ;)

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ended up buying some cheap cardboard binders today to put all my docs into to keep them in 1 place & safe.

That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it
up. :)

Was over on the OS/2 echo this evening & it was mentioned that eventually
there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.

Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a native version. Not sure if it will happen...but if it does...will look at it...especially if it runs under Mint.

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Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox &
the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect
from being killed by an environmental group.

That is one of my top 10 favorite shows. I have rewatched every episode at least 3 times.

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Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox

That is one of my top 10 favorite shows. I have rewatched every episode
at least 3 times.

2nd time watching it here. Wished they were running the new version with Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.

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That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)

I'd be in on that... I think EleBBS runs ok on eComStation

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2nd time watching it here. Wished they were running the new version with Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.

I really should get a BritBox sub.

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On 03-03-20 20:19, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Small item to deal with. ;)

And a time lord to wield it. :D

The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's not out there. ;)

Yep. :)

Funny thing about that episode...am binging on Spooks/MI5 on Britbox &
the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect
from being killed by an environmental group.

Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

Me with a stapler/tape...on my way to becoming a millionaire. ;)

Haha good one. :D

Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business to Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)


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On 03-03-20 20:20, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

Always have to have the last word. ;)

Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)


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On 03-03-20 20:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Was over on the OS/2 echo this evening & it was mentioned that
eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version
1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's

Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2.
It looks great & runs pretty good.

Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a native version. Not sure if it will happen...but if it does...will look
at it...especially if it runs under Mint.

I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)


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On 03-04-20 15:59, apam wrote to Vk3jed <=-

That would be cool. Time to select some OS/2 BBS software and set it up. :)

I'd be in on that... I think EleBBS runs ok on eComStation

Cool, quite a few choices. :)


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Georgia Moffit when they exploded a nuke in London.

I really should get a BritBox sub.

The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode of the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For instance...wanted to watch the last episode of the 1st Doctor with the Cybermen...but it was missing. Wanted to watch the one where the 2nd meets Jaime...missing. Believe there are more missing episodes for the 2nd than the first.

On the other hand...Acorn has stuff from all over the world...but had to pick
1 & went with Classic Doctor Who.

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The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's n out there. ;)

Yep. :)

You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while her
husband is the 10th.

the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.

Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

Very much so.

Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)

It's on the opposite side away from China...so I should be good to go. ;)

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fsxNet/WWIVNet/SciNet/AmigaNet/VKRadio/FidoNet/MicroNet.

You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

Always have to have the last word. ;)

Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

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eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's

Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

Mystic.

Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.

Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a

I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)

Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking
in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

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The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode of
the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For instance...wanted to watch the last episode of the 1st Doctor with the Cybermen...but it was missing. Wanted to watch the one where the 2nd
meets Jaime...missing. Believe there are more missing episodes for the
2nd than the first.

I know that the BBC is missing a lot of the original episodes. Seem that in
the 80s they decided to re-use the stock that those episodes were on. I know they sent letters to all of the affiliate TV networks across the world who showed Dr Who back in the day hoping that they still had copies. They did recoup some of the lost ones but there are still a few missing.

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On 03-04-20 09:17, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

The Doctor's daughter lifted off in that rocket...so who says she's n out there. ;)

Yep. :)

You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while her husband is the 10th.

Is that incestuous or what? ;)

the old leader of the humans was a professor who they had to protect from being killed by an environmental group.

Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

Very much so.

Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

Gives me a corner on the market. If only I can outsource my business Bangladesh...will be raking it in like crazy.

Yeah, well as long as you don't use China for manufacturing. ;)

It's on the opposite side away from China...so I should be good to go.
;)

Good move. ;)


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On 03-04-20 09:18, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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You had a lot to say on this one. ;)

Always have to have the last word. ;)

Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)


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On 03-04-20 09:20, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

eventually there may be OS/2/FreeBSD versions out. Have found version 1.07 in some file areas...but after taking a look at Razor's

Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

Mystic.

Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

Domain/2...he's running the most recent version of Telegard for OS/2. It looks great & runs pretty good.

Interesting. Yeah, I will have to find out what's out there, once I get ArcaOS up.

There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

Have even heard rumblings of getting Renegade to run under Linux in a

I've already got too many choices for Linux. ;)

Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)



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The thing about it which irks me is I wanted to watch every episode o the first 2 Doctors...but they are either missing or don't exist. For

I know that the BBC is missing a lot of the original episodes. Seem that in the 80s they decided to re-use the stock that those episodes were on.

They did find some in places like Argentina & such.

The main thing I'm nagging about it is I have seen some of these episodes...such as the final one with the 2nd Doctor where he's forced to regenerate as a punishment. Nothing on BritBox's site about this...other than check back later. Would like to know if these episodes are the ones they
erased or holding back on.

I know they sent letters to all of the affiliate TV networks across the world who showed Dr Who back in the day hoping that they still had
copies. They did recoup some of the lost ones but there are still a few

Am on the 5th season of MI5/Spooks. They don't have any of the Richard
Armitage episodes showing or the last episodes where Ruth gets killed. You would think owning the shows...they could put them all up there. On the other hand...have heard some of the early Vera episodes are not available either.

Even with my nagging...being able to watch British TV makes me feel less like Homer Simpson & one of the Elders of the Internet who wanted to make sure
Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetized the Internet. ;)

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Even with my nagging...being able to watch British TV makes me feel less like Homer Simpson & one of the Elders of the Internet who wanted to
make sure Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetized the Internet. ;)

Funny, most days I feel like Richmond.

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You could say she's Doctor X2. Her father is the 5th Doctor...while h husband is the 10th.

Is that incestuous or what? ;)

Not even going there...since I could dig that hole faster than either of us
can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for at work since
my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

On a serious note...was thinking about what happened with my last girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work. Damn the past being
so vivid from that era!

Hmm, that could be interesting in the context of today's political climate. :)

Very much so.

Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them. ;)

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Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

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Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

Mystic.

Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

You better believe it. Many of the parts we're used to are not there. Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not the same software.

There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

Personally...as long as the BBS is 2K compliant...doesn't really bother me.
Add in all the other stuff we now have to make it FDN functional...not that
bad of a choice at all. We get lucky...these other parts may be more
up-to-date than most of the other software being used.

Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)

It's not Linux...but here's something I tried to use before using Mystic: https://tinyurl.com/tks5pa9 . Now...here's something for Linux: https://tinyurl.com/vknrlnd . It's a start of many links I have when I was doing research.

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make sure Jen's speech went well...especially The Hawk who demagnetiz the Internet. ;)

Funny, most days I feel like Richmond.

Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem...as
long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)

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Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem...as long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)

Cradle of Filth!

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Ah...you like Absinthe & blondes with low self esteem. Not a problem. long as I have loud enough music to cover both of you up. ;)

Cradle of Filth!

You got me good. Almost blew up my monitor when I was drinking a soda & saw that. I was not expecting that.

Just make sure you have daddy there with his mother & wear the top hat with
the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.

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You got me good. Almost blew up my monitor when I was drinking a soda & Just make sure you have daddy there with his mother & wear the top hat with the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.

Easily one of the funniest TV shows ever made. It should be required watching for any sysop who joins SciNet.

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On 03-04-20 18:41, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Is that incestuous or what? ;)

Not even going there...since I could dig that hole faster than either
of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for at work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

On a serious note...was thinking about what happened with my last girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work.
Damn the past being so vivid from that era!

Hmm, bummer about that. :(

Yep, though these days the environmental group is the one that needs protecting. ;)

As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them.
;)

:)



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On 03-04-20 18:42, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Haha in sign? Not the best language for BBSing. ;)

ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P


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On 03-04-20 18:51, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Hmm, what BBS software? You didn't say...

Mystic.

Ahh, OK, that would look primitive compared to 1.12A46. :)

You better believe it. Many of the parts we're used to are not there.
Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not the same software.

I bet, Mystic has certainly come a long way even since 1.12 (before the
lphas).

There's plenty available...as long as you don't mind it not being currently updated.

Yeah I think I'll probably have to live with that. :)

Personally...as long as the BBS is 2K compliant...doesn't really bother me. Add in all the other stuff we now have to make it FDN
functional...not that bad of a choice at all. We get lucky...these
other parts may be more up-to-date than most of the other software
being used.

Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

Add to that you can run Renegade of any DOS BBS software with some tweaking in DOSBox or DOSEMU.

You'll have fun trying to get DOSEMU working on my BBS system. ;)

It's not Linux...but here's something I tried to use before using
Mystic: https://tinyurl.com/tks5pa9 . Now...here's something for Linux: https://tinyurl.com/vknrlnd . It's a start of many links I have when I
was doing research.

You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)


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with the makeup. Guess the scurvy comes next...with from Goth to Boss next.

Easily one of the funniest TV shows ever made. It should be required watching for any sysop who joins SciNet.

Have the whole run on my phone & watch it over & over on my lunch break.
Don't care what type of day I've had...just have to get hold of the Joker
from Friendface & then get Renholm to go out with her or think she's from
Iran. Getting someone to kiss me around my cleftal horizon is just icing on
the cake.

BTW...was reading something a while ago that Linahan is going to be bring the show back. Haven't heard anything more than that...but he promised the magic will be there again.

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of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

If only I would be that lucky!

girlfriend for much of the day. What a f***ed up day to be at work. Damn the past being so vivid from that era!

Hmm, bummer about that. :(

Was expecting all my meds in the mail yesterday & they didn't arrive...so wasn't able to take 1. Had a very vivid dream I was out in the California desert at some of the truck stops on the highway. Jack Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)

As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them ;)

The idiot should replace them with pink/rainbow colored ones. Then make sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

Yes...you guys gave the world one of the funniest movies in existence. If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same
costume. ;)

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ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P

Going back to the 80's...It's in the Way That You Use It!

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Nice to see what Mystic was & has become. It's almost like it's not t same software.

I bet, Mystic has certainly come a long way even since 1.12 (before the lphas).

Very true.

Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was 2014!
Will be looking more closely at it.

You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)

True...used to run it & loved it. On the other hand...there are several OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined to run.

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On 03-05-20 07:59, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

of us can jump into it. ;) This is something I have to watch out for work since my mouth & proclivities could get me into serious trouble around those like Millionaire.

Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :D

If only I would be that lucky!

I think it already is going south rather quickly. There's a heap of lines there. ;)

Was expecting all my meds in the mail yesterday & they didn't
arrive...so wasn't able to take 1. Had a very vivid dream I was out in
the California desert at some of the truck stops on the highway. Jack Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too
young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)

Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good selection in your head! ;)

As long as they don't wear red hats...more than happy to protect them ;)

The idiot should replace them with pink/rainbow colored ones. Then make sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

Yes...you guys gave the world one of the funniest movies in existence.
If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing
the same costume. ;)

Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.



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On 03-05-20 08:00, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

ANSI does have a sound component...so there you go. ;)

Hmm, how are you going to get sign language accurately in ASCII? ;)

You should be asking how big the font is I'm going to use. ;)

Hmm, I don't care about the size of your font. It's how well you use it that matters! ;P

Going back to the 80's...It's in the Way That You Use It!

Exactly! :D


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On 03-05-20 08:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Uep, basically as long as it can work under current 2020 conditions, either directly, or with a little help.

Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was
2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

You're definitely fixated on Renegade. There's some hoops I wouldn't bother jumping through. If I wanted to put an old DOS BBS online, I'd probably go with ArcaOS. :)

True...used to run it & loved it. On the other hand...there are several OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined to run.

My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)


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On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
"Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable (that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

Is there another version?

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On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
"Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable

(that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

Is there another version?

lora232 i think was his last version was it not?

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Haha sounds like it would go south quicker than a homesick penguin! :

If only I would be that lucky!

I think it already is going south rather quickly. There's a heap of
lines there. ;)

Remember I was working for the stations @ Xmas time back in '96. Stood
outside of a big chain drug store in Arizona ringing a bell. Talk about
lines. Never say so many shopping carts filled up with booze (sometimes
pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going to
ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)

Nicholson was there...along with many from like Easy Rider. Was too young for the free love movement...except in that dream! ;)

Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good
selection in your head! ;)

It was ultra realistic. Haven't had a dream like that in a while. The next
day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession for the Outback. ;)

If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same costume. ;)

Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.

Know it's a chick flick...but loved Muriel's Wedding. Even ended up with a
copy of Mad Max I was able to get the "native" language dialog to
play...rather than the BS one they put on it for the US...because "we" are
too stupid to understand anything spoken without a Southern accent. You look
on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is on there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.

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Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2
& see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined t run.

My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)

Had a good buddy who loved it back in the day. In terms of running RA...there is EleBBS which may/may not be updated. The file names are looking the same
for every version as the OS/2 version. From what I was reading...that would
be the closest we can get.

BTW...found out how to open the case of the ThinkCentre. Just a laptop MB
with a micro-desktop case. Replaced the 8 GB SSD with a 1 TB laptop drive I
had previously played around with RetroPie on. Took forever to get ArcaOS to format/load the drive...but have done it. Next...may get an 8 GB stick of memory for $30 US to add to the Samsung stick already in there. Same memory & with 2 slots...Arca should run anything else I have into the ground.

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Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

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g00r00 wrote to Phoobar <=-

Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported
to ArcaOS.

I saw this over on Fido :)

Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

Yeah, would be nice if you did :)


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As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

I saw this over on Fido :)

It'd be a lot of work for a small reward (like 1 or 2 people would probably play with it a bit and no one would use it). At least thats my assumption.

I have install.exe, mplc.exe, mide.exe, and mystic.exe all compiling now although only install.exe and mplc.exe actually work.

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On 03-07-20 17:08, Oli wrote to Vk3jed <=-

On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 21:01:00 +1100
"Vk3jed -> Phoobar" <0@109.1.21> wrote:

Was looking at Lora before going to bed last night. Last update
was 2014! Will be looking more closely at it.

Only 6 years, post binkp era by the sounds of it.

I think that is just the old source code from the 90s:

Ahh, OK.

https://github.com/maccasoft/lora2
https://github.com/maccasoft/lora3

AFAIK Lora 2.xx is the better version, because Lora 3 is a bit unstable (that is what I read. I tried to run it, but failed).

Is there another version?

I hadn't heard of Lora, so no idea.


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On 03-07-20 12:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Remember I was working for the stations @ Xmas time back in '96. Stood outside of a big chain drug store in Arizona ringing a bell. Talk about lines. Never say so many shopping carts filled up with booze (sometimes pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going to ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)

Sounds like olver here. ;)

Hmm, OK. Sounds like you don't need the cinema, you have a good
selection in your head! ;)

It was ultra realistic. Haven't had a dream like that in a while. The
next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb
like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

sure they all have wives like in Priscilla Queen of the Desert with "special" talents...be the perfect match of art meeting life. ;)

Haha I'll pass on that. ;)

Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession
for the Outback. ;)

Umm, pass. :P

If only his role in the Matrix/Marvel movies would've had him wearing the same costume. ;)

Yeah, we have a lot of good movies here, many quirky.

Know it's a chick flick...but loved Muriel's Wedding. Even ended up

Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

with a copy of Mad Max I was able to get the "native" language dialog
to play...rather than the BS one they put on it for the US...because
"we" are too stupid to understand anything spoken without a Southern accent. You look on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is on there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.

Oh dear, it's THAT bad over there? Obviously, it's a non issue here, being a locally produced movie. :)


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On 03-07-20 12:32, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07
for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a
totally different beast than what is current.

And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

OS/2 packages with all-iin-one like Mystic I would be more inclined t run.

My background was RA, and running a RA board under OS/2 DOS would bring back a lot of memories, but native OS/2 would be best. :)

Had a good buddy who loved it back in the day. In terms of running RA...there is EleBBS which may/may not be updated. The file names are looking the same for every version as the OS/2 version. From what I was reading...that would be the closest we can get.

I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking a
ook.

BTW...found out how to open the case of the ThinkCentre. Just a laptop
MB with a micro-desktop case. Replaced the 8 GB SSD with a 1 TB laptop drive I had previously played around with RetroPie on. Took forever to
get ArcaOS to format/load the drive...but have done it. Next...may get
an 8 GB stick of memory for $30 US to add to the Samsung stick already
in there. Same memory & with 2 slots...Arca should run anything else I have into the ground.

That'll be a nice setup! :)


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Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 for OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totally different beast than what is current.

And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

I just spent a lot of hours on it (the past 7 hours or so) and its nowhere near functional, but I can open the configuration and do local logins to the BBS now. When I first got the BBS to compile just about nothing worked, so its been a long road so far.

But now at least from a local login most of the BBS functions work except Mystic Python (although MPL is fine) and the msg/file index readers. I think I have everything else going though including all of the multinode stuff.

Nodespy compiles now too but I haven't even bothered trying that yet.

The hardest parts remain. Besides the general debugging I have to get all of the server, threading, local I/O, SSL and socket code all working in OS2. This isn't small task and will take a lot of research of API and trial and error,
so it may be something I never finish. But for the most part "MIS" is the
only thing remaining to port and get working.

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On 03-08-20 15:18, g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I just spent a lot of hours on it (the past 7 hours or so) and its
nowhere near functional, but I can open the configuration and do local logins to the BBS now. When I first got the BBS to compile just about nothing worked, so its been a long road so far.

I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.

Nodespy compiles now too but I haven't even bothered trying that yet.

The hardest parts remain. Besides the general debugging I have to get
all of the server, threading, local I/O, SSL and socket code all
working in OS2. This isn't small task and will take a lot of research
of API and trial and error, so it may be something I never finish. But for the most part "MIS" is the only thing remaining to port and get working.

The only bit, but the hardest. :) Hopefully I'll be in a position to test soon, but if it never happens, no biggie.


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g00r00 wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

I saw this over on Fido :)

It'd be a lot of work for a small reward (like 1 or 2 people would probably play with it a bit and no one would use it). At least thats
my assumption.

I have install.exe, mplc.exe, mide.exe, and mystic.exe all compiling
now although only install.exe and mplc.exe actually work.

Well, if you would like someone to test it all, I would be willing to
help out in that endeavor.

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g00r00 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

But now at least from a local login most of the BBS functions work
except Mystic Python (although MPL is fine) and the msg/file index readers. I think I have everything else going though including all of
the multinode stuff.

Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
one is available.

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Vk3jed wrote to g00r00 <=-

I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.

Same here!

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On 08 Mar 20 13:51:00, Robert Wolfe said the following to G00R00:

Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
one is available.

Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

Atreyu

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Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

That was the best one yet.

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On 03-08-20 13:52, Robert Wolfe wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Vk3jed wrote to g00r00 <=-

I'm definitely going to have to at least run a test point on OS/2 or ArcaOS, given the amount of hard work you've done on this.

Same here!

And there looks like workable proxy options for the lack of IPv6 support in the OS/2 family.


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On 03-08-20 16:31, Atreyu wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

On 08 Mar 20 13:51:00, Robert Wolfe said the following to G00R00:

Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
one is available.

Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

Haha! :D


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Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07 OS/2 & see what can be done with it. Looked at 1.05 & it was a totall

As I mentioned in some other areas, I have some of Mystic 1.12 ported to ArcaOS.

Work has been a bear lately. Boss loves me...since I do work myself silly
many times while others mess around. Means I have a hard time staying awake
to read/understand what's going on.

Not sure if I will finish it, but some things are working like the MPL script compiler, the installation utility and so on.

That's great news!!! Sounds like you're pretty far along with it. Need any
help with it...am more than happy to help you. One good thing is relearning OS/2 is bringing back the reasons why I fell in love with it back in the mid-90's.

Just took out the 8 GB SSD drive out of the ThinkCentre & put in a 1 TB drive
I had been playing around with RetroPie last year. Took forever to format/install ArcaOS...but it does run. I put an extra 8 GB memory on the board...it will fly. That means will have plenty of space for any/everything
on there. Will use the SSD with the Pi Zero for other projects.

Thanks again for the update.

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pulling 2 of them as well) as I did there. Either someone was going t ho-ho-ho or hoe--hoe--hoe for some Xmas cheer. ;)

Sounds like olver here. ;)

;) That's if they can stand up or here in the Northern hemisphere not passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.

next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I usually do.

BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones will allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.

Ah...c'mon! Know you would love to have the ping pong ball concession for the Outback. ;)

Umm, pass. :P

;)

Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught
a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves Sharon. Closest
thing to it was How Not to Live Your Life from the BBC.

accent. You look on my media server...the patched Mad Max is what is there. To hell with anyone else who can't/won't understand English.

Oh dear, it's THAT bad over there? Obviously, it's a non issue here, being a locally produced movie. :)

Oh yeah! They did that before releasing it in the cinemas here. Another local one from South Africa that I saw many times before getting it on DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.

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Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07

And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind on big news...since it seems like no matter how much I sleep...I'm still exhausted...so don't have as much time I would like.

One good thing is my boss talked to me the past couple of days. Seems like
they are going to be doing some cutting for those just there to p/u a
paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up there compared to the gold brickers.

I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking
a ook.

Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system right now.

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Mystic Python? Why not just use the OS/2 port of Python? I believe
one is available.

Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

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On 03-08-20 21:00, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

;) That's if they can stand up or here in the Northern hemisphere not passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the
snow during the Middle Ages.

Hrmm....

next day though...I paid for the postal service by have my head throb like crazy. Was VERY lucky I held it together.

Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I
usually do.

Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones will allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.

That sounds rather useful, actually! :)

Yes, that was a really good movie. But for quirky, movies like "Last train to Freo" will keep you guessing. :) Coincidentally, I have caught
a train to and from Freo (Fremantle), though during the day, rather than near midnight. :)

Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was
Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves
Sharon. Closest thing to it was How Not to Live Your Life from the BBC.

Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

Oh yeah! They did that before releasing it in the cinemas here. Another local one from South Africa that I saw many times before getting it on
DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog
for it.

Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/


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On 03-08-20 21:05, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Over on the OS/2 echo on Fido...there is talk of getting Mystic 1.07

And g00r00 has already had a play with porting parts of the current version of Mystic, and has mplc working under OS/2. :)

He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind on big news...since it seems like no matter how much I sleep...I'm still exhausted...so don't have as much time I would like.

Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

One good thing is my boss talked to me the past couple of days. Seems
like they are going to be doing some cutting for those just there to
p/u a paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up there compared to the gold brickers.

They're clearing out some of the dead wood? ;) Sounds good.

I think it's been years since EleBBS was updated, but still worth taking
a ook.

Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates
from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system right now.

Cool. :)


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On 03-08-20 21:08, Phoobar wrote to Atreyu <=-

Pfffffft. He needs to release Mystic Python and the Holy Grail.

As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)


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passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.

Hrmm....

Just found out the most famous one was King Henry kneeling to Pope Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...but I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)

Yeah haven't had one of those dreams for ages, but I can imagine! :)

Was very lucky nothing bad happened to me not having the levels I usually do.

Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor about it tomorrow.

Have noticed the past few days...the woozy head hasn't been happening.

BTW...found a use for old medicine bottles. The normal sized ones wil allow you to put 2 USB thumb drives in there & put on the lid.

That sounds rather useful, actually! :)

It is because it keeps them together & out of harm's way. Am a firm believer
in Murphy's Law. Got tons of them...since my state health care plan only
allows me to get 30 days worth of meds at a time.

Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves

Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

If I remember right...the character is dying & wants to get to Darwin to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him to die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it in the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.

DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.

Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/

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He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind

Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...no matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of the package.

Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work
sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time.

p/u a paycheck. He loves me & is going to try to keep my hours up the compared to the gold brickers.

They're clearing out some of the dead wood? ;) Sounds good.

May eventually end up with a FT position. Gonna apply for it next time it
comes up. Two of us are around the same age...with the rest of them in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do...as long as I get
my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're seeing who does what.

Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system rig now.

Cool. :)

They allow you to install it from DOS or Windows...but not exactly sure how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but
their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.

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As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

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On 03-09-20 15:48, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

passing out trying to do a bad recreation of the king kneeling in the snow during the Middle Ages.

Hrmm....

Just found out the most famous one was King Henry kneeling to Pope
Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...but
I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)

Have to ask the other half about that, he's the historian in this house. ;)

Not quite sure what you mean there. :)

Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was
feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor about
it tomorrow.

Hmm OK, I'm still getting fragmented information, which I don't handle well - what meds?

It is because it keeps them together & out of harm's way. Am a firm believer in Murphy's Law. Got tons of them...since my state health care plan only allows me to get 30 days worth of meds at a time.

Oh, OK.

Will look for it! One of the better flicks I saw a few years ago was Last Cab to Darwin. My favorite comedy still has to be Mark Loves

Not sure if I've seen Last Cab. Kinda rings a bell. :)

If I remember right...the character is dying & wants to get to Darwin
to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him to die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it in the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.

Rings a bell. :)

DVD was The Gods Must be Crazy. Not sure if they redubbed the dialog for it.

Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/

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On 03-09-20 16:01, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

He left me a message about it which made me smile. Hate being behind

Cool re OS/2. And bummer about tired.

That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...no matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of
the package.

Yes, good news. Iy may never totally happen, but at least he's open to exploring the idea.

Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time.

I know I couldn't do it.

May eventually end up with a FT position. Gonna apply for it next time
it comes up. Two of us are around the same age...with the rest of them
in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do...as long as I get my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're
seeing who does what.

Good luck, sounds like you deserve to go FT. :)

Oh yeah! Found out last night the ThinkCentre has some BIOS updates from 2018...rather than the ones on there from 2013 on the system rig now.

Cool. :)

They allow you to install it from DOS or Windows...but not exactly sure how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.

Hmm, OK. Something to think about. :D



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On 03-09-20 16:02, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of Life.

Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*


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Gregory in 1077. Thought it was something around the year 800 AD...bu I WAS MISTAKEN. ;)

Have to ask the other half about that, he's the historian in this house. ;)

Expected to find something else when I looked it up on Google. I hate getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

Having missed that 1 med for the day...the levels were down & was feeling it much worse than normal. Will be talking to the doctor abou it tomorrow.

Hmm OK, I'm still getting fragmented information, which I don't handle well - what meds?

Was an anti-depressant. Am going to head over to my appointment in about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the ride. Am binging
a program shot in your neck of the woods in the early 90's called Time Trax. The main character rides a Harley & says he loves the feel of the breeze on
his face. Same thing here.

to I think see an old lover or a child. The ones around him want him die in the town in the Outback. Love Call the Midwife & would put it the same type of category of a movie everyone needs to see.

Rings a bell. :)

It's gotten to the point I come across anything with AUS in the listing...I have to watch it. That & the BBC are about the only thing I usually watch. Another show I'm watching as well is Death in Paradise. Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

Hmm, ruining movies to dumb them down. :/

Welcome to American Exceptionalism!

Haha apparently so. :)

I feel kind of less educated when I watch something & I have to look up the slang. For instance...Mrs. Brown's Boys takes place in Ireland...but still
need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.

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That message was from a group I hadn't read yet. Still great news...n matter where I hear it...but the best when coming from the author of the package.

Yes, good news. Iy may never totally happen, but at least he's open to exploring the idea.

Got it downloaded last night & installed it. No problems with that. Logged on
& forgot the system didn't have my files from here...so copied them over to a USB drive & it won't read it. Something I'm looking into when I have the time.

To give you an idea of what happens...you open Mystic...up pops the logon screen as a PM. Even looks better than on Windows. Get the USB issue figured out...am going to take a complete look at it. Just from what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has outdone himself.

Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time

I know I couldn't do it.

One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that helps out.

in their early 20's. Personally...don't care what they do/don't do... long as I get my job done. Have a feeling I'm on camera & they're seeing who does what.

Good luck, sounds like you deserve to go FT. :)

Been there 2 years. One thing which bothers me is anything like this will not happen if the economy here goes south.

how they want you to do it. Usually...you can make a bootable DOS stick...but their ISO isn't bootable...unlike the others I've done.

Hmm, OK. Something to think about. :D

Got it done last night. Formatted a USB card reader as FAT16 & booted the ThinkCentre into DOS. Still not able to do the upgrade...pulled out the
reader & put it on my main system & moved the files to the root. Put it back
in & restarted the box. Everything went automatically like it was supposed
to. Now...got a BIOS update which is current & less than 2 years old. Even my MSI board on my main system doesn't provide BIOS upgrades after a year or so.

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As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of

Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*

For 1979...was amazed they allowed those scenes to stay in.

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On 03-10-20 11:21, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Expected to find something else when I looked it up on Google. I hate getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

Was an anti-depressant. Am going to head over to my appointment in
about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the

Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed (on the track) for my mental health.

ride. Am binging a program shot in your neck of the woods in the early 90's called Time Trax. The main character rides a Harley & says he
loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.

Cool, that I can understand. :)

It's gotten to the point I come across anything with AUS in the listing...I have to watch it. That & the BBC are about the only thing I usually watch. Another show I'm watching as well is Death in Paradise. Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

Yes, you have good taste. :)

I feel kind of less educated when I watch something & I have to look up the slang. For instance...Mrs. Brown's Boys takes place in
Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the
slang means.

But you're educating yourself. :)


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On 03-10-20 11:30, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

To give you an idea of what happens...you open Mystic...up pops the
logon screen as a PM. Even looks better than on Windows. Get the USB
issue figured out...am going to take a complete look at it. Just from
what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has
outdone himself.

Sounds quite good! :) Definitely one to play with at some stage. Have to get a PC running ArcaOS first. That in turn is waiting on some money to come in, which is due any day.

Always have this problem...especially with my schedule. Shift work sucks...but at least I'm making more money than I have in a long time

I know I couldn't do it.

One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that
helps out.

Unfortunately I have a body clock that doesn't like being tinkered with. :/

Been there 2 years. One thing which bothers me is anything like this
will not happen if the economy here goes south.

That's all hanging in the balance right now, though today didn't look so bad here. I might be doing my little bit to help the tourism economy too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

Got it done last night. Formatted a USB card reader as FAT16 & booted
the ThinkCentre into DOS. Still not able to do the upgrade...pulled out the reader & put it on my main system & moved the files to the root.
Put it back in & restarted the box. Everything went automatically like
it was supposed to. Now...got a BIOS update which is current & less
than 2 years old. Even my MSI board on my main system doesn't provide
BIOS upgrades after a year or so.

Sounds like you're good to go. :)


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On 03-10-20 11:31, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

As long as the next version is Life of Mystic...then Meaning of

Of course, that's how it has to be done. ;)

Gotta look on the Bright Side of Life. ;)

And get to know Biggus Dickus? *snicker*

For 1979...was amazed they allowed those scenes to stay in.

LOL yep. :D


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getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

YET!!

about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the

Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed
(on the track) for my mental health.

Mine's from defective genes. Runs in the family from bad brain chemistry.

loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.

Cool, that I can understand. :)

Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.

Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

Yes, you have good taste. :)

I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.

But you're educating yourself. :)

Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

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what I saw...it blows away everything I was expecting. G00R00 has outdone himself.

to get a PC running ArcaOS first. That in turn is waiting on some money to come in, which is due any day.

As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of information out there on how to set it up. If you can find a used PC like I did...that would be the way to go...but if not...run it on VB.

One good thing is I usually get shifts in the swing shift...so that helps out.

Unfortunately I have a body clock that doesn't like being tinkered with.

Don't like different shifts...but got my fingers crossed that my shifts will
be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the time...since I will be used to it.

too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

Have done very little travel in the past 20 years. With the way things
are...if I left the country would try like hell on not coming back.

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On 03-10-20 22:27, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

getting old! It's certainly not for sissies.

Haha so far, it's not treating me too bad. :)

YET!!

Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing focus on training.
D

about an hour. Gonna ride the scooter over to enjoy the weather & the

Ahh, OK. I often joke that I take large doses of iron (gym) and speed
(on the track) for my mental health.

Mine's from defective genes. Runs in the family from bad brain
chemistry.

Yeah well don't get me started on my brain, it's totally weird! :D

loves the feel of the breeze on his face. Same thing here.

Cool, that I can understand. :)

Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.

Having a spell of nice warm weather here. Great to be outside. Will be looking forward to getting on the track for training tomorrow night, and on to the weekend for the competition. :)

Sort of like Monk & Sherlock...but I find it much more funny.

Yes, you have good taste. :)

I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

Haha. :D

Ireland...but still need to head to Google to see what some of the slang means.

But you're educating yourself. :)

Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D


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On 03-10-20 22:36, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of information out there on how to set it up. If you can find a used PC
like I did...that would be the way to go...but if not...run it on VB.

I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

Don't like different shifts...but got my fingers crossed that my shifts will be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the
time...since I will be used to it.

Fair enough. I also now have that training regime that keeps me on an even keel. :)

too, with more travel coming up in the next year than I've done in the last 10! :)

Have done very little travel in the past 20 years. With the way things are...if I left the country would try like hell on not coming back.

Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once the COVID-19 quitens down.


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Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better
with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing
focus on training. D

You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.

Nice drive today...but was a little cool. The sun was out.

Having a spell of nice warm weather here. Great to be outside. Will be looking forward to getting on the track for training tomorrow night, and on to the weekend for the competition. :)

Getting ready to head to work. Gotta a call from my boss asking me if I
wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours is the ticket.

I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

Haha. :D

Tastes bad & leaves marks as well. Never a good sign.

Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D

Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

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As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of

I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

But in the short term...you do have an option.

Just got my USB drive to work with DFSee. Had to have it lay an LVM on the drive & didn't destroy the data. Plus...10 can see it for me to write data
to. Next...is to find the LMHosts file & put my desktop/netbook on it to be able to do file transfers across the wire.

will be a certain time. Not too bad if I'm doing it all the time...since I will be used to it.

Fair enough. I also now have that training regime that keeps me on an even keel. :)

Looks like something may start happening...especially after the phone call
from the boss earlier asking me to come in tomorrow to fill lunches from 10-2.

Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once
the COVID-19 quitens down.

Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I'm wrong.

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Haha so far, I'm a bit like a good wine.. or Scotch - getting better
with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing
focus on training. D

You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.

Haha well, not only are my performances improving, I've had people come up and say I'm looking better now than I did years ago, and I was in reasonable condition all of my life. But these days, I have better muscle definition, and I have lost a little around the middle. :)

Getting ready to head to work. Gotta a call from my boss asking me if I wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours is the ticket.

Ahh OK, cool. :)

I don't know...the screen doesn't taste too good. ;)

Haha. :D

Tastes bad & leaves marks as well. Never a good sign.

Haha :D

Way before computers came along...used to read the encyclopedia just because.

Join the club, that was my pastime as a kid! :D

Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)


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On 03-11-20 12:24, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

As long as you have a PC which will run VirtualBox...they have the additions available. Actually runs pretty good & there's a lot of

I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

But in the short term...you do have an option.

True, it is better than nothing. :)

Just got my USB drive to work with DFSee. Had to have it lay an LVM on
the drive & didn't destroy the data. Plus...10 can see it for me to
write data to. Next...is to find the LMHosts file & put my
desktop/netbook on it to be able to do file transfers across the wire.

Cool, have fun. :)

Looks like something may start happening...especially after the phone
call from the boss earlier asking me to come in tomorrow to fill
lunches from 10-2.

Helpful. :)

Haha, I'm looking forward to a bit of travel. Short term, there will be some good bargains, and longer term, hopefully things settle down once
the COVID-19 quitens down.

Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the
OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I'm wrong.

So do I. :(


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with age. :D That's due in no small part to the steadily increasing focus on training. D

You sure about that? I would classify myself more like vinegar.

Haha well, not only are my performances improving, I've had people come
up and say I'm looking better now than I did years ago, and I was in reasonable condition all of my life. But these days, I have better
muscle definition, and I have lost a little around the middle. :)

Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack
any day of the week. ;)

wanted to do 10-2 tomorrow. My appt is at 3 PM...so an extra 4 hours the ticket.

Ahh OK, cool. :)

Found out the boss is cutting hours of some people...while giving me more. Plus...they fired 2 supervisors yesterday. One for having people work off the clock & the other for her sister (who used to work there) come in & shooting her mouth off in front of a customer & her big sister not doing anything
about it...so the customer complained.

Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)

Same thing...but we got ours through giveaways at grocery stores when I was a kid.

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I'm not a big fan of VB. I'm hoping I can run it on real hardware.

But in the short term...you do have an option.

True, it is better than nothing. :)

There is a learning curve...but you run Linux...will be a walk in the park.

Very true. On the other hand...I hate it that this may have given the OPOS & those just like it a reason to keep things locked down. Hope I wrong.

So do I. :(

Heard the news out of Ottawa of the OPOS restricting travel & blaming
everyone else for its stupidity. Am shocked it didn't restrict travel from
your area of the world. That may be next.

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On 03-12-20 08:23, Phoobar wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Certainly have ya beat with the muscle definition. My keg beats your 6-pack any day of the week. ;)

Haha, you wish. :P

Found out the boss is cutting hours of some people...while giving me
more. Plus...they fired 2 supervisors yesterday. One for having people work off the clock & the other for her sister (who used to work there) come in & shooting her mouth off in front of a customer & her big
sister not doing anything about it...so the customer complained.

Hmm, sounds like a good cleaning out, and you're doing well from it.

Myself...would go over to the reference part & just picked one.

My parents bought me a set of encyclopedias, because I loved reading factual material. And I read quite a lot of them. :)

Same thing...but we got ours through giveaways at grocery stores when I was a kid.

Handy. :)


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