• TexASS measles outbreak, unvaccinated or status unknown

    From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 23:34:46 2025
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    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to Gronk on Sun Feb 16 18:00:25 2025
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    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.


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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Feb 16 11:14:36 2025
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    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:00:25 -0000 (UTC)
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.



    Factual and frightening too.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved to
    the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000 persons
    examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary syphilis (30
    per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis (415 per 100,000
    persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added
    in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per 100,000 persons
    tested). Refugees were offered additional, voluntary interventions,
    including vaccinations and presumptive treatment for parasites. By
    2019, first- and second-dose coverage with measles-containing vaccine
    were 96% and 80%, respectively. In refugee populations for whom
    presumptive treatment is recommended, up to 96% of refugees, depending
    on the specific regimen, were offered and accepted treatment. For the
    139,683 persons identified overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and overseas medical data to the appropriate state or
    local health agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among
    101,119 persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or
    class B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged
    2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a
    complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not
    routinely tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis
    during the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of arrival was 464
    (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those with class B0 or B1
    TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for children with
    class B2 TB.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7170192/

    By multiple health measures, immigrants and refugees are, in general, in poorer health than the average for citizens of their country of destination. Infectious diseases favor the poor and disenfranchised. It should not be surprising that emerging
    infectious diseases would be associated with social inequality.12 Refugees frequently have fled their country of origin with little in the way of financial resources. If they were in a refugee camp prior to immigration they endured privations including
    crowding, malnutrition, poor sanitation, inadequate clothing, and poor access to basic health services. For example, patients may acquire tuberculosis that recrudesces later or is diagnosed after arrival in their new home country.13 Multidrug resistant
    tuberculosis (MDRTB) is of particular concern because it is difficult to diagnose and treat. Tuberculosis should be considered in the differential diagnosis of any immigrant presenting even years later with symptoms compatible with reactivated or
    disseminated disease. Alternatively, immigrants who have not received appropriate immunizations may serve as pockets of susceptible persons in countries that otherwise have low endemic rates of disease. Examples include measles and rubella.

    Emerging infectious diseases of note for immigrants and refugees
    Though there is a broad literature of emerging infections, there is little documentation of emerging disease transmission or epidemic spread to the US attributable to refugees or immigrants. Although it is clear that refugee camp conditions lead to
    excessive outbreaks of diseases (i.e. measles, cholera, TB), controlled immigration, as occurs with refugees, greatly decreases the risk of the introduction of infectious diseases to the US in this population. This is true because under CDC protocols
    some refugees receive both overseas preventive therapy (antimalarials) as well as post-arrival medical screening. Some legal immigrants must also receive overseas preventive care and basic medical screening. Therefore, although immigrants (especially
    undocumented immigrants) and refugees may pose a potential reservoir for the spread of emerging infectious diseases to the US, they are significantly less likely than unregulated travelers to spark a true epidemic in the US. This stated, a number of
    emerging infections could theoretically expand their range because of the movement of immigrant and refugee populations.

    Influenza
    Few other highly transmissible contagions carry the historic profile of pandemic influenza. While seasonal outbreaks of interpandemic influenza occur annually, they can generally be predicted using international surveillance and their impact blunted by
    mass vaccination and prophylactic antiviral treatment strategies. In contrast, the emergence of highly pathogenic strains, such as the 1918 ‘Spanish’ flu which killed an estimated 50 million people worldwide, pose a substantially greater public
    health risk.14 More recently, the discovery of the H5N1 avian strain has led to considerable government preparation for the possibility of a new pandemic.15 Local physicians and state health departments remain on the forefront of such outbreaks. Special
    attention should be paid to infected foreign travelers and immigrants as one potential nidus for community-wide spread.

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0


    Health officials say they are not sure why these and other infectious
    diseases are resurfacing. One distinct possibility, which officials are
    loath to discuss, is that the millions of migrants who have crossed
    into the country in recent years could be bringing the scourges with
    them, since many are from countries where such rare diseases persist
    and vaccination programs are not robust.

    Citing outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters for illegal immigrants, Vasan also noted the arrival of newcomers who either began their journey in a country where tuberculosis is present or passed through such countries en route to the U.S.

    The New York City Health Department did not respond to questions from RealClearInvestigations or to a request to speak with Dr. Vasan, but the numbers have only grown since he sent his letter. Since spring 2022, more than 100,000 migrants had arrived in
    the city, and more than 67,200 were living in taxpayer-funded housing at the end of November, according to the New York Times.

    Last year, the first recorded polio case in the U.S. since 2013 was diagnosed in New York State, with the victim described only as an “unvaccinated man.” Also in 2022, poliovirus was found in the water supply of four New York counties, including Long
    Island, and New York City. Another positive test result was recorded in Rockland County this year, according to the state.

    In the U.S., polio vaccinations remain part of “the routine childhood immunization process” under which the CDC recommends four doses. Adults who grew up in the U.S. are vaccinated, the agency said.

    The last occurrence prior to the New York diagnosis had been in 1979.
    Since November 2022, the CDC has begun wastewater testing for the
    poliovirus, so long extinct in the U.S., in selected areas, but the
    agency did not respond to questions about those investigations. It does
    provide information on COVID and monkeypox, the latter a disease that
    primarily afflicts the gay population.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Feb 16 13:27:30 2025
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    On 2/16/25 13:00, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s


    -hh

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Feb 16 18:59:16 2025
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    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vot93p$mkp2$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vacci
    nations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.

    No, we can't.


    Among other diseases like TB for example.


    Viruses don't don't care about that.

    They only want to infect people.

    And anti-vaxxers like Senator Brainworm
    want to help them.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Feb 16 11:16:16 2025
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    pothead wrote:
    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.



    They used up all the vaccines so none left for native Texans.

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Feb 16 20:46:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vot93p$mkp2$3@dont-email.me:

    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vacci
    nations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.



    Those "illegal migrants" were vaccinated - it's those native Texans that
    refuse vaccinations.

    Even if those "illegal migrants" were the source (they're not), there
    would be no outbreak if Texans had gotten vaccinations. Measles is
    entirely preventable.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From TrumpenFuehrer News Network@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 16 21:04:34 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-
    vaccinati
    ons-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    Ban vaccinations completely so there will be fewer of the idiots around.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sun Feb 16 14:25:09 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:20:40 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:00:25 -0000 (UTC)
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.



    Factual and frightening too.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved
    to the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the
    overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000
    persons examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary
    syphilis (30 per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis
    (415 per 100,000 persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per
    100,000 persons tested). Refugees were offered additional,
    voluntary interventions, including vaccinations and presumptive
    treatment for parasites. By 2019, first- and second-dose coverage
    with measles-containing vaccine were 96% and 80%, respectively. In
    refugee populations for whom presumptive treatment is recommended,
    up to 96% of refugees, depending on the specific regimen, were
    offered and accepted treatment. For the 139,683 persons identified
    overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and
    overseas medical data to the appropriate state or local health
    agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among 101,119
    persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or class
    B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged 2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not routinely
    tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis during
    the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a
    diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of
    arrival was 464 (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those
    with class B0 or B1 TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons
    examined) for children with class B2 TB.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7170192/

    By multiple health measures, immigrants and refugees are, in
    general, in poorer health than the average for citizens of their
    country of destination. Infectious diseases favor the poor and disenfranchised. It should not be surprising that emerging
    infectious diseases would be associated with social inequality.12
    Refugees frequently have fled their country of origin with little
    in the way of financial resources. If they were in a refugee camp
    prior to immigration they endured privations including crowding, malnutrition, poor sanitation, inadequate clothing, and poor access
    to basic health services. For example, patients may acquire
    tuberculosis that recrudesces later or is diagnosed after arrival
    in their new home country.13 Multidrug resistant tuberculosis
    (MDRTB) is of particular concern because it is difficult to
    diagnose and treat. Tuberculosis should be considered in the
    differential diagnosis of any immigrant presenting even years later
    with symptoms compatible with reactivated or disseminated disease. Alternatively, immigrants who have not received appropriate
    immunizations may serve as pockets of susceptible persons in
    countries that otherwise have low endemic rates of disease.
    Examples include measles and rubella.

    Emerging infectious diseases of note for immigrants and refugees
    Though there is a broad literature of emerging infections, there is
    little documentation of emerging disease transmission or epidemic
    spread to the US attributable to refugees or immigrants. Although
    it is clear that refugee camp conditions lead to excessive
    outbreaks of diseases (i.e. measles, cholera, TB), controlled
    immigration, as occurs with refugees, greatly decreases the risk of
    the introduction of infectious diseases to the US in this
    population. This is true because under CDC protocols some refugees
    receive both overseas preventive therapy (antimalarials) as well as post-arrival medical screening. Some legal immigrants must also
    receive overseas preventive care and basic medical screening.
    Therefore, although immigrants (especially undocumented immigrants)
    and refugees may pose a potential reservoir for the spread of
    emerging infectious diseases to the US, they are significantly less
    likely than unregulated travelers to spark a true epidemic in the
    US. This stated, a number of emerging infections could
    theoretically expand their range because of the movement of
    immigrant and refugee populations.

    Influenza
    Few other highly transmissible contagions carry the historic
    profile of pandemic influenza. While seasonal outbreaks of
    interpandemic influenza occur annually, they can generally be
    predicted using international surveillance and their impact blunted
    by mass vaccination and prophylactic antiviral treatment
    strategies. In contrast, the emergence of highly pathogenic
    strains, such as the 1918 ‘Spanish’ flu which killed an estimated
    50 million people worldwide, pose a substantially greater public
    health risk.14 More recently, the discovery of the H5N1 avian
    strain has led to considerable government preparation for the
    possibility of a new pandemic.15 Local physicians and state health departments remain on the forefront of such outbreaks. Special
    attention should be paid to infected foreign travelers and
    immigrants as one potential nidus for community-wide spread.

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0


    Health officials say they are not sure why these and other
    infectious diseases are resurfacing. One distinct possibility,
    which officials are loath to discuss, is that the millions of
    migrants who have crossed into the country in recent years could be bringing the scourges with them, since many are from countries
    where such rare diseases persist and vaccination programs are not
    robust.

    Citing outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters for illegal immigrants,
    Vasan also noted the arrival of newcomers who either began their
    journey in a country where tuberculosis is present or passed
    through such countries en route to the U.S.

    The New York City Health Department did not respond to questions
    from RealClearInvestigations or to a request to speak with Dr.
    Vasan, but the numbers have only grown since he sent his letter.
    Since spring 2022, more than 100,000 migrants had arrived in the
    city, and more than 67,200 were living in taxpayer-funded housing
    at the end of November, according to the New York Times.

    Last year, the first recorded polio case in the U.S. since 2013 was diagnosed in New York State, with the victim described only as an “unvaccinated man.” Also in 2022, poliovirus was found in the water supply of four New York counties, including Long Island, and New
    York City. Another positive test result was recorded in Rockland
    County this year, according to the state.

    In the U.S., polio vaccinations remain part of “the routine
    childhood immunization process” under which the CDC recommends four doses. Adults who grew up in the U.S. are vaccinated, the agency
    said.

    The last occurrence prior to the New York diagnosis had been in
    1979. Since November 2022, the CDC has begun wastewater testing for
    the poliovirus, so long extinct in the U.S., in selected areas, but
    the agency did not respond to questions about those investigations.
    It does provide information on COVID and monkeypox, the latter a
    disease that primarily afflicts the gay population.



    'because of a lack of vaccinations'.


    Thanks for your concession.

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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Feb 16 14:29:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:59:16 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.

    No, we can't.


    Yes.

    Yes we can Hole-man:

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in 2020
    to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio and
    Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according to
    state health officials. The age and nationality of victims is not made
    public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many countries
    that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    https://jtf.org/measles-illegals-more-evidence-shows-link/

    A close look at the history of measles outbreaks in the U.S. over the
    last 15 years evidences two significant themes – the vast majority of
    all cases were imported from outside the country, and many of the
    disease clusters were located in California, a state known for its
    large concentration of illegal aliens.

    Limbaugh told his audience: “We have a vaccination problem for one reason: Barack Hussein Obama and his open-borders immigration policy, which opened the southern borders to children sick, healthy, you name it, poor, ill-educated, just tens of
    thousands of kids flooded the southern border all of last year.

    “They were never examined before they got here,” Limbaugh said. “They were never examined after they got here and quarantined if they had a
    disease. They were just sent out across the country. Many of them had measles.”

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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Feb 16 14:31:54 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.

    WTF is wrong with your brain Huntzy?

    And who put you on disinformation psyop payroll, the Air Farce?

    Are you attached to that civilian psyop division Tulsi had command of?

    https://jtf.org/measles-illegals-more-evidence-shows-link/

    Limbaugh told his audience: “We have a vaccination problem for one reason: Barack Hussein Obama and his open-borders immigration policy, which opened the southern borders to children sick, healthy, you name it, poor, ill-educated, just tens of
    thousands of kids flooded the southern border all of last year.

    “They were never examined before they got here,” Limbaugh said. “They were never examined after they got here and quarantined if they had a
    disease. They were just sent out across the country. Many of them had measles.”

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Sun Feb 16 16:59:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a large population of Mennonites:

    "Seminole and Gaines County are home to a large population of Low German Mennonites from Russia that came to West Texas in the 1980s.[5]"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole,_Texas>

    Plus note what the news is explicitly saying:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated” Mennonite community, Texas Department of State Health Services
    spokesperson Lara Anton said. Gaines County is highly rural, so many of
    the families send their children to small private schools or are
    homeschooled, Anton said."

    <https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/texas-measles-outbreak-unvaccinated/3771426/>


    WTF is wrong with your brain Huntzy?

    Oh, so its supposedly *my* fault that you're so bloody uneducated?

    Some religions/groups have varying degrees of accepting certain things,
    which includes vaccinations (MAGA's), etc.

    Case in point, on modern air travel:

    "The Amish are not permitted to travel by airplane as air travel is
    regarded as too modern.[27]"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_way_of_life#Use_of_modern_technology>


    Limbaugh ...

    ...is dead, and utterly irrelevant to current events.

    So if you want to claim that measles were brought into Texas by illegal immigrants, where's the evidence of a contemporary instances of
    outbreaks along migration paths through Mexico? Because the last
    measles outbreak that occurred in Mexico was 5 years ago, in 2020.


    -hh

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Sun Feb 16 14:09:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 20:46:30 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Those "illegal migrants" were vaccinated -

    PROVE that, lying LeRoi - provide citations and their full medical
    records.

    or STFU!


    So what? Why are native Texans not vaccinating? How are immigrants
    preventing that?

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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Baxter on Sun Feb 16 14:23:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 20:46:30 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Those "illegal migrants" were vaccinated -

    PROVE that, lying LeRoi - provide citations and their full medical
    records.

    or STFU!

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Sun Feb 16 15:18:36 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in 2020
    to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio and
    Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according to
    state health officials. The age and nationality of victims is not made public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many countries
    that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    'unvaccinated children'

    Why not? We have vaccines for polio and measles.


    --
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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sun Feb 16 16:32:59 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:09:19 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 20:46:30 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Those "illegal migrants" were vaccinated -

    PROVE that, lying LeRoi - provide citations and their full medical
    records.

    or STFU!


    So what?

    Drop dead!

    Why are native Texans not vaccinating?

    Maybe they know the deadly toxic contents of many vaxes.

    How are immigrants preventing that?


    Why are illegal aliens allowed to hop our border without being vaxed?

    Measles didn't spontaneously return, they were brought here.


    https://blogs.bcm.edu/2024/05/17/measles-on-the-rise/

    What is causing the current outbreaks?

    If a child with measles is in contact with a child too young to receive the MMR vaccine, there will usually be a small number of cases. Others may be vaccinated so the virus stops spreading. Outbreaks in the U.S. happen when one of these measles cases
    finds a group of unvaccinated children and keeps spreading.

    This year, 20 states have reported measles cases, with recent outbreaks
    in Chicago, New York and Florida.

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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Feb 16 16:30:12 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a large population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%



    "Seminole and Gaines County are home to a large population of Low
    German Mennonites from Russia that came to West Texas in the
    1980s.[5]"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole,_Texas>

    Plus note what the news is explicitly saying:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated” Mennonite community,

    They're high school clustered.

    But oil field labor isn't:

    https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/their-own-words-oil-and-gas-industry-workers-dont-want-be-left-behind

    This is a region that is dominated by oil and gas development and where
    few other jobs exist. It’s a region that yields a ton of money for the
    state from that oil and gas development. And it’s a region where the
    oil and gas industry hugely depends on Latinx and immigrant workers.

    https://www.ndtvprofit.com/businessweek/welcome-to-the-man-camps-of-west-texas

    Welcome to the ‘Man Camps’ of West Texas

    Someone had to BRING the measles in chucklenuts - solve for the
    initiation vector.

    Here's a hint - measles don't spontaneously regenerate, nor does TB.

    These are all migrant-driven reintroductions.

    https://blogs.bcm.edu/2024/05/17/measles-on-the-rise/

    What is causing the current outbreaks?

    If a child with measles is in contact with a child too young to receive the MMR vaccine, there will usually be a small number of cases. Others may be vaccinated so the virus stops spreading. Outbreaks in the U.S. happen when one of these measles cases
    finds a group of unvaccinated children and keeps spreading.

    This year, 20 states have reported measles cases, with recent outbreaks
    in Chicago, New York and Florida.


    Because we KNOW all these states are heavy with illegals.

    And you're a deceitful piece of shit to slime the Mennonites Huntzy,
    they didn't infect themselves.

    They were just an easier soft target.

    The same could be said of Christian scientists.

    But your psyop spin is the usual "blame white Christians" for
    everything game.

    You're done here Huntzy, you treasonous dead end kid.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Sun Feb 16 16:18:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Maybe they know the deadly toxic contents of many vaxes.

    Getting measles or polio is healthier.

    Are you trolling or just a bag of yoyos?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
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  • From Ubiquitous@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 01:55:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics


    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-
    vaccinati
    ons-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.


    Measles is better than being vaccinated according to RFKjr.

    Give Trump the Measles, we want to see his agonizing death.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Feb 17 03:00:05 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in news:votroi$q7j4$1@dont-email.me:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-meas
    les-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in
    2020 to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio
    and Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according
    to state health officials. The age and nationality of victims is not
    made public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many
    countries that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    'unvaccinated children'

    Why not? We have vaccines for polio and measles.






    "We have a right to prevent medical care" =
    "our children have a right to die for our beliefs"




    Couple arrested in faith healing death of newborn
    Apr. 30, 2024

    https://www.kptv.com/2024/05/01/oregon-city-couple-arrested-faith- healing-death-newborn/






    13 Idaho children died while their parents
    relied on faith and rejected medical care
    February 16, 2020

    https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/state- politics/article239676853.html#storylink=cpy

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Ubiquitous on Mon Feb 17 06:45:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    Ubiquitous wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:


    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-
    vaccinati
    ons-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the largest measles outbreak in the >>state in nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that hundreds may be >>infected with the otherwise rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations. >>
    The Texas Department of State Health Services reported Friday that over the >>last three weeks, the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of measles, >>which is characterized by rashes that may cover the entire body, along with a >>high fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of the 48 patients have been >>hospitalized, most of the cases are children younger than 18, and every >>confirmed case is either unvaccinated or has an unknown vaccination status.

    Measles is better than being vaccinated according to RFKjr.

    Give Trump the Measles, we want to see his agonizing death.

    I'd like to see Trump get a bad recalcitrant case of shingles. :-D

    --
    "The chain which can be yanked is not the eternal chain."
    -- G. Fitch

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Mon Feb 17 08:34:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/16/25 18:30, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a large
    population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%


    Irrelevant, because the cited report specifically noted what community
    the cases are in:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated” Mennonite community,..."

    And today's reporting is noting that all of the cases identified so far
    are in said community.

    "Seminole and Gaines County are home to a large population of Low
    German Mennonites from Russia that came to West Texas in the
    1980s.[5]"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminole,_Texas>

    Plus note what the news is explicitly saying:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated”
    Mennonite community,

    They're high school clustered.

    Children and teens ... which includes younger than High School.



    But oil field labor isn't:


    Isn't ... what?

    The reports aren't that cases are concentrated amongst working age, nor specifically oil field laborers. As you've tried to snip & break up:

    [quote]
    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated” Mennonite community, Texas Department of State Health Services
    spokesperson Lara Anton said.
    [/quote]


    Someone had to BRING the measles in chucklenuts - solve for the
    initiation vector.

    Here's a hint - measles don't spontaneously regenerate, nor does TB.

    These are all migrant-driven reintroductions.

    Nice claim ... got any actual substantiation for it? Nope.


    If a child with measles is in contact with a child too young to
    receive the MMR vaccine, there will usually be a small number of cases. Others may be vaccinated so the virus stops spreading. Outbreaks in
    the U.S. happen when one of these measles cases finds a group of
    unvaccinated children and keeps spreading.


    But here it includes *teens* within the Mennonite community. Oops.

    With the rise in the anti-vaccination kick in the USA, how bad have
    vaccination rates gotten in Red States?


    This year, 20 states have reported measles cases, with recent outbreaks
    in Chicago, New York and Florida.

    What are these twenty states?

    Because we KNOW all these states are heavy with illegals.

    Not really: Mexico has an 86% vaccination success rate, so you can't
    lay all possible blame on them.


    And you're a deceitful piece of shit to slime the Mennonites Huntzy,
    they didn't infect themselves.

    They knew the health risk, yet chose to not take known precautions.


    They were just an easier soft target.

    The same could be said of Christian scientists.

    But your psyop spin is the usual "blame white Christians" for
    everything game.

    No, I'm just not sympathetic of people trying to play the victim card
    when they're in no small part responsible for their own damn problem.
    Its being an adult who takes personal responsibility: try it yourself.

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Feb 17 08:27:52 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 03:00:05 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    Couple arrested in faith healing

    "Measles and mumps are viral diseases so rare that fewer than one in
    40,000 Americans catch either of them in a given year.'

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Feb 17 08:25:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:18:25 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Maybe they know the deadly toxic contents of many vaxes.

    Getting measles or polio is healthier.

    Are you trolling or just a bag of yoyos?


    "Measles and mumps are viral diseases so rare that fewer than one in
    40,000 Americans catch either of them in a given year.'

    Even Mennonites.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Feb 17 08:32:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:45:38 -0500
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    I'd like to see Trump get a bad recalcitrant case of shingles. :-D




    🌐
    Reunion
    reunion.com
    › people search › ca › sacramento › jonathan › jonathan ball › profile
    Jonathan Ball (David), 72 Public Records - Sacramento California
    Jonathan Ball's birthday is 12/02/1952 and is 72 years old. Previously cities included Pasadena CA and Altadena CA. Sometimes Jonathan goes by various nicknames including Jonathan D Ball. For work these days, Jonathan is a President at Ball Information
    Systens INC.

    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC
    2030 JeffersonDr Pasadena CA 91104
    JONATHAN BALL
    REGISTERED AGENT
    Since January 1987


    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC.
    01/02/1987 Suspended - FTB/SOS

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Feb 17 08:35:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:34:28 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 18:30, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a
    large population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%


    Irrelevant, because the cited report specifically noted what
    community the cases are in:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated” Mennonite community,..."

    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    Case closed.

    And today's reporting

    How much are they paying you to sell out your own nation, traitor?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Mon Feb 17 09:22:04 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:45:38 -0500
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    I'd like to see Trump get a bad recalcitrant case of shingles. :-D



    🌐
    Reunion
    reunion.com
    › people search › ca › sacramento › jonathan › jonathan ball › profile
    Jonathan Ball (David), 72 Public Records - Sacramento California
    Jonathan Ball's birthday is 12/02/1952 and is 72 years old. Previously cities included Pasadena CA and Altadena CA. Sometimes Jonathan goes by various nicknames including Jonathan D Ball. For work these days, Jonathan is a President at Ball Information
    Systens INC.

    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC
    2030 JeffersonDr Pasadena CA 91104
    JONATHAN BALL
    REGISTERED AGENT
    Since January 1987


    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC.
    01/02/1987 Suspended - FTB/SOS

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Mon Feb 17 10:07:18 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    What happens to a vaccinated when exposed to measles?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From -hh@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Mon Feb 17 14:00:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/17/25 10:35, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:34:28 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 18:30, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a
    large population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%


    Irrelevant, because the cited report specifically noted what
    community the cases are in:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit, undervaccinated”
    Mennonite community,..."

    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    Case closed.

    No proof for your claim.


    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    Tarrant Co: 14.29%
    Gaines Co: 46.15%
    etc

    <https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/data/school/coverage>

    That's half the rate of Mexico.


    -hh

    -hh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Mon Feb 17 14:58:15 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:45:38 -0500
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    I'd like to see Trump get a bad recalcitrant case of shingles. :-D




    🌐
    Reunion
    reunion.com
    › people search › ca › sacramento › jonathan › jonathan ball › profile
    Jonathan Ball (David), 72 Public Records - Sacramento California
    Jonathan Ball's birthday is 12/02/1952 and is 72 years old. Previously cities included Pasadena CA and Altadena CA. Sometimes Jonathan goes by various nicknames including Jonathan D Ball. For work these days, Jonathan is a President at Ball Information
    Systens INC.

    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC
    2030 JeffersonDr Pasadena CA 91104
    JONATHAN BALL
    REGISTERED AGENT
    Since January 1987


    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC.
    01/02/1987 Suspended - FTB/SOS






    _ _
    |_| |_|
    | | /^^^\ | |
    _| |_ (| "o" |) _| |_
    _| | | | _ (_---_) _ | | | |_
    | | | | |' | _| |_ | `| | | | |
    \ / / \ \ /
    \ / / /(. .)\ \ \ /
    \ / / / | . | \ \ \ /
    \ \/ / ||Y|| \ \/ /
    \_/ || || \_/
    () ()
    || ||
    ooO Ooo

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Feb 17 13:01:19 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:07:18 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    What happens to a vaccinated when exposed to measles?


    Why are YOU excusing unvaaccinated illegals who have _brought
    pestilence_ back to our nation?

    Why do you always excuse the instigators and decry the victims?

    You are a truly vile, subhuman excuse for a human.


    https://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-disease/

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated, but are highly contagious, as in the case of TB.
    This disease rose by 20% globally from 1985 to 1991, and was declared a worldwide emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 1995.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916

    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE
    had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by
    the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread
    of the disease.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/1/115/5820624?login=false


    We identified 327 patients with confirmed PTB disease (incidence rate, 92.8 per 100 000); the majority of patients were asymptomatic (79.2%) at diagnosis. Adjusting for all other variables in the model, the presence of cavitary lesions, acid-fast
    bacillus smear positivity, and multilobar presentation were significantly associated with symptomatic status. Among all patients identified with TB disease who had a tuberculin skin test (TST) result recorded, 27.2% were both asymptomatic and TST
    negative, including those with smear-positive disease.

    Conclusions
    Asymptomatic PTB disease is a significant clinical entity among
    immigrant detainees and placement in a congregate setting calls for
    aggressive screening to prevent transmission. Early identification,
    isolation, and treatment of TB disease benefit not only the health of
    the patient, but also the surrounding community.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Feb 17 19:18:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote in news:vovtsn$18l26$1@dont- email.me:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    What happens to a vaccinated when exposed to measles?



    Conservatives don't care about
    preserving lives, they only care
    about preserving their prin+ciples.

    "Children die all the time, our
    anti-vaxx agenda is more important"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Feb 17 11:37:57 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    -hh wrote:
    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    A vaccine I am up to date on is pertussis. I might not even notice
    if I had it. But if I cough near an unvaccinated infant, I might
    give it a slow agonising death.

    Assholes are up to date on conspiracy theories and aught that
    feeds their paranoia and terror. They never give a thought to the
    harm they inflict on the wee ones.

    How about this one: measles can cause sterility in adult men.

    <https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content?contenttypeid=90&contentid=P02250>

    Did that perk up your little piggy ears?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Feb 17 13:03:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:00:38 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/17/25 10:35, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:34:28 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 18:30, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a
    large population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%


    Irrelevant, because the cited report specifically noted what
    community the cases are in:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit,
    undervaccinated” Mennonite community,..."

    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    Case closed.

    No proof for your claim.


    You are a dangerous source of disinformation and appear to me to
    qualify as an *enemy combatant*, Hutzy.

    https://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-disease/

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated, but are highly contagious, as in the case of TB.
    This disease rose by 20% globally from 1985 to 1991, and was declared a worldwide emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 1995.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916

    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE
    had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by
    the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread
    of the disease.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/1/115/5820624?login=false


    We identified 327 patients with confirmed PTB disease (incidence rate, 92.8 per 100 000); the majority of patients were asymptomatic (79.2%) at diagnosis. Adjusting for all other variables in the model, the presence of cavitary lesions, acid-fast
    bacillus smear positivity, and multilobar presentation were significantly associated with symptomatic status. Among all patients identified with TB disease who had a tuberculin skin test (TST) result recorded, 27.2% were both asymptomatic and TST
    negative, including those with smear-positive disease.

    Conclusions
    Asymptomatic PTB disease is a significant clinical entity among
    immigrant detainees and placement in a congregate setting calls for
    aggressive screening to prevent transmission. Early identification,
    isolation, and treatment of TB disease benefit not only the health of
    the patient, but also the surrounding community.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Mon Feb 17 13:15:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:18:33 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    What happens to a vaccinated when exposed to measles?



    Conservatives don't care about
    preserving lives,

    Who brought measles in here to reseed?

    Not conservatives.

    Who brought TB back from extinction here/

    Not conservatives.

    You lying cornholing scumbag!


    https://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-disease/

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated, but are highly contagious, as in the case of TB.
    This disease rose by 20% globally from 1985 to 1991, and was declared a worldwide emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 1995.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916

    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE
    had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by
    the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread
    of the disease.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/1/115/5820624?login=false


    We identified 327 patients with confirmed PTB disease (incidence rate, 92.8 per 100 000); the majority of patients were asymptomatic (79.2%) at diagnosis. Adjusting for all other variables in the model, the presence of cavitary lesions, acid-fast
    bacillus smear positivity, and multilobar presentation were significantly associated with symptomatic status. Among all patients identified with TB disease who had a tuberculin skin test (TST) result recorded, 27.2% were both asymptomatic and TST
    negative, including those with smear-positive disease.

    Conclusions
    Asymptomatic PTB disease is a significant clinical entity among
    immigrant detainees and placement in a congregate setting calls for
    aggressive screening to prevent transmission. Early identification,
    isolation, and treatment of TB disease benefit not only the health of
    the patient, but also the surrounding community.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza on Mon Feb 17 13:17:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:58:15 -0500
    Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:45:38 -0500
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    I'd like to see Trump get a bad recalcitrant case of shingles. :-D




    🌐
    Reunion
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    › people search › ca › sacramento › jonathan › jonathan ball ›
    profile Jonathan Ball (David), 72 Public Records - Sacramento
    California Jonathan Ball's birthday is 12/02/1952 and is 72 years
    old. Previously cities included Pasadena CA and Altadena CA.
    Sometimes Jonathan goes by various nicknames including Jonathan D
    Ball. For work these days, Jonathan is a President at Ball
    Information Systens INC.

    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC
    2030 JeffersonDr Pasadena CA 91104
    JONATHAN BALL
    REGISTERED AGENT
    Since January 1987


    BALL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, INC.
    01/02/1987 Suspended - FTB/SOS






    _ _
    |_| |_|
    | | /^^^\ | |
    _| |_ (| "o" |) _| |_
    _| | | | _ (_---_) _ | | | |_
    | | | | |' | _| |_ | `| | | | |
    \ / / \ \ /
    \ / / /(. .)\ \ \ /
    \ / / / | . | \ \ \ /
    \ \/ / ||Y|| \ \/ /
    \_/ || || \_/
    () ()
    || ||
    ooO Ooo


    When are we going to meet up at the Jolly Kone, little man?

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  • From mxplztylc@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Mon Feb 17 13:15:39 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:37:57 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    Assholes are up to date on conspiracy theories and aught that
    feeds their paranoia and terror. They never give a thought to the
    harm they inflict on the wee ones.


    https://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-disease/

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated, but are highly contagious, as in the case of TB.
    This disease rose by 20% globally from 1985 to 1991, and was declared a worldwide emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 1995.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916

    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE
    had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by
    the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread
    of the disease.

    https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/73/1/115/5820624?login=false


    We identified 327 patients with confirmed PTB disease (incidence rate, 92.8 per 100 000); the majority of patients were asymptomatic (79.2%) at diagnosis. Adjusting for all other variables in the model, the presence of cavitary lesions, acid-fast
    bacillus smear positivity, and multilobar presentation were significantly associated with symptomatic status. Among all patients identified with TB disease who had a tuberculin skin test (TST) result recorded, 27.2% were both asymptomatic and TST
    negative, including those with smear-positive disease.

    Conclusions
    Asymptomatic PTB disease is a significant clinical entity among
    immigrant detainees and placement in a congregate setting calls for
    aggressive screening to prevent transmission. Early identification,
    isolation, and treatment of TB disease benefit not only the health of
    the patient, but also the surrounding community.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Tue Feb 18 03:13:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc <mxp@invalid.ca> wrote in news:20250217130119.50c78279@z-z:

    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 10:07:18 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    mxplztylc wrote:
    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    What happens to a vaccinated when exposed to measles?


    Why are YOU excusing unvaaccinated illegals who have _brought
    pestilence_ back to our nation?

    Why do you always excuse the instigators and decry the victims?

    You are a truly vile, subhuman excuse for a human.


    https://sma.org/illegal-immigration-and-the-threat-of-infectious-diseas
    e/

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand? "May" means they have no
    proof.


    but are highly contagious, as in the case of TB.
    This disease rose by 20% globally from 1985 to 1991, and was declared
    a worldwide emergency by the World Health Organization (WHO) in 1995.

    Oh, and you god tRump pulled us out of WHO, so now we have no visibility
    of what diseases are happening in the world. USAID was working on
    fighting TB, you cut off that tot. And CDC, you forced to go quiet - so
    now we have no visibility of what's going on here in the US.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Tue Feb 18 08:25:06 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/17/25 15:03, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:00:38 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/17/25 10:35, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:34:28 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 18:30, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:59:14 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/16/25 16:31, mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:27:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the >>>>>>>> technology of air travel? /s

    Absurd non sequitur alert.


    LOL, nope. The outbreak is in Gaines County, Texas, which has a
    large population of Mennonites:

    I bet they also have a large percentge of patriots then.

    Another non sequitur.

    Oil field workers too.

    Another non sequitur, or is it?

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/texas/gaines-county

    Total In poverty Rate

    Hispanic 8,671 908 10.47%


    Irrelevant, because the cited report specifically noted what
    community the cases are in:

    "The cases have been concentrated in a “close-knit,
    undervaccinated” Mennonite community,..."

    Where'd the infections originate from Huntzy?

    Who BROUGHT the measles with them Huntzy?

    Illegals!

    That's who.

    Case closed.

    No proof for your claim.


    You are a dangerous source of disinformation and appear to me to
    qualify as an *enemy combatant*, Hutzy.


    Nah, the only "dangerous source of disinformation" was what you so
    BRAVELY DELETED:

    [quote]

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    Tarrant Co: 14.29%
    Gaines Co: 46.15%
    etc

    <https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/data/school/coverage>

    That's half the [vaccination] rate of Mexico.

    [/quote]


    Sooooo....

    ....why are you avoiding acknowledging how bad the vaccination rate is
    among these US white folks?

    After all, do they NOT KNOW that they're in Texas, the "FRONT LINE" of
    the hugely profound illegal immigrants "PROBLEM" and how "PESTILENCE"
    laden they are, as per your cites?

    Why have these white folks been so profoundly ill-prepared? Why? Why?


    -hh

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Feb 18 12:06:23 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    See:

    First Amendment
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"


    Do you gripe about shariah law protocols showing up in the US too?

    "In practice, many American Muslims continue to follow Shariah
    principles in their personal lives, including religious practices and
    ethical standards, without it conflicting with US law. This includes
    activities like daily prayers, fasting during Ramadan, and charitable
    giving."

    (and let's not forget genital mutilation of a woman's clitoris)


    I bet you're mute on that one.

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Feb 18 12:15:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old Liberian
    national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed
    with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been visiting family
    in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital
    Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated from
    "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died of Ebola

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 19:30:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218121538.3841afe7@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old Liberian
    national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed
    with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been visiting family
    in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital
    Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated from
    "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died of Ebola



    non sequiteur

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 19:58:25 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218120623.6c7df752@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.


    Only in unvaccinated groups.



    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.


    Viruses don't care about your religion.


    See:

    First Amendment
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"



    So "death to America" muslim school have
    a right to the same federal funds that churches
    get.


    Do you gripe about shariah law protocols showing up in the US too?


    What do you propose be done about that?


    "In practice, many American Muslims continue to follow Shariah
    principles in their personal lives, including religious practices and
    ethical standards, without it conflicting with US law. This includes activities like daily prayers, fasting during Ramadan, and charitable giving."

    (and let's not forget genital mutilation of a woman's clitoris)


    Male circumcision, on the other hand........

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 20:00:20 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218121538.3841afe7@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old Liberian
    national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed
    with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been visiting family
    in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital
    Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated from
    "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died of Ebola


    That was before the CDC lost its
    funding under the Trump/Musk slashing.

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 12:08:31 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding wrote:
    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Which does not provide immunity from disease for which we have
    vaccines.

    First Amendment
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"


    Do you gripe about shariah law protocols showing up in the US too?

    Sharia is meaningless in US courts. People can make enforceable
    contracts that agree with Sharia. Or Law of Moses. Or Billy-Bob's
    Big Book of Cajun Myths. Actions contrary to our laws are still
    crimes.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 12:21:50 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have been
    virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old Liberian
    national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed
    with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been visiting family
    in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital
    Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated from
    "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died of Ebola


    No 'illegal immigration'. Even US citizens who may be carriers are
    restricted. Ebola has been not eradicated virtually or actually.
    We do not yet have complete vaccines available.

    Customs has the authority to do disease screening. The question is
    paying for it.

    None of this prevents people in the US from loading up on all
    available vaccines. Measles and polio have vaccines available to
    all native Texans. TB does have a vaccine but not widely used.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Baxter on Tue Feb 18 13:29:00 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:30:24 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218121538.3841afe7@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have
    been virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and
    Prevention (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old
    Liberian national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been
    visiting family in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated
    from "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died
    of Ebola



    non sequiteur

    You LOSE again, Leroy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 15:41:30 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/18/25 14:06, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    Substantiating citation is absent.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Mennonites have not historically claimed religious exemptions.

    Next!


    Mexico's vaccination rate is higher than Texas, including a MMR
    vaccination rate in 2021 of 97% for both doses, which is comparable or
    better than the US National average. Cite:

    <https://immunizationdata.who.int/global/wiise-detail-page/measles-vaccination-coverage?CODE=MEX&ANTIGEN=MCV2&YEAR=>


    So much for "but its the fault of the diseased 3rd world!" spin attempts.


    -hh

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  • From John Smyth@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 18 20:49:38 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/18/25 14:06, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these Americans
    leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    Substantiating citation is absent.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Mennonites have not historically claimed religious exemptions.

    Next!


    Mexico's vaccination rate is higher than Texas, including a MMR
    vaccination rate in 2021 of 97% for both doses, which is comparable or
    better than the US National average. Cite:

    <https://immunizationdata.who.int/global/wiise-detail-page/measles-vaccina >tion-coverage?CODE=MEX&ANTIGEN=MCV2&YEAR=>


    So much for "but its the fault of the diseased 3rd world!" spin attempts.


    -hh


    Why blame the illegals when everybody knows a mass culling of rightists will see the problem go away? Purge the diseased rightist vermin.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Feb 18 13:50:21 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:58:25 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218120623.6c7df752@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.


    Only in unvaccinated groups.

    We had no need to vaccinate for diseases already eliminated from our
    nation. until illegals immigrants brought them back in.

    What's next - polio vaxes again?


    Ahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

    After 1990
    Polio was eliminated in the Americas by 1994.

    https://www.cdc.gov/polio/vaccines/index.html

    Most adults in the United States were vaccinated as children and are
    therefore likely to be protected from getting polio.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.


    Viruses don't care about your religion.

    Shariah law doesn't care about your daughter's clitoris being removed.

    See:

    First Amendment
    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
    religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"



    So "death to America" muslim school have
    a right to the same federal funds that churches
    get.

    Why do you hate America so much Leroy?

    Do you gripe about shariah law protocols showing up in the US too?


    What do you propose be done about that?


    "In practice, many American Muslims continue to follow Shariah
    principles in their personal lives, including religious practices
    and ethical standards, without it conflicting with US law. This
    includes activities like daily prayers, fasting during Ramadan, and charitable giving."

    (and let's not forget genital mutilation of a woman's clitoris)


    Male circumcision, on the other hand........

    A Jewish tradition that was adopted for genital cleanliness, and
    needlessly so.

    See how that works when you let other cultures insert themselves in our affairs?

    Enjoy TB, you've welcomed it back, nutless.

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  • From Chris Ahlstrom@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Feb 18 15:52:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    Siri Cruise wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    tye syding wrote:

    <snip>

    Sharia is meaningless in US courts. People can make enforceable
    contracts that agree with Sharia. Or Law of Moses. Or Billy-Bob's
    Big Book of Cajun Myths. Actions contrary to our laws are still
    crimes.

    Throwaway nyms have throwaway thoughts. Funny that.

    --
    Fame is a vapor; popularity an accident; the only earthly certainty is oblivion.
    -- Mark Twain

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue Feb 18 13:56:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 20:00:20 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218121538.3841afe7@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have
    been virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and
    Prevention (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old
    Liberian national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been
    visiting family in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated
    from "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died
    of Ebola


    That was before the CDC lost its
    funding under the Trump/Musk slashing.

    Iow this scapegoat is a figment of your imagination.

    We should be knee deep in Ebola by now given you claim, Hole-man.

    "CDC funding" has never been the issue, not before nor since 2014 -
    that's 10 years of real good luck and isolation procedures.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old Liberian national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had
    been visiting family in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated from "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died of Ebola.[11] The other three cases diagnosed
    in the United States as of October 2014 were:

    October 11, 2014, a nurse, Nina Pham, who had provided care to Duncan at the hospital.[12]
    October 14, 2014, Amber Joy Vinson, another nurse who treated Duncan.[13] October 23, 2014, physician Craig Spencer, diagnosed in New York City; he had just returned from working with Doctors Without Borders in Guinea, a country in West Africa.[14] He was treated at Bellevue Hospital in New York City.[15]
    Hundreds of people were tested or monitored for potential Ebola virus infection,[16] but the two nurses were the only confirmed cases of locally transmitted Ebola. Public health experts and the Obama administration opposed instituting a travel ban on
    Ebola endemic areas, stating that it would be ineffective and would paradoxically worsen the situation.[17]

    No one who contracted Ebola while in the United States died from it. No
    new cases were diagnosed in the United States after Spencer was
    released from Bellevue Hospital on November 11, 2014

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Tue Feb 18 14:00:48 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 12:21:50 -0800
    Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

    tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 03:13:28 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    Illegal immigration may expose Americans to diseases that have
    been virtually eradicated,

    What part of "may" do you not understand?

    The recent ebola cases from Uganda we interdicted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_cases_in_the_United_States

    On September 30, 2014, the Centers for Disease Control and
    Prevention (CDC) announced that Thomas Eric Duncan, a 45-year-old
    Liberian national visiting the United States from Liberia, had been diagnosed with Ebola in Dallas, Texas.[6][7] Duncan, who had been
    visiting family in Dallas, was treated at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas.[8][9] By October 4, his condition had deteriorated
    from "serious but stable" to "critical".[10] On October 8, he died
    of Ebola

    No 'illegal immigration'.

    Equivalent to lax travel safety procedures.

    Just as illegals bringing TB over is:

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    LTBI screening and treatment are particularly important for immigrants from regions where TB is common. Over half (66 percent) of US LTBI cases occur in people born outside the US, and the case rate of reactivation TB among that group is about 13 times
    higher than among persons born in the US [2]. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommend LTBI screening for all immigrants from high-prevalence countries who have lived in the US for less than five years [7]. There were approximately
    7 million new immigrants in the US in 2010, including approximately 2.7 million from three high-prevalence countries: Mexico, China, and India [8]. This population also includes 1.8-2.3 million undocumented immigrants [9, 10]; these are immigrants who
    either entered the US without legal documentation or who entered legally but have since violated the terms of those documents. Over half of this cohort originated in countries with a high prevalence of TB [9, 10].

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Feb 18 14:17:53 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:41:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 14:06, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    Substantiating citation is absent.

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    LTBI screening and treatment are particularly important for immigrants from regions where TB is common. Over half (66 percent) of US LTBI cases occur in people born outside the US, and the case rate of reactivation TB among that group is about 13 times
    higher than among persons born in the US [2]. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommend LTBI screening for all immigrants from high-prevalence countries who have lived in the US for less than five years [7]. There were approximately
    7 million new immigrants in the US in 2010, including approximately 2.7 million from three high-prevalence countries: Mexico, China, and India [8]. This population also includes 1.8-2.3 million undocumented immigrants [9, 10]; these are immigrants who
    either entered the US without legal documentation or who entered legally but have since violated the terms of those documents. Over half of this cohort originated in countries with a high prevalence of TB [9, 10].



    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Mennonites have not historically claimed religious exemptions.

    Oh?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32267628

    The emerging bills in both the House and Senate include language patterned on an existing “religious conscience” exemption to laws requiring workers to pay taxes for Social Security and Medicare. What’s not clear is whether the exemption,
    originally designed to apply only to the Old Order Amish, might be used by members of other religious groups — or those who just say they are — in order to evade the insurance mandate.

    It’s probably not a large group: There are only between 200,000 and
    250,000 Old Order Amish and Old Order Mennonites (with similar beliefs)
    in the United States, for instance.


    Next!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonites

    During World War II, Mennonite conscientious objectors were given the
    options of noncombatant military service, serving in the medical or
    dental corps under military control, or working in parks and on roads
    under civilian supervision. Over 95% chose the latter and were placed
    in Alternative Service camps.[75] Initially the men worked on road
    building, forestry and firefighting projects. After May 1943, as a
    labor shortage developed within the nation, men were shifted into
    agriculture, education and industry.

    In the United States, Civilian Public Service (CPS) provided an alternative to military service during World War II. From 1941 to 1947, 4,665 Mennonites, Amish and Brethren in Christ[77] were among nearly 12,000 conscientious objectors who performed work
    of national importance in 152 CPS camps throughout the United States and Puerto Rico. The draftees worked in areas such as soil conservation, forestry, fire fighting, agriculture, social services and mental health.


    Mexico's vaccination rate is higher than Texas,

    Do not give a rip, and Texas is not the entire nation.

    Again:


    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    LTBI screening and treatment are particularly important for immigrants from regions where TB is common. Over half (66 percent) of US LTBI cases occur in people born outside the US, and the case rate of reactivation TB among that group is about 13 times
    higher than among persons born in the US [2]. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommend LTBI screening for all immigrants from high-prevalence countries who have lived in the US for less than five years [7]. There were approximately
    7 million new immigrants in the US in 2010, including approximately 2.7 million from three high-prevalence countries: Mexico, China, and India [8]. This population also includes 1.8-2.3 million undocumented immigrants [9, 10]; these are immigrants who
    either entered the US without legal documentation or who entered legally but have since violated the terms of those documents. Over half of this cohort originated in countries with a high prevalence of TB [9, 10].


    So much for "but its the fault of the diseased 3rd world!" spin
    attempts.


    -hh


    Moar:


    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved to
    the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000 persons
    examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary syphilis (30
    per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis (415 per 100,000
    persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added
    in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per 100,000 persons
    tested). Refugees were offered additional, voluntary interventions,
    including vaccinations and presumptive treatment for parasites. By
    2019, first- and second-dose coverage with measles-containing vaccine
    were 96% and 80%, respectively. In refugee populations for whom
    presumptive treatment is recommended, up to 96% of refugees, depending
    on the specific regimen, were offered and accepted treatment. For the
    139,683 persons identified overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and overseas medical data to the appropriate state or
    local health agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among
    101,119 persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or
    class B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged
    2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a
    complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not
    routinely tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis
    during the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of arrival was 464
    (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those with class B0 or B1
    TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for children with
    class B2 TB.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916
    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread of the disease.

    "We have dodged a bullet this time, we have utilized the justice system
    to ensure that we can continue to protect the public," Landry told
    reporters

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Successful public health campaigns and medical advances have enabled the United States to conquer a range of disfiguring and damaging diseases. Polio, which paralyzed thousands of Americans annually, was wiped out by widespread vaccinations. In 1999, the
    nation’s last hospital for lepers closed its doors in Louisiana. A global campaign eradicated smallpox, while lethal tuberculosis, the “consumption” that stalked characters in decades of literature, seemed beaten by antibiotics. Measles outbreaks
    still occur from time to time, but they are small, local, and easily contained.

    Recently, however, some of these forgotten but still formidable infectious diseases have begun to reappear in the U.S. For two years running, polio has been detected in some New York water samples, and this fall, leprosy re-emerged in Florida, where
    cases of malaria have also been recorded.

    Health officials say they are not sure why these and other infectious diseases are resurfacing. One distinct possibility, which officials are loath to discuss, is that the millions of migrants who have crossed into the country in recent years could be
    bringing the scourges with them, since many are from countries where such rare diseases persist and vaccination programs are not robust.

    “The recent polio and leprosy cases are almost certainly imports to the U.S.,” said Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

    New York City Health Commissioner Ashwin Vasan warned in April that at least half of the migrants who have poured into the city had not been vaccinated against polio. The potentially paralyzing and life-threatening virus remains endemic in two countries
    in the world, Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the World Health Organization. Since President Biden ordered what proved to be a chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, an estimated 90,000 Afghans have come to the U.S. under the terms of
    Operation Allies Welcome.

    It is not clear if those migrants met the polio vaccination requirement. DHS did not respond to a question about whether medical histories were reviewed in the fast-tracked entry of Afghans who got out of their country before the Taliban reimposed its
    control.

    Vasan’s warning pointed directly to the southern border, which has seen record-shattering arrivals on the Biden administration’s watch.

    “More than 50,000 people have come to New York City in the past year shortly after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border,” he wrote in an 11-page letter. “I am writing now to underscore how critical it is that health care providers take a wide range of
    considerations into account when working with people who are seeking asylum.”

    Citing outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters for illegal immigrants, Vasan also noted the arrival of newcomers who either began their journey in a country where tuberculosis is present or passed through such countries en route to the U.S.

    The New York City Health Department did not respond to questions from RealClearInvestigations or to a request to speak with Dr. Vasan, but the numbers have only grown since he sent his letter. Since spring 2022, more than 100,000 migrants had arrived in
    the city, and more than 67,200 were living in taxpayer-funded housing at the end of November, according to the New York Times.

    Last year, the first recorded polio case in the U.S. since 2013 was diagnosed in New York State, with the victim described only as an “unvaccinated man.” Also in 2022, poliovirus was found in the water supply of four New York counties, including Long
    Island, and New York City. Another positive test result was recorded in Rockland County this year, according to the state.

    In the U.S., polio vaccinations remain part of “the routine childhood immunization process” under which the CDC recommends four doses. Adults who grew up in the U.S. are vaccinated, the agency said.

    The last occurrence prior to the New York diagnosis had been in 1979. Since November 2022, the CDC has begun wastewater testing for the poliovirus, so long extinct in the U.S., in selected areas, but the agency did not respond to questions about those
    investigations. It does provide information on COVID and monkeypox, the latter a disease that primarily afflicts the gay population.

    A thorough investigation, exploring all avenues of transmission and trying to source a virus to its root, is common among virus hunters, and the idea that millions of people coming to the U.S. could inadvertently carry with them some infectious disease
    is but one possibility. For example, thus far researchers have been unable to pinpoint where the infamous Ebola virus originates in equatorial Africa.

    'Historically Atypical Countries'

    The situation in the United States is further complicated by the fact that DHS officials don’t know where all of the more than 7.5 million migrants who’ve arrived since Biden took office are living. Those whom Border Patrol agents have encountered
    and processed have immigration court dates, but those dates are years in advance. Many people with uncertain immigration status lack health insurance and stay off the grid as much as possible, meaning even if the U.S. launched some kind of vaccination
    program it would not know where to concentrate its efforts.

    In addition, the historic flood of illegal immigration during the Biden administration has also featured a much more global population. DHS uses the term “historically atypical countries” to describe the panoply of countries outside of Mexico and
    Central America from which illegal immigration has soared. Between 2011 and 2022, the number of annual encounters involving immigrants from historically atypical countries soared from fewer than 8,000 to almost 1 million. The first six months of 2023 saw
    more than half of official encounters – these numbers do not include what Border Patrol calls “gotaways” for whom little information is available – from historically atypical countries. But infectious diseases largely forgotten in the U.S. remain
    public health issues in both hemispheres, and many of those nations have much less robust vaccination programs than most modern Western nations.

    In 1988, when the World Health Organization launched the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, wild poliovirus was evident in 125 countries, but the zone where it remains endemic has shrunk to Afghanistan and Pakistan, with most recent cases occurring
    along the countries’ nearly 1,600-mile border, according to the CDC. Vaccination campaigns have proved problematic under the militant Islamic fundamentalist Taliban, according to the CDC. Oral vaccines in “parts of the south and northeast regions”
    are “allowed only at health facilities, mosques, and polio vaccination sites.”

    In March, Al Jazeera reported that the Taliban would allow a polio vaccination program for children, but precise figures on the country’s overall vaccination rate remain unclear. The World Health Organization estimates that 76% of Afghanistan’s
    children have received a polio vaccine.

    But some countries have even lower vaccination rates. On Nov. 30, for instance, some 700 people, including many from Senegal and Nigeria, walked into the U.S. at the Texas border. Only 63% of Senegal’s children have been vaccinated for polio, and
    various fevers, hepatitis, and malaria are endemic there. Measles, which the U.S. declared eliminated here in 2000, are an issue, too. The WHO estimates 22 million children missed their first measles vaccine last year and more than half of them live in
    just 10 countries, all of which fall in the “historically atypical” immigration list.

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in 2020 to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio and Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according to state health officials. The age and nationality
    of victims is not made public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many countries that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    While few are publicly pushing the panic button, some public health officials worry that a creeping mistrust of vaccines in the wake of the pandemic may make more Americans vulnerable to dangerous and even deadly scourges. Syphilis, for example, has been
    on the rise for many years but rose sharply during the pandemic.

    COVID-19 has drawn the lion’s share of attention from the public health bureaucracy since 2020, leading to shortfalls in other areas, some experts said.

    “All of these diseases are more prevalent in part because of lockdown policies which diverted public health resources and attention worldwide away from its traditional priorities of controlling the spread of these deadly infectious conditions,” Dr.
    Bhattacharya said, referring to measles and other maladies.

    And just as there is no cure for polio, there is no vaccine for some infectious diseases. Malaria, for example, the mosquito-borne fever that killed more workers than yellow fever did when the Panama Canal was built, remains endemic in tropical zones,
    and its path to rare outbreaks in the U.S. usually follows either a trip made abroad or someone moving here, according to health officials in Florida.

    Department spokesman Jae Williams told RCI the exact sources of many infectious disease outbreaks in the Sunshine State remain unknown, but the huge increase in illegal immigrants could be a clue.

    “It’s always a possibility, and our most recent malaria cases appeared to be a strain from Central America,” he said. In other words, the malaria could have been brought by a newcomer or picked up by someone who traveled there and returned.

    Central Florida this summer saw leprosy return, although the exact source remains a mystery, Williams said. Information about the age, sex, and nationality of victims is not public, and most of those who contracted the infectious, skin-disfiguring
    disease were described only as “landscapers.” Various accounts have speculated armadillos are to blame, but armadillos are not newcomers to the region. The theory holds that somehow the leprosy bacteria, which generally requires prolonged contact and
    against which most humans have developed immunity over millennia, is in the dirt armadillos wallow in, and the cases that broke out among landscapers then would be linked to the animals they encounter.

    But leprosy is not endemic in Florida. It is most common in parts of southeast Asia, equatorial Africa, and Brazil.

    “The influx of people, sure it’s a problem and it’s always a possibility,” Williams said. “But we don’t really know.”

    Nevertheless, the questions are being asked with more frequency. On Dec. 19, Ashley St. Clair, a conservative commentator, set off a firestorm on X, formerly Twitter, that her Delta flight from Phoenix to New York was filled with people who had recently
    been processed, released, and brought to the airport by Border Patrol.

    “All the pilots, airline staff, and passengers want to know is: what medical screenings are being done?” she wrote.

    Delta did not respond to questions from RCI about what knowledge it had been provided about its passengers.

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Chris Ahlstrom on Tue Feb 18 14:21:07 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:52:13 -0500
    Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

    Siri Cruise wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

    tye syding wrote:

    <snip>

    Sharia is meaningless in US courts. People can make enforceable
    contracts that agree with Sharia. Or Law of Moses. Or Billy-Bob's
    Big Book of Cajun Myths. Actions contrary to our laws are still
    crimes.

    Throwaway nyms have throwaway thoughts. Funny that.


    How many do you regularly forge and run Rudy...about a dozen or so?

    And how many newsservers?

    Half a dozen or so?

    Yeah.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 16:27:11 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/18/25 16:17, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:41:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 14:06, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    Substantiating citation is absent.

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    That's TB, whereas this is a measles outbreak.
    Substantiation fail.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Mennonites have not historically claimed religious exemptions.

    Oh?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32267628

    The emerging bills in both the House and Senate include language
    patterned on an existing “religious conscience” exemption to laws requiring workers to pay taxes for Social Security and Medicare.

    That's Medicare taxes, not if they refuse vaccinations.
    Another Substantiation fail.


    Next!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonites

    During World War II, Mennonite conscientious objectors ..


    And being a conscientious objector *also* is orthogonal to if they
    refuse vaccinations.
    YA Substantiation fail.

    Keep flailing!

    Mexico's vaccination rate is higher than Texas,

    Do not give a rip, and Texas is not the entire nation.

    Correct: we know better than to assume that TX's vaccination rate is as
    good as the general USA, for I've already provided the cite that shows
    just how crappy the TX vaccination rate is.

    And here is that citation again:

    [quote]

    Tarrant Co: 14.29%
    Gaines Co: 46.15%
    etc

    <https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/data/school/coverage>
    [/quote]


    Keep flailing!


    -hh

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to -hh on Tue Feb 18 14:44:03 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:27:11 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 16:17, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:41:30 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 14:06, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.

    Substantiating citation is absent.

    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03


    That's TB, whereas this is a measles outbreak.

    Both travel together from the 3rd world, deceiver.

    Substantiation fail.

    Yours.



    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.

    Mennonites have not historically claimed religious exemptions.

    Oh?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32267628

    The emerging bills in both the House and Senate include language
    patterned on an existing “religious conscience” exemption to laws requiring workers to pay taxes for Social Security and Medicare.

    That's Medicare taxes, not if they refuse vaccinations.
    Another Substantiation fail.

    "religious exemptions"


    Next!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mennonites

    During World War II, Mennonite conscientious objectors ..


    And being a conscientious objector *also* is orthogonal to if they
    refuse vaccinations.
    YA Substantiation fail.

    "religious exemptions"

    Keep flailing!

    You must, yes.


    Mexico's vaccination rate is higher than Texas,

    Do not give a rip, and Texas is not the entire nation.

    Correct: we know better

    Yet you deny reality:


    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    LTBI screening and treatment are particularly important for immigrants from regions where TB is common. Over half (66 percent) of US LTBI cases occur in people born outside the US, and the case rate of reactivation TB among that group is about 13 times
    higher than among persons born in the US [2]. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommend LTBI screening for all immigrants from high-prevalence countries who have lived in the US for less than five years [7]. There were approximately
    7 million new immigrants in the US in 2010, including approximately 2.7 million from three high-prevalence countries: Mexico, China, and India [8]. This population also includes 1.8-2.3 million undocumented immigrants [9, 10]; these are immigrants who
    either entered the US without legal documentation or who entered legally but have since violated the terms of those documents. Over half of this cohort originated in countries with a high prevalence of TB [9, 10].



    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved to
    the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000 persons
    examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary syphilis (30
    per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis (415 per 100,000
    persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added
    in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per 100,000 persons
    tested). Refugees were offered additional, voluntary interventions,
    including vaccinations and presumptive treatment for parasites. By
    2019, first- and second-dose coverage with measles-containing vaccine
    were 96% and 80%, respectively. In refugee populations for whom
    presumptive treatment is recommended, up to 96% of refugees, depending
    on the specific regimen, were offered and accepted treatment. For the
    139,683 persons identified overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and overseas medical data to the appropriate state or
    local health agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among
    101,119 persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or
    class B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged
    2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a
    complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not
    routinely tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis
    during the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of arrival was 464
    (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those with class B0 or B1
    TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for children with
    class B2 TB.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916
    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread of the disease.

    "We have dodged a bullet this time, we have utilized the justice system
    to ensure that we can continue to protect the public," Landry told
    reporters

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Successful public health campaigns and medical advances have enabled the United States to conquer a range of disfiguring and damaging diseases. Polio, which paralyzed thousands of Americans annually, was wiped out by widespread vaccinations. In 1999, the
    nation’s last hospital for lepers closed its doors in Louisiana. A global campaign eradicated smallpox, while lethal tuberculosis, the “consumption” that stalked characters in decades of literature, seemed beaten by antibiotics. Measles outbreaks
    still occur from time to time, but they are small, local, and easily contained.

    Recently, however, some of these forgotten but still formidable infectious diseases have begun to reappear in the U.S. For two years running, polio has been detected in some New York water samples, and this fall, leprosy re-emerged in Florida, where
    cases of malaria have also been recorded.

    Health officials say they are not sure why these and other infectious diseases are resurfacing. One distinct possibility, which officials are loath to discuss, is that the millions of migrants who have crossed into the country in recent years could be
    bringing the scourges with them, since many are from countries where such rare diseases persist and vaccination programs are not robust.

    “The recent polio and leprosy cases are almost certainly imports to the U.S.,” said Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

    New York City Health Commissioner Ashwin Vasan warned in April that at least half of the migrants who have poured into the city had not been vaccinated against polio. The potentially paralyzing and life-threatening virus remains endemic in two countries
    in the world, Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the World Health Organization. Since President Biden ordered what proved to be a chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, an estimated 90,000 Afghans have come to the U.S. under the terms of
    Operation Allies Welcome.

    It is not clear if those migrants met the polio vaccination requirement. DHS did not respond to a question about whether medical histories were reviewed in the fast-tracked entry of Afghans who got out of their country before the Taliban reimposed its
    control.

    Vasan’s warning pointed directly to the southern border, which has seen record-shattering arrivals on the Biden administration’s watch.

    “More than 50,000 people have come to New York City in the past year shortly after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border,” he wrote in an 11-page letter. “I am writing now to underscore how critical it is that health care providers take a wide range of
    considerations into account when working with people who are seeking asylum.”

    Citing outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters for illegal immigrants, Vasan also noted the arrival of newcomers who either began their journey in a country where tuberculosis is present or passed through such countries en route to the U.S.

    The New York City Health Department did not respond to questions from RealClearInvestigations or to a request to speak with Dr. Vasan, but the numbers have only grown since he sent his letter. Since spring 2022, more than 100,000 migrants had arrived in
    the city, and more than 67,200 were living in taxpayer-funded housing at the end of November, according to the New York Times.

    Last year, the first recorded polio case in the U.S. since 2013 was diagnosed in New York State, with the victim described only as an “unvaccinated man.” Also in 2022, poliovirus was found in the water supply of four New York counties, including Long
    Island, and New York City. Another positive test result was recorded in Rockland County this year, according to the state.

    In the U.S., polio vaccinations remain part of “the routine childhood immunization process” under which the CDC recommends four doses. Adults who grew up in the U.S. are vaccinated, the agency said.

    The last occurrence prior to the New York diagnosis had been in 1979. Since November 2022, the CDC has begun wastewater testing for the poliovirus, so long extinct in the U.S., in selected areas, but the agency did not respond to questions about those
    investigations. It does provide information on COVID and monkeypox, the latter a disease that primarily afflicts the gay population.

    A thorough investigation, exploring all avenues of transmission and trying to source a virus to its root, is common among virus hunters, and the idea that millions of people coming to the U.S. could inadvertently carry with them some infectious disease
    is but one possibility. For example, thus far researchers have been unable to pinpoint where the infamous Ebola virus originates in equatorial Africa.

    'Historically Atypical Countries'

    The situation in the United States is further complicated by the fact that DHS officials don’t know where all of the more than 7.5 million migrants who’ve arrived since Biden took office are living. Those whom Border Patrol agents have encountered
    and processed have immigration court dates, but those dates are years in advance. Many people with uncertain immigration status lack health insurance and stay off the grid as much as possible, meaning even if the U.S. launched some kind of vaccination
    program it would not know where to concentrate its efforts.

    In addition, the historic flood of illegal immigration during the Biden administration has also featured a much more global population. DHS uses the term “historically atypical countries” to describe the panoply of countries outside of Mexico and
    Central America from which illegal immigration has soared. Between 2011 and 2022, the number of annual encounters involving immigrants from historically atypical countries soared from fewer than 8,000 to almost 1 million. The first six months of 2023 saw
    more than half of official encounters – these numbers do not include what Border Patrol calls “gotaways” for whom little information is available – from historically atypical countries. But infectious diseases largely forgotten in the U.S. remain
    public health issues in both hemispheres, and many of those nations have much less robust vaccination programs than most modern Western nations.

    In 1988, when the World Health Organization launched the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, wild poliovirus was evident in 125 countries, but the zone where it remains endemic has shrunk to Afghanistan and Pakistan, with most recent cases occurring
    along the countries’ nearly 1,600-mile border, according to the CDC. Vaccination campaigns have proved problematic under the militant Islamic fundamentalist Taliban, according to the CDC. Oral vaccines in “parts of the south and northeast regions”
    are “allowed only at health facilities, mosques, and polio vaccination sites.”

    In March, Al Jazeera reported that the Taliban would allow a polio vaccination program for children, but precise figures on the country’s overall vaccination rate remain unclear. The World Health Organization estimates that 76% of Afghanistan’s
    children have received a polio vaccine.

    But some countries have even lower vaccination rates. On Nov. 30, for instance, some 700 people, including many from Senegal and Nigeria, walked into the U.S. at the Texas border. Only 63% of Senegal’s children have been vaccinated for polio, and
    various fevers, hepatitis, and malaria are endemic there. Measles, which the U.S. declared eliminated here in 2000, are an issue, too. The WHO estimates 22 million children missed their first measles vaccine last year and more than half of them live in
    just 10 countries, all of which fall in the “historically atypical” immigration list.

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in 2020 to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio and Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according to state health officials. The age and nationality
    of victims is not made public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many countries that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    While few are publicly pushing the panic button, some public health officials worry that a creeping mistrust of vaccines in the wake of the pandemic may make more Americans vulnerable to dangerous and even deadly scourges. Syphilis, for example, has been
    on the rise for many years but rose sharply during the pandemic.

    COVID-19 has drawn the lion’s share of attention from the public health bureaucracy since 2020, leading to shortfalls in other areas, some experts said.

    “All of these diseases are more prevalent in part because of lockdown policies which diverted public health resources and attention worldwide away from its traditional priorities of controlling the spread of these deadly infectious conditions,” Dr.
    Bhattacharya said, referring to measles and other maladies.

    And just as there is no cure for polio, there is no vaccine for some infectious diseases. Malaria, for example, the mosquito-borne fever that killed more workers than yellow fever did when the Panama Canal was built, remains endemic in tropical zones,
    and its path to rare outbreaks in the U.S. usually follows either a trip made abroad or someone moving here, according to health officials in Florida.

    Department spokesman Jae Williams told RCI the exact sources of many infectious disease outbreaks in the Sunshine State remain unknown, but the huge increase in illegal immigrants could be a clue.

    “It’s always a possibility, and our most recent malaria cases appeared to be a strain from Central America,” he said. In other words, the malaria could have been brought by a newcomer or picked up by someone who traveled there and returned.

    Central Florida this summer saw leprosy return, although the exact source remains a mystery, Williams said. Information about the age, sex, and nationality of victims is not public, and most of those who contracted the infectious, skin-disfiguring
    disease were described only as “landscapers.” Various accounts have speculated armadillos are to blame, but armadillos are not newcomers to the region. The theory holds that somehow the leprosy bacteria, which generally requires prolonged contact and
    against which most humans have developed immunity over millennia, is in the dirt armadillos wallow in, and the cases that broke out among landscapers then would be linked to the animals they encounter.

    But leprosy is not endemic in Florida. It is most common in parts of southeast Asia, equatorial Africa, and Brazil.

    “The influx of people, sure it’s a problem and it’s always a possibility,” Williams said. “But we don’t really know.”

    Nevertheless, the questions are being asked with more frequency. On Dec. 19, Ashley St. Clair, a conservative commentator, set off a firestorm on X, formerly Twitter, that her Delta flight from Phoenix to New York was filled with people who had recently
    been processed, released, and brought to the airport by Border Patrol.

    “All the pilots, airline staff, and passengers want to know is: what medical screenings are being done?” she wrote.

    Delta did not respond to questions from RCI about what knowledge it had been provided about its passengers.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to tye syding on Tue Feb 18 19:13:42 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/18/25 16:44, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:27:29 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 15:56, tye syding wrote:
    ...
    We should be knee deep in Ebola by now given you claim, Hole-man.

    "CDC funding" has never been the issue, not before nor since 2014 -
    that's 10 years of real good luck and isolation procedures.

    But who paid for those isolation procedures?

    We did once they got here.

    But was money only spent inside the USA, hmmmm?


    What foreign country were said isolation procedures performed in?

    Gosh, no response on this question.


    Don't be an abject fucking moron, Huntzy.

    Unlike you, I got the full rundown of all of it while being paid to
    attend a professional HSR conference. The TL;DR is that to minimize
    spread, we spent money & resources to curtail it at the source.

    We had been doing that through USAID until this month, but we're now
    being "penny-wise but dollar-foolish" to have cut it off. If you think
    your healthcare is expensive now, just wait.

    -hh

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  • From Baxter@21:1/5 to tye syding on Wed Feb 19 02:54:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218135021.58d638bc@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:58:25 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218120623.6c7df752@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.


    Only in unvaccinated groups.

    We had no need to vaccinate for diseases already eliminated from our
    nation. until illegals immigrants brought them back in.

    We've always had undocumented immigrants. And many immigrant home
    countries are better at vaccinating than the US is.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to tye syding on Wed Feb 19 02:38:41 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218135021.58d638bc@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:58:25 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218120623.6c7df752@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB by
    illegals is confirmed.


    Only in unvaccinated groups.

    We had no need to vaccinate for diseases already eliminated from our
    nation. until illegals immigrants brought them back in.

    What's next - polio vaxes again?


    Ahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

    After 1990
    Polio was eliminated in the Americas by 1994.

    https://www.cdc.gov/polio/vaccines/index.html


    Well, there WAS the 2005 outbreak in an
    isolated Amish community in Minnesota.




    Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
    October 13, 2005

    The first outbreak of polio in the
    United States in 26 years occurred
    earlier this fall in an Amish
    community in central Minnesota,
    state and federal health officials
    reported yesterday.

    Four children have been infected
    with the virus, although none has
    become paralyzed. The Amish typically
    decline to vaccinate their children.
    The first infected child had no known
    exposure to foreigners.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/10/14/polio- outbreak-occurs-among-amish-families-in-minnesota/0fe0558f-dc8d-4052- 8c1e-dce03759d9c1/



    Put your "it's all the fault of illegal
    Mexicans" claim right here:



    Most adults in the United States were vaccinated as children and are therefore likely to be protected from getting polio.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.


    Viruses don't care about your religion.

    Shariah law doesn't care about your daughter's clitoris being removed.


    And that is happening where, again?

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Feb 19 09:56:35 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:13:42 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 16:44, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:27:29 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 15:56, tye syding wrote:
    ...
    We should be knee deep in Ebola by now given you claim, Hole-man.

    "CDC funding" has never been the issue, not before nor since 2014
    - that's 10 years of real good luck and isolation procedures.

    But who paid for those isolation procedures?

    We did once they got here.

    But was money only spent inside the USA, hmmmm?

    Given USAID's tentacles, unlikely.


    What foreign country were said isolation procedures performed in?

    Gosh, no response on this question.

    USA, duh.

    In fact some of our nurses got infected and went into isolation too.

    Don't be an abject fucking moron, Huntzy.

    Unlike you, I got the full rundown of all of it while being paid to
    attend a professional HSR conference.

    So you admit to being a deep state shill, so noted.


    The TL;DR is that to minimize
    spread, we spent money & resources to curtail it at the source.

    The USA was _never_ "the source" - at least on this one... And as to it
    being eradicated?

    Look at this shit:


    https://2017-2020.usaid.gov/ebola
    The End of Ebola in West Africa
    September 30, 2019 marks the end of USAID Pillar II activities and
    investments. The success of our post-Ebola recovery programs across
    the three countries strengthened health systems, transformed food
    security and sparked economic growth(link is external), while behavior
    change through community engagement(link is external) built capacity
    for future emergencies.

    1.) It has NOT ended.

    2.) Food security is non-Ebola leftard mission creep.


    3.) Economic growth is their own bidnits, not ours.

    4.) Their capacity has failed.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/22/opinions/ebola-outbreak-drc-green/index.html

    ...in the response are promising signs that the government of the DRC
    will continue to prioritize attention to the outbreak.

    We are far from containing this disease...

    We had been doing that through USAID until this month,

    Doing what, playing "food security" fraud games with local warlords?

    Growing their idiot fucking stone age economy?

    It's just more of the same lefatrd interventionist imperialism, not
    a thing more.


    but we're now
    being "penny-wise but dollar-foolish" to have cut it off.

    You're an irredeemable tax dollar blood tick..

    If you think your healthcare is expensive now, just wait.

    -hh


    If you think Fraudci is going to walk on all this and more, think again.

    https://12ft.io/proxy

    Millions of taxpayer dollars were spent on transgender surgeries and treatments on animals, House Oversight Committee Chairman Eli Crane (R-AZ) confirmed yet again this week.

    According to reports, the committee revealed that $241 million in taxpayer dollars were used to study transgender surgeries and treatments on animals. What is perhaps more, former National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases chief Anthony Fauci
    gave the green light to the bulk of these cruel and unusual experiments.

    “Insane, right?” Crane said of the report on Tuesday.

    He highlighted a $1.1 million grant to “give female lab rats testosterone to mimic transgender male humans and then overdose them with this party drug to see if animals who are taking test — female animals taking testosterone,” he said, “were
    more likely to overdose on the sex party drug than animals who are not taking testosterone.”

    Goodman added that it is extremely difficult to navigate the federal databases to uncover this research.

    “You essentially need a degree in Information Technology to navigate the federal spending databases to find any of this stuff,” he said.

    “So what you found is we’re not being very transparent with what we’re spending these funds on?” Crane asked. Goodman responded, “Not at all, and it’s by design.”

    He also added that Fauci funded about 95 percent of the transgender
    animal experiments.

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Wed Feb 19 10:06:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:38:41 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218135021.58d638bc@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:58:25 +0000
    Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

    tye syding <bn@wy.no> wrote in news:20250218120623.6c7df752@z-z:

    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:25:06 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    In the meantime, even if your claim was true, why did these
    Americans leave themselves so profoundly unprotected?

    1.) The return of multiple "cured" diseases like measles and TB
    by illegals is confirmed.


    Only in unvaccinated groups.

    We had no need to vaccinate for diseases already eliminated from our nation. until illegals immigrants brought them back in.

    What's next - polio vaxes again?


    Ahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine

    After 1990
    Polio was eliminated in the Americas by 1994.

    https://www.cdc.gov/polio/vaccines/index.html


    Well, there WAS the 2005 outbreak in an
    isolated Amish community in Minnesota.

    So?

    An outlier is not germane.


    The first outbreak of polio in the
    United States in 26 years

    So basically eliminated, as stated.

    Put your "it's all the fault of illegal
    Mexicans" claim right here:

    No worries:



    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved to
    the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000 persons
    examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary syphilis (30
    per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis (415 per 100,000
    persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added
    in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per 100,000 persons
    tested). Refugees were offered additional, voluntary interventions,
    including vaccinations and presumptive treatment for parasites. By
    2019, first- and second-dose coverage with measles-containing vaccine
    were 96% and 80%, respectively. In refugee populations for whom
    presumptive treatment is recommended, up to 96% of refugees, depending
    on the specific regimen, were offered and accepted treatment. For the
    139,683 persons identified overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and overseas medical data to the appropriate state or
    local health agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among
    101,119 persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or
    class B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged
    2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a
    complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not
    routinely tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis
    during the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of arrival was 464
    (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those with class B0 or B1
    TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for children with
    class B2 TB.


    Btw - your isolated example is 20 years old.


    Most adults in the United States were vaccinated as children and are therefore likely to be protected from getting polio.


    2.) Religious freedom is granted to all in our nation.


    Viruses don't care about your religion.

    Shariah law doesn't care about your daughter's clitoris being
    removed.

    And that is happening where, again?

    Minnesota apparently:

    https://www.house.mn.gov/hrd/pubs/ss/ssfgm.pdf

    In 2017, the Minnesota House considered legislation to address the practice of female genital mutilation.
    This short subject provides an introduction for legislators on the practice of female genital mutilation and
    restrictions under current Minnesota law.
    What is female
    genital mutilation?
    Female genital mutilation is a general term for any procedure that intentionally
    alters or injures the female genital organs for nonmedical reasons.
    The World Health Organization divides different types of female genital mutilation
    into four categories:
    • Type 1, also called circumcision or clitoridectomy, is the partial or total removal of the clitoris.
    • Type 2, excision, involves the partial or total removal of the clitoris and the
    labia minora.
    • Type 3, called infibulation, involves the narrowing of the vaginal opening by creating a covering seal which typically involves cutting and
    repositioning the labia minora, labia majora, or both.
    • Type 4, includes any other harmful procedure to the female genitalia performed for a nonmedical purpose such as pricking, piercing, scraping,
    and cauterizing.
    Female genital mutilation is usually performed on minors.
    Why is female
    genital mutilation
    performed?
    A wide range of communities originating in Africa, the Middle East, and Asia perform female genital mutilation. The reasons for performing the procedure vary
    among the communities, but include a mixture of social and cultural reasons. Many cultures see female genital mutilation as a social norm and an important rite
    of passage for young girls. Some communities associate it with cultural ideals of
    modesty and femininity. For some communities, female genital mutilation is considered a religious procedure, though it is not particular to any religious faith.
    The practice exists in Muslim, Christian, and Jewish communities, but it predates
    the origins of Christianity and Islam. Female genital mutilation is also seen as a
    way to control female sexuality.

    And Michigan:


    https://www.twincities.com/2018/11/20/genital-mutilation-charges-involving-minnesota-families-dismissed-in-detroit-area-case/

    DETROIT — A federal judge dismissed some charges Tuesday against eight people — including two doctors — in the genital mutilation of nine girls at a suburban Detroit clinic, finding it’s up to states rather than Congress to regulate the practice.

    U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman dismissed mutilation and conspiracy charges against Dr. Jumana Nagarwala, who performed the surgery, and Dr. Fakhruddin Attar, who allowed his clinic in Livonia, Mich., to be used for the procedure.

    The same charges were dismissed against Attar’s wife, Farida, and Tahera Shafiq, who assisted in the procedure, as well as four women who took their daughters to the clinic, including two Minnesotans.

    Four of the girls are from Michigan, three are from Illinois and two are from Minnesota. The Minnesota mothers are from suburban Hennepin and Anoka counties. The Associated Press isn’t naming the mothers to protect their daughters’ identities.

    “Congress overstepped its bounds by legislating to prohibit (female
    genital mutilation),” Friedman wrote in a 28-page opinion.


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-more-mich-doctors-charged-in-female-genital-mutilation-case/

    DETROIT -- A Detroit doctor and his wife were arrested Friday morning and charged with their alleged participation in a conspiracy to perform female genital mutilations on young girls, federal prosecutors say.

    Fakhruddin Attar, M.D., 53, and his wife, Farida Attar, 50, both of Livonia, Michigan, are charged with conspiring to perform the mutilations on girls between 6-8 out of Fakhruddin Attar’s medical clinic in Livonia. They’re accused of conspiring with
    Jumana Nagarwala, another Michigan physician who was arrested in Detroit on April 12.

    Female genital mutilation involves removing external female genitalia partially or in full, sometimes for religious or cultural reasons. Between 100 and 140 million women and girls worldwide are thought to have undergone such a procedure, which is
    internationally denounced as a violation of human rights, according to the United Nations.

    Female genital mutilation of minors is illegal in the U.S. unless there’s a legitimate health reason. According to a Department of Justice statement, the three are believed to be the first people charged under federal law 18 U.S.C. 116, which
    criminalizes the practice.

    According to the criminal complaint, some of the minor victims traveled interstate with their families to have the mutilations performed. Nagarwala was arrested after two Minnesota 7-year-olds identified her as the person who performed procedures on them
    in February at the clinic in Livonia, according to the FBI.

    In a court filing, the FBI said many more girls have told investigators
    that Nagarwala performed procedures on their genitals.

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to Baxter on Wed Feb 19 10:10:29 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 02:54:35 -0000 (UTC)
    Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

    We had no need to vaccinate for diseases already eliminated from our nation. until illegals immigrants brought them back in.

    We've always had undocumented immigrants.

    Non sequitur, the new crop carry archaic diseases back to us;



    https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/undocumented-immigrants-face-unique-set-risks-tuberculosis-treatment-just/2016-03

    LTBI screening and treatment are particularly important for immigrants from regions where TB is common. Over half (66 percent) of US LTBI cases occur in people born outside the US, and the case rate of reactivation TB among that group is about 13 times
    higher than among persons born in the US [2]. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommend LTBI screening for all immigrants from high-prevalence countries who have lived in the US for less than five years [7]. There were approximately
    7 million new immigrants in the US in 2010, including approximately 2.7 million from three high-prevalence countries: Mexico, China, and India [8]. This population also includes 1.8-2.3 million undocumented immigrants [9, 10]; these are immigrants who
    either entered the US without legal documentation or who entered legally but have since violated the terms of those documents. Over half of this cohort originated in countries with a high prevalence of TB [9, 10].



    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm

    Results: During 2014–2019, approximately 3.5 million persons moved to
    the United States from abroad, including 3.2 million immigrants,
    313,890 refugees, and 95,993 eligible others. Among these, the overseas examination identified 139,683 persons (3,903 per 100,000 persons
    examined) with class B TB, 54 with primary or secondary syphilis (30
    per 100,000 persons tested), 761 with latent syphilis (415 per 100,000
    persons tested), and, after laboratory testing for gonorrhea was added
    in 2016, a total of 131 with gonorrhea (374 per 100,000 persons
    tested). Refugees were offered additional, voluntary interventions,
    including vaccinations and presumptive treatment for parasites. By
    2019, first- and second-dose coverage with measles-containing vaccine
    were 96% and 80%, respectively. In refugee populations for whom
    presumptive treatment is recommended, up to 96% of refugees, depending
    on the specific regimen, were offered and accepted treatment. For the
    139,683 persons identified overseas with class B TB, EDN sent arrival notifications and overseas medical data to the appropriate state or
    local health agency to facilitate postarrival TB examinations. Among
    101,119 persons identified overseas as having class B0 TB (6,586) or
    class B1 TB (94,533), a total of 67,432 (67%) had a complete
    postarrival examination reported to EDN. Among 35,814 children aged
    2–14 years identified overseas with class B2 TB, 20,758 (58%) had a
    complete postarrival examination reported to EDN. (Adults are not
    routinely tested for immune reactivity to Mycobacterium tuberculosis
    during the overseas medical examination.) Among those with a complete postarrival examination reported to EDN, the number with a diagnosis of culture-positive TB disease within the first year of arrival was 464
    (688 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for those with class B0 or B1
    TB and was 11 (53 cases per 100,000 persons examined) for children with
    class B2 TB.

    https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigrant-tuberculosis-louisiana-lawsuit-ice-1973916
    Louisiana is suing Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas after an illegal immigrant arrived in the state with a rare, drug-resistant form of tuberculosis.

    Republican Governor Jeff Landry and Republican Attorney General Liz Murrill said Wednesday that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials moved the Chinese national around in detention, leading to contact with at least 200 other detainees
    and staff.

    The officials said they had worked to isolate the case, but that ICE had ignored their calls for other detainees to be held until cleared by the Louisiana Department of Health, potentially leading to the spread of the disease.

    "We have dodged a bullet this time, we have utilized the justice system
    to ensure that we can continue to protect the public," Landry told
    reporters

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0

    Successful public health campaigns and medical advances have enabled the United States to conquer a range of disfiguring and damaging diseases. Polio, which paralyzed thousands of Americans annually, was wiped out by widespread vaccinations. In 1999, the
    nation’s last hospital for lepers closed its doors in Louisiana. A global campaign eradicated smallpox, while lethal tuberculosis, the “consumption” that stalked characters in decades of literature, seemed beaten by antibiotics. Measles outbreaks
    still occur from time to time, but they are small, local, and easily contained.

    Recently, however, some of these forgotten but still formidable infectious diseases have begun to reappear in the U.S. For two years running, polio has been detected in some New York water samples, and this fall, leprosy re-emerged in Florida, where
    cases of malaria have also been recorded.

    Health officials say they are not sure why these and other infectious diseases are resurfacing. One distinct possibility, which officials are loath to discuss, is that the millions of migrants who have crossed into the country in recent years could be
    bringing the scourges with them, since many are from countries where such rare diseases persist and vaccination programs are not robust.

    “The recent polio and leprosy cases are almost certainly imports to the U.S.,” said Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

    New York City Health Commissioner Ashwin Vasan warned in April that at least half of the migrants who have poured into the city had not been vaccinated against polio. The potentially paralyzing and life-threatening virus remains endemic in two countries
    in the world, Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the World Health Organization. Since President Biden ordered what proved to be a chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan in 2021, an estimated 90,000 Afghans have come to the U.S. under the terms of
    Operation Allies Welcome.

    It is not clear if those migrants met the polio vaccination requirement. DHS did not respond to a question about whether medical histories were reviewed in the fast-tracked entry of Afghans who got out of their country before the Taliban reimposed its
    control.

    Vasan’s warning pointed directly to the southern border, which has seen record-shattering arrivals on the Biden administration’s watch.

    “More than 50,000 people have come to New York City in the past year shortly after crossing the U.S.-Mexico border,” he wrote in an 11-page letter. “I am writing now to underscore how critical it is that health care providers take a wide range of
    considerations into account when working with people who are seeking asylum.”

    Citing outbreaks of chickenpox in shelters for illegal immigrants, Vasan also noted the arrival of newcomers who either began their journey in a country where tuberculosis is present or passed through such countries en route to the U.S.

    The New York City Health Department did not respond to questions from RealClearInvestigations or to a request to speak with Dr. Vasan, but the numbers have only grown since he sent his letter. Since spring 2022, more than 100,000 migrants had arrived in
    the city, and more than 67,200 were living in taxpayer-funded housing at the end of November, according to the New York Times.

    Last year, the first recorded polio case in the U.S. since 2013 was diagnosed in New York State, with the victim described only as an “unvaccinated man.” Also in 2022, poliovirus was found in the water supply of four New York counties, including Long
    Island, and New York City. Another positive test result was recorded in Rockland County this year, according to the state.

    In the U.S., polio vaccinations remain part of “the routine childhood immunization process” under which the CDC recommends four doses. Adults who grew up in the U.S. are vaccinated, the agency said.

    The last occurrence prior to the New York diagnosis had been in 1979. Since November 2022, the CDC has begun wastewater testing for the poliovirus, so long extinct in the U.S., in selected areas, but the agency did not respond to questions about those
    investigations. It does provide information on COVID and monkeypox, the latter a disease that primarily afflicts the gay population.

    A thorough investigation, exploring all avenues of transmission and trying to source a virus to its root, is common among virus hunters, and the idea that millions of people coming to the U.S. could inadvertently carry with them some infectious disease
    is but one possibility. For example, thus far researchers have been unable to pinpoint where the infamous Ebola virus originates in equatorial Africa.

    'Historically Atypical Countries'

    The situation in the United States is further complicated by the fact that DHS officials don’t know where all of the more than 7.5 million migrants who’ve arrived since Biden took office are living. Those whom Border Patrol agents have encountered
    and processed have immigration court dates, but those dates are years in advance. Many people with uncertain immigration status lack health insurance and stay off the grid as much as possible, meaning even if the U.S. launched some kind of vaccination
    program it would not know where to concentrate its efforts.

    In addition, the historic flood of illegal immigration during the Biden administration has also featured a much more global population. DHS uses the term “historically atypical countries” to describe the panoply of countries outside of Mexico and
    Central America from which illegal immigration has soared. Between 2011 and 2022, the number of annual encounters involving immigrants from historically atypical countries soared from fewer than 8,000 to almost 1 million. The first six months of 2023 saw
    more than half of official encounters – these numbers do not include what Border Patrol calls “gotaways” for whom little information is available – from historically atypical countries. But infectious diseases largely forgotten in the U.S. remain
    public health issues in both hemispheres, and many of those nations have much less robust vaccination programs than most modern Western nations.

    In 1988, when the World Health Organization launched the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, wild poliovirus was evident in 125 countries, but the zone where it remains endemic has shrunk to Afghanistan and Pakistan, with most recent cases occurring
    along the countries’ nearly 1,600-mile border, according to the CDC. Vaccination campaigns have proved problematic under the militant Islamic fundamentalist Taliban, according to the CDC. Oral vaccines in “parts of the south and northeast regions”
    are “allowed only at health facilities, mosques, and polio vaccination sites.”

    In March, Al Jazeera reported that the Taliban would allow a polio vaccination program for children, but precise figures on the country’s overall vaccination rate remain unclear. The World Health Organization estimates that 76% of Afghanistan’s
    children have received a polio vaccine.

    But some countries have even lower vaccination rates. On Nov. 30, for instance, some 700 people, including many from Senegal and Nigeria, walked into the U.S. at the Texas border. Only 63% of Senegal’s children have been vaccinated for polio, and
    various fevers, hepatitis, and malaria are endemic there. Measles, which the U.S. declared eliminated here in 2000, are an issue, too. The WHO estimates 22 million children missed their first measles vaccine last year and more than half of them live in
    just 10 countries, all of which fall in the “historically atypical” immigration list.

    Measles cases have risen in the U.S., from 13 individual cases in 2020 to 121 in 2022, according to the CDC. Recent outbreaks in Ohio and Illinois have all occurred among unvaccinated children, according to state health officials. The age and nationality
    of victims is not made public, but the measles vaccination rate is below 70% in many countries that have sent immigrants to the U.S. recently.

    While few are publicly pushing the panic button, some public health officials worry that a creeping mistrust of vaccines in the wake of the pandemic may make more Americans vulnerable to dangerous and even deadly scourges. Syphilis, for example, has been
    on the rise for many years but rose sharply during the pandemic.

    COVID-19 has drawn the lion’s share of attention from the public health bureaucracy since 2020, leading to shortfalls in other areas, some experts said.

    “All of these diseases are more prevalent in part because of lockdown policies which diverted public health resources and attention worldwide away from its traditional priorities of controlling the spread of these deadly infectious conditions,” Dr.
    Bhattacharya said, referring to measles and other maladies.

    And just as there is no cure for polio, there is no vaccine for some infectious diseases. Malaria, for example, the mosquito-borne fever that killed more workers than yellow fever did when the Panama Canal was built, remains endemic in tropical zones,
    and its path to rare outbreaks in the U.S. usually follows either a trip made abroad or someone moving here, according to health officials in Florida.

    Department spokesman Jae Williams told RCI the exact sources of many infectious disease outbreaks in the Sunshine State remain unknown, but the huge increase in illegal immigrants could be a clue.

    “It’s always a possibility, and our most recent malaria cases appeared to be a strain from Central America,” he said. In other words, the malaria could have been brought by a newcomer or picked up by someone who traveled there and returned.

    Central Florida this summer saw leprosy return, although the exact source remains a mystery, Williams said. Information about the age, sex, and nationality of victims is not public, and most of those who contracted the infectious, skin-disfiguring
    disease were described only as “landscapers.” Various accounts have speculated armadillos are to blame, but armadillos are not newcomers to the region. The theory holds that somehow the leprosy bacteria, which generally requires prolonged contact and
    against which most humans have developed immunity over millennia, is in the dirt armadillos wallow in, and the cases that broke out among landscapers then would be linked to the animals they encounter.

    But leprosy is not endemic in Florida. It is most common in parts of southeast Asia, equatorial Africa, and Brazil.

    “The influx of people, sure it’s a problem and it’s always a possibility,” Williams said. “But we don’t really know.”

    Nevertheless, the questions are being asked with more frequency. On Dec. 19, Ashley St. Clair, a conservative commentator, set off a firestorm on X, formerly Twitter, that her Delta flight from Phoenix to New York was filled with people who had recently
    been processed, released, and brought to the airport by Border Patrol.

    “All the pilots, airline staff, and passengers want to know is: what medical screenings are being done?” she wrote.

    Delta did not respond to questions from RCI about what knowledge it had been provided about its passengers.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to tye syding on Wed Feb 19 19:09:13 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On 2/19/25 11:56, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:13:42 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 16:44, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:27:29 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 15:56, tye syding wrote:
    ...
    We should be knee deep in Ebola by now given you claim, Hole-man.

    "CDC funding" has never been the issue, not before nor since 2014
    - that's 10 years of real good luck and isolation procedures.

    But who paid for those isolation procedures?

    We did once they got here.

    But was money only spent inside the USA, hmmmm?

    Given USAID's tentacles, unlikely.

    Where the money happens to come from isn't germane to the question of if
    you want to invest in disease prevention for US citizens, and if so, if
    that prevention extends beyond the USA's physical borders.



    What foreign country were said isolation procedures performed in?

    Gosh, no response on this question.

    USA, duh.

    USA...but absolutely nowhere else?
    (hint: see above)

    In fact some of our nurses got infected and went into isolation too.

    There were 875 confirmed healthcare personnel infections in Africa. How
    many of these were Americans too?



    Don't be an abject fucking moron, Huntzy.

    Unlike you, I got the full rundown of all of it while being paid to
    attend a professional HSR conference.

    So you admit to being a deep state shill, so noted.

    Nah, just a professional where we kept our skills current.

    Now I know that you didn't need continuing education to know how to keep
    sling trash bags into the back of a garbage truck, but that's no reason
    for you to have such a blatantly obvious inferiority complex.


    The TL;DR is that to minimize
    spread, we spent money & resources to curtail it at the source.

    The USA was _never_ "the source" - at least on this one... And as to it
    being eradicated?

    Never said it was. What I was asking you is if you thought that
    prevention was a good or bad policy to minimize domestic risks.

    On that question, you've avoided stating a clear position.
    Hmm...how "brave" of you!


    -hh

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  • From tye syding@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Feb 20 15:17:16 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:09:13 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/19/25 11:56, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:13:42 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 16:44, tye syding wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:27:29 -0500
    -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

    On 2/18/25 15:56, tye syding wrote:
    ...
    We should be knee deep in Ebola by now given you claim,
    Hole-man.

    "CDC funding" has never been the issue, not before nor since
    2014
    - that's 10 years of real good luck and isolation procedures.

    But who paid for those isolation procedures?

    We did once they got here.

    But was money only spent inside the USA, hmmmm?

    Given USAID's tentacles, unlikely.

    Where the money happens to come from isn't germane


    FUCK YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL YOU MENDACIOUS DEEP STATE ASSHAT!

    This is the kind of shit YOU defend:

    https://saraacarter.com/lee-zeldin-slams-biden-admin-over-2-billion-handout-to-stacey-abrams-linked-nonprofit/


    A nonprofit with ties to Democrat Stacey Abrams has become the center of a controversy after receiving a staggering $2 billion in taxpayer funds. According to the Washington Free Beacon, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) discovered that the
    funds were initially allocated by the Biden administration’s Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and were earmarked for Power Forward Communities, a group with minimal prior revenue.

    In April 2024, the EPA awarded Power Forward Communities the grant as part of the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program. The timing and size of the grant have raised eyebrows, given that Power Forward Communities was established in late 2023 and reported
    only $100 in revenue during its first three months.

    According to the Free Beacon, “Power Forward Communities’ grant was one of just eight Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund grants that the EPA doled out in April 2024 and that, altogether, totaled $20 billion. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Feb.
    13 that his staff and Department of Government Efficiency officials discovered that the Biden administration parked that same $20 billion at an outside financial institution before leaving office, limiting the federal government’s oversight of the
    program.”

    With Power Forward Communities being linked to Stacey Abrams, ethical questions have arisen over the beneficiaries of taxpayer dollars under the Biden administration. Critics are questioning the selection process for these massive grants and whether
    political favoritism played a role. Republicans have long voiced concerns that Biden administration initiatives would be used to bolster organizations specifically created to receive federal funding under programs like the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund.

    “When we learned about the Biden Administration’s scheme to quickly park $20 billion outside the agency, we suspected that some organizations were created out of thin air just to take advantage of this,” Zeldin told the Free Beacon. “I made a
    commitment to members of Congress and to the American people to be a good steward of tax dollars and I’ve wasted no time in keeping my word.”

    “As we continue to learn more about where some of this money went, it is even more apparent how far-reaching and widely accepted this waste and abuse has been,” he continued. “It’s extremely concerning that an organization that reported just $100
    in revenue in 2023 was chosen to receive $2 billion. That’s 20 million times the organization’s reported revenue.”

    Zeldin reminded Americans that President Trump was elected with a
    “mandate from the American people to stop the fraud and abuse by
    leaders who irresponsibly shoveled boat loads of cash to far-left,
    activist groups in the name of environmental justice and climate
    equity, instead of serving the American people,” adding that “those
    days are over.”

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Sun Feb 23 23:45:14 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    Mitchell Holman wrote:
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vacci
    nations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.

    No, we can't.

    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Viruses don't don't care about that.

    They only want to infect people.

    And anti-vaxxers like Senator Brainworm
    want to help them.

    Well said.

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Feb 23 23:55:22 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    -hh wrote:
    On 2/16/25 13:00, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php


    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles
    back to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Because Amish & Mennonites are so well known for embracing the
    technology of air travel?   /s

    The outbreak is happening in what state officials
    are calling a "close-knit, undervaccinated"
    Mennonite community in Gaines County, a rural
    area in West Texas about 87 miles southwest of
    Lubbock. But a DSHS spokesperson told the
    Associated Press that the Mennonite church isn't
    the reason for the outbreak.

    "The church isn't the reason that they’re not
    vaccinated," DSHS spokesperson Lara Anton told
    the AP. "It's all personal choice and you can do
    whatever you want. It's just that the community
    doesn't go and get regular health care."

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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to mxplztylc on Sun Feb 23 23:50:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.democrats.d, or.politics

    mxplztylc wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:00:25 -0000 (UTC)
    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

    On 2025-02-16, Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/measles-vaccine-vaccinations-outbreak-texas-20169162.php

    A West Texas community is grappling with the
    largest measles outbreak in the state in
    nearly 30 years. Officials are concerned that
    hundreds may be infected with the otherwise
    rare disease because of a lack of vaccinations.

    The Texas Department of State Health Services
    reported Friday that over the last three weeks,
    the agency has identified 48 confirmed cases of
    measles, which is characterized by rashes that
    may cover the entire body, along with a high
    fever and cold symptoms. The DSHS said 13 of
    the 48 patients have been hospitalized, most of
    the cases are children younger than 18, and
    every confirmed case is either unvaccinated or
    has an unknown vaccination status.

    You can thank your illegal migrants for bringing measles back
    to the USA.
    Among other diseases like TB for example.

    Factual and frightening too.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/ss/ss7102a1.htm



    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7170192/


    must also receive overseas preventive care and basic medical screening. Therefore, although immigrants (especially undocumented immigrants) and refugees may pose a potential reservoir for the spread of emerging
    infectious diseases to the US, they are significantly less likely than unregulated travelers to spark a true epidemic in the US. This stated, a
    number of emerging infections could theoretically expand their range
    because of the movement of immigrant and refugee populations.

    "significantly less likely than unregulated
    travelers to spark a true epidemic in the US"

    https://highlandcountypress.com/opinions/leprosy-polio-malaria-tb-measles-and-massive-unscreened-illegals#gsc.tab=0


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