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  • 10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned? [telecom]

    From The Telecom Digest@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 12 10:32:14 2023
    Posted by BeauHD on Wednesday June 07, 2023 @11:30PM from the then-and-now dept.

    An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Register:

    The world got a first glimpse into the US government's
    far-reaching surveillance of American citizens' communications --
    namely, their Verizon telephone calls -- 10 years ago this week
    when Edward Snowden's initial leaks hit the press. [...] In the
    decade since then, "reformers have made real progress advancing
    the bipartisan notion that Americans' liberty and security are
    not mutually exclusive," [US Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)]
    said. "That has delivered tangible results: in 2015 Congress
    ended bulk collection of Americans' phone records by passing the
    USA Freedom Act." This bill sought to end the daily snooping into
    American's phone calls by forcing telcos to collect the records
    and make the Feds apply for the information.

    https://tinyurl.com/4jjy2eue

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 14 08:19:18 2023
    Am 12.06.2023 um 10:32:14 Uhr schrieb The Telecom Digest:

    10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?

    Most people have learned nothing. They don't save their files on their
    own machines, they use services from Google etc.

    Many people use Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter, Tiktok.

    They don't care if they are spied out.

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  • From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to Marco Moock on Wed Jun 14 20:13:49 2023
    On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 08:19:18AM +0200, Marco Moock wrote:
    Am 12.06.2023 um 10:32:14 Uhr schrieb The Telecom Digest:

    10 Years After Snowden's First Leak, What Have We Learned?

    "We" weren't the ones who needed the lesson. Our government learned
    that when it hires people whom have a conscience and orders them to
    break the law, bad things happen.

    Most people have learned nothing. They don't save their files on their
    own machines, they use services from Google etc.

    Many people use Facebook, Whatsapp, Twitter, Tiktok.

    They don't care if they are spied out.

    I think there's a kinder, gentler explanation: most people know that
    almost everything they do on their computer while at home is a trivial
    pursuit of entertainment, and not worth protecting. I don't keep my
    back records in the cloud, nor my tax files, but I keep photos of my
    family there, and pictures of our garden, and a blog as well.

    The key isn't to care about spying: it's to never put things out in
    public that we might be embarrassed to see on a billboard.

    Bill

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