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  • Re: What is the advantage of gopher?

    From jeorge@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Tue Feb 28 10:51:37 2023
    On 2/28/23 12:39 PM, Wanderer wrote:
    What are the advantages of gopher? Is it fast? I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs, have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote devices.
    Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    What would it take to set up a cloud server for gopher?

    Ask the Magic AWK ball:
    gopher://rawtext.club/7/~zilog/cgi-bin/AWKball.awk

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 12:39:04 2023
    What are the advantages of gopher? Is it fast? I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs, have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote devices.
    Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    What would it take to set up a cloud server for gopher?

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 28 21:01:30 2023
    Am 28.02.2023 um 12:39:04 Uhr schrieb Wanderer:

    What are the advantages of gopher?

    It is text-only, so very secure, fast and without the modern web's
    shitty use of JavaScript.

    What would it take to set up a cloud server for gopher?

    You need a gopher server.
    Do some googling, there should be information how to set one up.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed Mar 1 08:17:30 2023
    Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:
    What are the advantages of gopher?

    In terms of the protocol itself compared to HTTP (etc.) the main
    advantage is that it's very simple and easy to fully understand. So
    if you're writing a server or client for it entirely from scratch,
    it's potentially easier to write a complete Gopher implementation.

    Is it fast?

    It doesn't do any magic that makes transfers go faster, but indexes
    are generally smaller files than HTML index pages just due to the
    simpler and more limited design of the gophermap format. On the
    other hand, HTTP can compress those index files (and any other
    content) on-the-fly.

    I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a
    layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs,
    have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote
    devices. Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    Compared to HTTP or FTP, I don't think Gopher has any performance
    advantage for that. SFTP, SCP, etc. will also handle the encryption
    for you, which Gopher won't.

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Wed Mar 1 10:19:21 2023
    Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:
    What are the advantages of gopher?

    In terms of the protocol itself compared to HTTP (etc.) the main
    advantage is that it's very simple and easy to fully understand. So
    if you're writing a server or client for it entirely from scratch,
    it's potentially easier to write a complete Gopher implementation.

    Is it fast?

    It doesn't do any magic that makes transfers go faster, but indexes
    are generally smaller files than HTML index pages just due to the
    simpler and more limited design of the gophermap format. On the
    other hand, HTTP can compress those index files (and any other
    content) on-the-fly.

    I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a
    layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs,
    have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote
    devices. Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    Compared to HTTP or FTP, I don't think Gopher has any performance
    advantage for that. SFTP, SCP, etc. will also handle the encryption
    for you, which Gopher won't.

    Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. For now, I'll poke around gopherspace
    and see what I find.

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  • From Anthk@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Mon Mar 13 22:25:50 2023
    On 2023-02-28, Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:
    What are the advantages of gopher? Is it fast? I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs, have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote devices.
    Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    What would it take to set up a cloud server for gopher?

    I can read articles with just netcat and less.

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  • From SPAMian_jones_01@yahoo.co.uk@21:1/5 to Wanderer on Wed May 17 21:35:26 2023
    Hi,

    Advantages compared to www?

    The advantage over the web, if you like blogging (phloging), is that you
    don't have to worry about layout, no inline images, css or html to worry
    about. You just create plain old text documents, and gopher menus if you
    want to create links to other documents or be creative and make some
    kind of application.

    It's fast and easy to use, you write files or put them in the directory
    tree somewhere and you can then download or view them, depending on your
    gopher client and .mailcap configuration.

    You can pretty easily set up a gopher server, if you have some linux or
    unix hosting, by installing geomyidae or gophernicus. Both seem to be
    widely available.

    If you want to see some of what you can do with it, then grab yourself a
    gopher client (gopher?) or text web client that supports gopher (w3m or
    lynx) and head on over to my gopherhole: gopher://gopher.icu

    Give it a go and see how you get on.

    Best regards,

    IanJ

    Wanderer <dont@emailme.com> wrote:
    What are the advantages of gopher? Is it fast? I get that it is just a file transfer protocol but that is just a layer. Programs are just files. I could send encrypted programs, have it decrypted and run and use it to control and update remote devices.
    Is there any advantage to gopher over other protocols?

    What would it take to set up a cloud server for gopher?

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