• Re: they shoot themselves into the foot (Re: Good Bye Stack-Overflow)

    From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Nov 15 17:00:27 2024
    Hi,

    I personally like that ChatGPT tolerates all my
    sloppiness, since I am always in a hurry, don't
    have time for some bullshit.

    And I pay the bill by myself, if ChatGPT doesn't
    understand me. I don't need some moderator to
    force some ideal into my throat, anyway

    most of the time ChatGPT understands me
    nevertheless. Has probably to do how
    the artificial intelligenc of ChatGPT works:

    Attention Is All You Need
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

    But stack overflow gets also drained by other
    developments like for example:

    - Thousends of tutorial web sites:
    There is a real cottage industry, of
    commercial web sites, that explain you
    web programming etc.. They are commercial
    since they show banner ads.

    - Thousends of tutorial videos:
    There is a similar cottage industry
    for videos. Also commercial because
    the show ads. Even google search
    doesn't show stack overflow as first
    result anymore.

    - Declining Business Model Job Search
    With "low code", the number of programmer
    jobs as we know it will go down. A website
    specialized on job advertising will automatically
    loose revenue:

    https://stackoverflow.co/advertising/

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot.
    They adopted the academic closed world attitute,
    as can be seen here, not noticing that the John

    Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical
    computer science titanic A-class member:

    As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched: "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?"
    This is a low-quality question, in my view. https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/

    Now try the same with ChatGPT:

    Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?

    A: It sounds like your Random object might not be
    re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same
    sequence of numbers every time you run your program.
    By default, Random is seeded with the current time in
     milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in
    quick succession, it might receive the same seed and
    generate the same numbers.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone:

    (Bit rot, because they did everything in a
    facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent
    you from deleting you own out dated stuff)

    CoincidenceIDontThinkSo
    https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE

    The Fall of Stack Overflow
    https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

    The downfall is related to the appearance of
    ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false
    and others who spammed stackoverflow for years

    with their infinite dif/2 nonsense.

    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Nov 15 16:47:55 2024
    Hi,

    Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot.
    They adopted the academic closed world attitute,
    as can be seen here, not noticing that the John

    Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical
    computer science titanic A-class member:

    As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched: "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?"
    This is a low-quality question, in my view. https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/

    Now try the same with ChatGPT:

    Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?

    A: It sounds like your Random object might not be
    re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same
    sequence of numbers every time you run your program.
    By default, Random is seeded with the current time in
    milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in
    quick succession, it might receive the same seed and
    generate the same numbers.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone:

    (Bit rot, because they did everything in a
    facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent
    you from deleting you own out dated stuff)

    CoincidenceIDontThinkSo
    https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE

    The Fall of Stack Overflow https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

    The downfall is related to the appearance of
    ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false
    and others who spammed stackoverflow for years

    with their infinite dif/2 nonsense.

    Bye

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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Nov 15 17:11:21 2024
    Hi,

    Also Stack Overflow is very bad in reading
    the signs of the times:

    Generative AI is now integral to the
    technologist workflow, yet many developers
    are still skeptical. According to our 2024
    #Developer Survey, 79% of respondents cited
    misinformation as their primary ethical
    concern regarding AI.
    https://x.com/stackoverflow/

    The survey is not so bad:
    https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/ai

    So they have it right in front of their
    nose that they should shut down

    their grammar nazi nonsense and find
    new ways, alternative ways to harness

    and curate knowlegde?

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    I personally like that ChatGPT tolerates all my
    sloppiness, since I am always in a hurry, don't
    have time for some bullshit.

    And I pay the bill by myself, if ChatGPT doesn't
    understand me. I don't need some moderator to
    force some ideal into my throat, anyway

    most of the time ChatGPT understands me
    nevertheless. Has probably to do how
    the artificial intelligenc of ChatGPT works:

    Attention Is All You Need
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

    But stack overflow gets also drained by other
    developments like for example:

    - Thousends of tutorial web sites:
      There is a real cottage industry, of
      commercial web sites, that explain you
      web programming etc.. They are commercial
      since they show banner ads.

    - Thousends of tutorial videos:
      There is a similar cottage industry
      for videos. Also commercial because
      the show ads. Even google search
      doesn't show stack overflow as first
      result anymore.

    - Declining Business Model Job Search
      With "low code", the number of programmer
      jobs as we know it will go down. A website
      specialized on job advertising will automatically
      loose revenue:

    https://stackoverflow.co/advertising/

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot.
    They adopted the academic closed world attitute,
    as can be seen here, not noticing that the John

    Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical
    computer science titanic A-class member:

    As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched:
    "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?"
    This is a low-quality question, in my view.
    https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/

    Now try the same with ChatGPT:

    Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?

    A: It sounds like your Random object might not be
    re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same
    sequence of numbers every time you run your program.
    By default, Random is seeded with the current time in
      milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in
    quick succession, it might receive the same seed and
    generate the same numbers.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone:

    (Bit rot, because they did everything in a
    facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent
    you from deleting you own out dated stuff)

    CoincidenceIDontThinkSo
    https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE

    The Fall of Stack Overflow
    https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

    The downfall is related to the appearance of
    ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false
    and others who spammed stackoverflow for years

    with their infinite dif/2 nonsense.

    Bye


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  • From Mild Shock@21:1/5 to Mild Shock on Fri Nov 15 18:00:58 2024
    Or just give up Q&A sites all together. They
    live in a bubble that they sit on a treasure.

    Any clue why? Simply because text will pretty soon
    not be mandatory anymore for training of Chat bots:

    Early 2000s: Automatic transcription services were
    rudimentary, relying on basic speech recognition
    software with limited accuracy.

    2010s: The technology began to improve significantly
    with the development of deep learning and neural
    networks. Platforms like YouTube introduced automatic
    captions in 2006, but they were often unreliable
    and required manual corrections.

    2016–2018: Major tech companies, including Google and
    Microsoft, launched more advanced speech-to-text
    services. These platforms utilized machine learning
    algorithms and large datasets to provide more
    accurate transcriptions.

    2020–2023: With advancements in AI and natural language
    processing (NLP), transcription services became much
    more accurate and widely available. Companies like Rev,
    Otter.ai, and others began offering services with high
    accuracy and specialized features (such as speaker
    identification, real-time transcription, and more).

    But ChatGPT isn't there yet?

    Although ChatGPT itself is not directly trained
    on video data, multimodal models (such as GPT-4's
    ability to process images) are paving the way for
    broader applications of video-based learning in AI.

    So the cottage industry of training videos
    will be the next target of knowledge harvesting?
    Directly incorporating your professors lectures?

    LoL

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Also Stack Overflow is very bad in reading
    the signs of the times:

    Generative AI is now integral to the
    technologist workflow, yet many developers
    are still skeptical. According to our 2024
    #Developer Survey, 79% of respondents cited
    misinformation as their primary ethical
    concern regarding AI.
    https://x.com/stackoverflow/

    The survey is not so bad:
    https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/ai

    So they have it right in front of their
    nose that they should shut down

    their grammar nazi nonsense and find
    new ways, alternative ways to harness

    and curate knowlegde?

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    I personally like that ChatGPT tolerates all my
    sloppiness, since I am always in a hurry, don't
    have time for some bullshit.

    And I pay the bill by myself, if ChatGPT doesn't
    understand me. I don't need some moderator to
    force some ideal into my throat, anyway

    most of the time ChatGPT understands me
    nevertheless. Has probably to do how
    the artificial intelligenc of ChatGPT works:

    Attention Is All You Need
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762

    But stack overflow gets also drained by other
    developments like for example:

    - Thousends of tutorial web sites:
       There is a real cottage industry, of
       commercial web sites, that explain you
       web programming etc.. They are commercial
       since they show banner ads.

    - Thousends of tutorial videos:
       There is a similar cottage industry
       for videos. Also commercial because
       the show ads. Even google search
       doesn't show stack overflow as first
       result anymore.

    - Declining Business Model Job Search
       With "low code", the number of programmer
       jobs as we know it will go down. A website
       specialized on job advertising will automatically
       loose revenue:

    https://stackoverflow.co/advertising/

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    Yes exactly, they shoot themselves into the foot.
    They adopted the academic closed world attitute,
    as can be seen here, not noticing that the John

    Doe programmers are not necessarily a theoretical
    computer science titanic A-class member:

    As an example, consider this question – invented, but not far-fetched: >>> "Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?"
    This is a low-quality question, in my view.
    https://codeblog.jonskeet.uk/2018/03/17/stack-overflow-culture/

    Now try the same with ChatGPT:

    Q: Random keeps giving me the same numbers. Is it broken?

    A: It sounds like your Random object might not be
    re-seeded, which could cause it to generate the same
    sequence of numbers every time you run your program.
    By default, Random is seeded with the current time in
      milliseconds, but if you create it multiple times in
    quick succession, it might receive the same seed and
    generate the same numbers.

    Bye

    Mild Shock schrieb:
    Hi,

    The cest pool of bit rot is finally gone:

    (Bit rot, because they did everything in a
    facist way ignoring your copyright to prevent
    you from deleting you own out dated stuff)

    CoincidenceIDontThinkSo
    https://9gag.com/gag/abAG4oE

    The Fall of Stack Overflow
    https://observablehq.com/@ayhanfuat/the-fall-of-stack-overflow

    The downfall is related to the appearance of
    ChatGPT. I feel pitty for Ulrich Neumerkel false
    and others who spammed stackoverflow for years

    with their infinite dif/2 nonsense.

    Bye



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