Hi,
The biggest morons on this planet are SO mods.
Especially Jean-François Fabre and Karl Knechtel
seem to have snail brains.
I explained in the past that Jekejeke Prolog
is phased out, they didn't understand it, and
judged my post deletion as vandalism and
rolled back the edits:
Post Undeleted by Jean-François Fabre
occurred Oct 30, 2021 at 20:01
https://stackoverflow.com/posts/12297451/revisions
I recently made a new attempt to explain
the idea of throw away prototype, which was
a gentel probing of their mindeset. Again
SO failed the test:
Making a question or answer for any other reason is harmful
to the goal of the site, because it clutters up search results.
https://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/432277/17524790
At least they noticed something is wrong like
"cluttered" search results. But the issue is even
not really throw away prototyping. Its just
changing technological circumstances with web 2.0/3.0
and stuff, that Java applets don't exist anymore and
many more factors. Maybe the SO mods believe in
a static world, but the world is not static, its
constantly changing, and a little agility is demanded.
What a bunch of complete morons.
Bye
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
with applets becoming completely unable to be run
by 2015–2017. Java applets were deprecated by
Java 9 in 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_applet
The above is also a reason why I had to give
up formerly Jekejeke Prolog which was based on Java.
But I didn't give it up immediately in 2017,
there was like a grace period until 2021, where
I also did experiments with CheerpJ. Somehow
the Corona Pandemic gave me time to rethink
applets and invent the idea of Dogelog Player.
Dogelog Player wasn't realized for Python,
its very first implementation was JavaScript only.
The other platform followed out of curiosity
and since the Dogelog Player architecture allows
easily adding backends, without changing much of
the libraries. That async/await will be important,
I saw already when using CheerpJ. But CheerpJ doesn't
offer the small footprint, that Dogelog Player Novacore
now offers. Even if I would reduce formerly Jekejeke
Prolog, I would be still bugged by the CheerpJ load.
Novacore on the other hand is a ISO core subset,
that is optimized to be small.
Bye
P.S.: But please don't tell the morons from ISPsystem
who are now paying for jekejeke.ch domain, some
hosting and CDN, that applets don't work anymore.
They should find out by themselves.
Mild Shock schrieb:
Hi,
Since it does not have a module system, it is
not meant for large scale development. Its more
meant to create Prolog applets. This is why
it is name is Dogelog "Player", its like a Video Player,
only it plays Prolog applets. Maybe will bring
something more large scale to the web, like for
example Service Workers, where you could have
larger things than only Prolog applets to the
client side. But this has not yet been done...
Bye
P.S.: The architecture of Ciao Prolog Playground
with its Worker is more something beyond Prolog applets.
Dogelog "Player" doesn't feature such an architecture currently.
Julio Di Egidio schrieb:
On 24/11/2024 00:43, Mild Shock wrote:
What you don't find in GNU Prolog is library(misc/spin),
or open/3 that can work with http: or https: . I even
don't know whether GNU is still a good license for
GNU Prolog is full of bugs and it is a dead project by now: what's
more, it is not the clean and mean base I would hope to fork from.
Dogelog looks much better in that and pretty much every technical
sense: alas, it is not a viable licensing or even commercial scheme
for me as it is (it's a matter of support to begin with).
Indeed, consider that, as far as I am concerned, choosing a Prolog
engine is a commitment and an investment for the next 10 years
minimum: I develop libraries and tools, not just occasional apps.
Julio
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