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  • Thunderbird adopts Eudora feature

    From David Morrison@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 24 11:13:32 2016
    I see the latest update for Thunderbird has added a Correspondents
    column to replace To and From. They include a small arrow at the start
    of the line to indicate whether the message is incoming or outgoing. One feature of Eudora that I used extensively was to have incoming and
    outgoing messages to/from a particular person all in the same folder,
    ie, having all related messages int eh same folder.

    With this, I feel that at last I can move away from Eudora which has
    become increasingly difficult to use in the last year or so. Some mail
    clients do not recognise Eudora messages and refuse to accept them.
    Others just display them appallingly.

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  • From Patty Winter@21:1/5 to davidmor@excite.com on Tue May 24 16:33:51 2016
    In article <davidmor-49C7E1.11133224052016@news.internode.on.net>,
    David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

    With this, I feel that at last I can move away from Eudora which has
    become increasingly difficult to use in the last year or so. Some mail >clients do not recognise Eudora messages and refuse to accept them.
    Others just display them appallingly.

    David, are you saying that some of the people you exchange email with
    have reported problems either receiving or displaying your messages?
    I've had no such reports myself. Perhaps you use some formatting
    features in Eudora that I don't?


    Patty

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  • From David Morrison@21:1/5 to Patty Winter on Sat May 28 09:45:40 2016
    In article <5744826f$0$45027$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

    In article <davidmor-49C7E1.11133224052016@news.internode.on.net>,
    David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

    With this, I feel that at last I can move away from Eudora which has
    become increasingly difficult to use in the last year or so. Some mail >clients do not recognise Eudora messages and refuse to accept them.
    Others just display them appallingly.

    David, are you saying that some of the people you exchange email with
    have reported problems either receiving or displaying your messages?
    I've had no such reports myself. Perhaps you use some formatting
    features in Eudora that I don't?

    Yes, some messages just get bounced with an error message. I cannot say
    I recall if they are formatted or not, but most of my messages are plain
    text. In one case, all messages sent from Eudora to several addresses at
    a particular company just disappeared without a trace. However, the same messages sent from Apple Mail got through.

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  • From Patty Winter@21:1/5 to davidmor@excite.com on Sat May 28 17:52:00 2016
    In article <davidmor-0F8D5E.09454028052016@news.internode.on.net>,
    David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:
    In article <5744826f$0$45027$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

    David, are you saying that some of the people you exchange email with
    have reported problems either receiving or displaying your messages?

    Yes, some messages just get bounced with an error message. I cannot say
    I recall if they are formatted or not, but most of my messages are plain >text. In one case, all messages sent from Eudora to several addresses at
    a particular company just disappeared without a trace. However, the same >messages sent from Apple Mail got through.

    Wow, that's not good. No wonder you're looking for a replacement.

    I'll probably just switch to Apple Mail when I eventually have to
    move beyond Snow Leopard, unless Thunderbird or some other program
    looks better to me at that point.


    Patty

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  • From David Morrison@21:1/5 to Patty Winter on Mon May 30 12:58:46 2016
    In article <5749dac0$0$44942$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

    I'll probably just switch to Apple Mail when I eventually have to
    move beyond Snow Leopard, unless Thunderbird or some other program
    looks better to me at that point.

    I have been using Apple Mail as well, and have had a few problems. What
    really annoyed me was the periodic disappearance of all new mails. Mail
    would beep when new messages arrived, but they would not show up in the
    Inbox. The only solution I could get to work was to delete the account
    then recreate it. Fortunately, these were IMAP accounts so all the
    messages were still on the server, although I did still have to
    redownload several gigabytes of them. :-(

    There were other annoyances too, but this was the worst.

    All this is using the Mountain Lion version of Mail. Newer versions seem
    to have even more obnoxious problems.

    BTW, if you do decide to upgrade, make sure you import your Eudora mail
    into Mail or Thunderbird before you upgrade. Later versions do not
    always know about Eudora format. Certainly, this is the case for
    Thunderbird and you have to look for an older version first to do the
    import, then upgrade to a newer version. The older version does not run
    on the latest versions of OS X.

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  • From Patty Winter@21:1/5 to davidmor@excite.com on Mon May 30 15:28:17 2016
    In article <davidmor-B21340.12584630052016@news.internode.on.net>,
    David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

    BTW, if you do decide to upgrade, make sure you import your Eudora mail
    into Mail or Thunderbird before you upgrade.

    I actually used that Eudora converter program and brought all my mail
    into Apple Mail last year. The converted file is hopelessly out of date
    now, of course, but at least I know that the converter works and I can
    do it again at some point when I finally have to let go of Eudora.


    Patty

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  • From Andreas Rutishauser@21:1/5 to Patty Winter on Tue May 31 06:47:09 2016
    Salut Patty

    In article <574c5c11$0$45006$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

    In article <davidmor-B21340.12584630052016@news.internode.on.net>,
    David Morrison <davidmor@excite.com> wrote:

    BTW, if you do decide to upgrade, make sure you import your Eudora mail >into Mail or Thunderbird before you upgrade.

    I actually used that Eudora converter program and brought all my mail
    into Apple Mail last year. The converted file is hopelessly out of date
    now, of course, but at least I know that the converter works and I can
    do it again at some point when I finally have to let go of Eudora.

    do you mean Eudoa Mailbox Cleaner?
    Be aware that it does not run on Lion or higher...

    <http://www.andreasamann.com/MacOSX/Eudora_Mailbox_Cleaner>

    Cheers
    Andreas

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    EDV-Dienstleistungen, Hard- und Software, Internet und Netzwerk
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    <mailto:andreas@MacAndreas.ch>, Fon: 044 / 721 36 47

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  • From Patty Winter@21:1/5 to andreas@macandreas.ch on Tue May 31 15:41:15 2016
    In article <andreas-240B22.06470931052016@news.individual.de>,
    Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote:

    In article <574c5c11$0$45006$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:

    I actually used that Eudora converter program and brought all my mail
    into Apple Mail last year. The converted file is hopelessly out of date
    now, of course, but at least I know that the converter works and I can
    do it again at some point when I finally have to let go of Eudora.

    do you mean Eudoa Mailbox Cleaner?
    Be aware that it does not run on Lion or higher...

    Neither does Eudora, so that isn't a problem. :-)


    Patty

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  • From David Morrison@21:1/5 to Patty Winter on Fri Jun 3 14:26:50 2016
    In article <574db09b$0$44989$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
    Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote:
    Be aware that it does not run on Lion or higher...

    Neither does Eudora, so that isn't a problem. :-)

    ... until the Snow Leopard machine you are using dies and you have to
    get a new one that will not run Snow Leopard and will not be able to run
    Eudora Mail Cleaner......

    I was advising a fellow once who was responsible for the computers at a
    small newspaper publisher. They were all 10 year old Macs running very
    old software, and he boss did not see any reason to update the software
    or the hardware.

    The problem would arise when one of the machines died, and they would
    have to chase after another 10 year old Mac to replace it. And working
    10 year old Macs are not that common, and in a few years, working 15
    year old Macs would be very scarce.

    The alternative would be to buy a new one, but then you are stuck with replacing all the machines as new software is unlikely to run on very
    old machines. So perhaps new software would be required, as well as
    conversion of all the old data files. All this while the newspaper is
    waiting to be printed from the dead machine.

    tbh Patty, even though I run Eudora in a virtual Snow Leopard machine, I
    can see the time is going to come when this just becomes too hard and I
    am going to have to move. So I might as well do it now.

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