One of the things I really dislike about recent Microsoft operating
systems - ever since Windows 8 - is that updates have become
mandatory. Oh sure, you can put them off for a week or four, but in
the end they're going to be applied.* It's a problem because Microsoft
has repeatedly shown that their updates can be very problematic.
Case in point: a recent update to Windows 11, which has caused
numerous problems. Most reported was how it - seeing an installed
printer - detected it as an HP printer and installed an "HP Smart App"
for it... even if the printer was an Epson or Brother or whatever.**
Oops. More concernedly, a number of people have reported slow-downs
following the update (mostly AMD Ryzen owners, or people with 13th >generation+ Intel CPUs).**
And then, there's always the fun of uninstalling the cruft Microsoft
insists on reinstalling on your PC, and re-engaging all the privacy
settings.
I escaped the printer issue (my Brother remains a Brother, as far as
Windows is concerned) but the CPU hit? Yeah, I saw that; I had a 10% >performance drop... at least according to benchmarks. It wasn't
something I actually noticed in actual usage. The fix (see below)
cured the issue, but still... Microsoft ought to be embarrassed.
Microsoft these days is more interested in pushing its services than
actually creating a product people want. Windows 11 remains a
shitshow: buggy, unpolished and generally a unsatisfying experience to
use. And now even its updates - the thing intended to make it better -
are problematic.
Some days it makes me wonder why we ever left DOS...
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
One of the things I really dislike about recent Microsoft operating
systems - ever since Windows 8 - is that updates have become
mandatory. Oh sure, you can put them off for a week or four, but in
the end they're going to be applied.* It's a problem because Microsoft
has repeatedly shown that their updates can be very problematic.
No Windows update is mandatory if you have a 3rd party firewall.
You might not be able to lock windows in with the windows standard
firewall, but you sure as hell can with 3rd party, also stop all ads and random windows installed "hey we'd like to sell you this so we installed
it for you to try" apps.
It is all or nothing though, you can't just stop some bad updates, you
block em all or allow them all, but since MS has a history (10 years or
so now) of putting out garbage updates, then rolling them back after a
bit, you can control _when_ they'll be installed to avoid the system
breaking ones.
Case in point: a recent update to Windows 11, which has caused
numerous problems. Most reported was how it - seeing an installed
printer - detected it as an HP printer and installed an "HP Smart App"
for it... even if the printer was an Epson or Brother or whatever.**
Oops. More concernedly, a number of people have reported slow-downs
following the update (mostly AMD Ryzen owners, or people with 13th
generation+ Intel CPUs).**
And then, there's always the fun of uninstalling the cruft Microsoft
insists on reinstalling on your PC, and re-engaging all the privacy
settings.
I escaped the printer issue (my Brother remains a Brother, as far as
Windows is concerned) but the CPU hit? Yeah, I saw that; I had a 10%
performance drop... at least according to benchmarks. It wasn't
something I actually noticed in actual usage. The fix (see below)
cured the issue, but still... Microsoft ought to be embarrassed.
Microsoft these days is more interested in pushing its services than
actually creating a product people want. Windows 11 remains a
shitshow: buggy, unpolished and generally a unsatisfying experience to
use. And now even its updates - the thing intended to make it better -
are problematic.
You forgot the bit where MS moved all the standard functions that used
to be logically grouped into 17 billion various locations which make no sense, and of course the old standard "set all these file types to be
used by app x, which now have to be manually set one by one.
Someone at MS needs to be crucified then set on fire for this nonsense
as a warning to the rest.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
One of the things I really dislike about recent Microsoft operating
systems - ever since Windows 8 - is that updates have become
mandatory. Oh sure, you can put them off for a week or four, but in
the end they're going to be applied.* It's a problem because Microsoft
has repeatedly shown that their updates can be very problematic.
No Windows update is mandatory if you have a 3rd party firewall.
You might not be able to lock windows in with the windows standard
firewall, but you sure as hell can with 3rd party, also stop all ads and random windows installed "hey we'd like to sell you this so we installed
it for you to try" apps.
It is all or nothing though, you can't just stop some bad updates, you
block em all or allow them all, but since MS has a history (10 years or
so now) of putting out garbage updates, then rolling them back after a
bit, you can control _when_ they'll be installed to avoid the system
breaking ones.
Case in point: a recent update to Windows 11, which has caused
numerous problems. Most reported was how it - seeing an installed
printer - detected it as an HP printer and installed an "HP Smart App"
for it... even if the printer was an Epson or Brother or whatever.**
Oops. More concernedly, a number of people have reported slow-downs
following the update (mostly AMD Ryzen owners, or people with 13th
generation+ Intel CPUs).**
And then, there's always the fun of uninstalling the cruft Microsoft
insists on reinstalling on your PC, and re-engaging all the privacy
settings.
I escaped the printer issue (my Brother remains a Brother, as far as
Windows is concerned) but the CPU hit? Yeah, I saw that; I had a 10%
performance drop... at least according to benchmarks. It wasn't
something I actually noticed in actual usage. The fix (see below)
cured the issue, but still... Microsoft ought to be embarrassed.
Microsoft these days is more interested in pushing its services than
actually creating a product people want. Windows 11 remains a
shitshow: buggy, unpolished and generally a unsatisfying experience to
use. And now even its updates - the thing intended to make it better -
are problematic.
You forgot the bit where MS moved all the standard functions that used
to be logically grouped into 17 billion various locations which make no sense, and of course the old standard "set all these file types to be
used by app x, which now have to be manually set one by one.
Someone at MS needs to be crucified then set on fire for this nonsense
as a warning to the rest.
I can't wait for games to arbitrarily require a TPM module.Some days it makes me wonder why we ever left DOS...
Cause they made us when they made Diablo a win95 exclusive.
Windows 11 remains a
shitshow: buggy, unpolished and generally a unsatisfying experience to
use. And now even its updates - the thing intended to make it better -
are problematic.
On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 19:15:52 -0600, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net>
wrote:
On 12/6/23 18:49, Xocyll wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:
One of the things I really dislike about recent Microsoft operating
systems - ever since Windows 8 - is that updates have become
mandatory. Oh sure, you can put them off for a week or four, but in
the end they're going to be applied.* It's a problem because Microsoft >>>> has repeatedly shown that their updates can be very problematic.
No Windows update is mandatory if you have a 3rd party firewall.
You might not be able to lock windows in with the windows standard
firewall, but you sure as hell can with 3rd party, also stop all ads and >>> random windows installed "hey we'd like to sell you this so we installed >>> it for you to try" apps.
It is all or nothing though, you can't just stop some bad updates, you
block em all or allow them all, but since MS has a history (10 years or
so now) of putting out garbage updates, then rolling them back after a
bit, you can control _when_ they'll be installed to avoid the system
breaking ones.
Man, if only we could control what happens with our device right?
Case in point: a recent update to Windows 11, which has caused
numerous problems. Most reported was how it - seeing an installed
printer - detected it as an HP printer and installed an "HP Smart App" >>>> for it... even if the printer was an Epson or Brother or whatever.**
Oops. More concernedly, a number of people have reported slow-downs
following the update (mostly AMD Ryzen owners, or people with 13th
generation+ Intel CPUs).**
And then, there's always the fun of uninstalling the cruft Microsoft
insists on reinstalling on your PC, and re-engaging all the privacy
settings.
I escaped the printer issue (my Brother remains a Brother, as far as
Windows is concerned) but the CPU hit? Yeah, I saw that; I had a 10%
performance drop... at least according to benchmarks. It wasn't
something I actually noticed in actual usage. The fix (see below)
cured the issue, but still... Microsoft ought to be embarrassed.
Microsoft these days is more interested in pushing its services than
actually creating a product people want. Windows 11 remains a
shitshow: buggy, unpolished and generally a unsatisfying experience to >>>> use. And now even its updates - the thing intended to make it better - >>>> are problematic.
You forgot the bit where MS moved all the standard functions that used
to be logically grouped into 17 billion various locations which make no
sense, and of course the old standard "set all these file types to be
used by app x, which now have to be manually set one by one.
Someone at MS needs to be crucified then set on fire for this nonsense
as a warning to the rest.
To be fair, that was reverted. The fact it even happened says a LOT, >>especially since they "conveniently" made it easy to switch BACK to edge >>with one button press.
I can't wait for games to arbitrarily require a TPM module.Some days it makes me wonder why we ever left DOS...
Cause they made us when they made Diablo a win95 exclusive.
That'll be in 2032... when Steam stops supporting anything older than
Windows 11. Since Windows 11 requires TPM*, effectively to run any
Windows software - including games - you'll need a computer with a TPM >module. Even if it's an older game.
(No, I'm not at all sore that Valve is effectively preventing me from
using my WinXP and Win7** to play games purchased through their
platform, even though those games used to run just fine on those PCs.
What gives you that idea?)
* yes, there are hacks to bypass the requirement. No, I wouldn't count
on them remaining effective (MS already disabled one of the methods,
IIRC)
** technically, not happening until Jan 1 2024 for Win7.
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