• Speaking of old games...

    From Ant@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 19 19:30:57 2024
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Apr 19 13:31:03 2024
    On 4/19/2024 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    Elite may be considered an action game, space combat after all. I have
    a copy of From Dusk 'till Dawn which was 2001, that might be my oldest I
    still have. I don't actually remember ever playing it though

    I wasn't really all that that big on action games, more RPGs, I'm not
    really sure what my first action game was. If I say one that I really
    got into, it's probably Magic Carpet or Wing Commander III. Populous
    maybe, I'm not sure that counts either? I played WCIII on a friend's
    Computer first and only got it many years later. I'm not sure when I
    actually bought it. I don't have any of those left of course. I had
    Doom of course at some point, probably years later than it came out too.
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

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  • From Ross Ridge@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Apr 19 22:22:36 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then?

    All of them. Other than throwing out some games boxes when I moved once,
    I've kept every game I've ever bought. I have lost a game or two over
    the years, but I don't think any of them are action games.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Sat Apr 20 09:24:11 2024
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 01:02:53 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

    Same, I don't think I ever threw away something I still could get some
    use out of, even if some of those discs have been collecting dust
    somewhere in the back of a cupboard for nearly 30 years.

    Same here. I don't throw away game boxes.

    To answer Ant's question.. most of my collection is made up of
    adventure games, RPGs and strategy games... but I do own a few action
    games.

    My oldest action game on the PC is a game called Aaargh!. Yes that is
    the name of the game. I can't find a copyright date anywhere on the
    box, manual or disks but I just checked with google and the game was
    released on various platforms in 1987, 1988 and 1989. It is, I
    believe, a Rampage clone. I own action games older then this but I
    would have to go through my C-64 collection to find the oldest.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sat Apr 20 11:17:42 2024
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
    the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
    one of the first.

    This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
    Quest V is up there for me as well.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sat Apr 20 22:08:25 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
    the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
    one of the first.

    This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
    Quest V is up there for me as well.

    Those aren't action games. /s
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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Apr 20 17:58:59 2024
    Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/19/2024 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    Elite may be considered an action game, space combat after all.  I have
    a copy of From Dusk 'till Dawn which was 2001, that might be my oldest I still have.  I don't actually remember ever playing it though

    I wasn't really all that that big on action games, more RPGs, I'm not
    really sure what my first action game was.  If I say one that I really
    got into, it's probably Magic Carpet or Wing Commander III.  Populous
    maybe, I'm not sure that counts either?  I played WCIII on a friend's Computer first and only got it many years later.  I'm not sure when I actually bought it.  I don't have any of those left of course.  I had
    Doom of course at some point, probably years later than it came out too.
     I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    That Intellivision AD&D game was good. That's why I think they will
    have something powerful in the VR version.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Apr 20 22:07:07 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sun Apr 21 14:06:05 2024
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:41:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
    one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
    dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
    disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
    to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
    compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
    forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
    the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

    Well I am glad you can remember Rebel Assault because I can't. I own
    it but I have no memories of it at all.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Apr 21 14:03:26 2024
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Those aren't action games. /s

    Ok fine I just checked. I thought it was going to be Magic Carpet and
    Dark Forces which are Copyright 1994 each. But no, I can beat those by
    just a bit.

    I have something called Star Wars Rebel Assault which has a copyright
    date of 1993. That is my oldest action game on CD-ROM.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Sun Apr 21 19:45:42 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Apr 21 19:48:09 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
    the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
    one of the first.

    This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
    Quest V is up there for me as well.

    Those aren't action games. /s


    Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)

    The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
    not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
    installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
    most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
    detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
    most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.

    Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?

    Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
    it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
    also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
    on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.

    "Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
    one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
    dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
    disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
    to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
    compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
    forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
    the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

    Yeah, RA was pretty for multimedia showoff but linear and no
    replayability. I remember buying it from my local CompUSA store. I
    regretted too.

    Commander Keen, Prince of Persia, etc. were action types. ;)
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sun Apr 21 19:49:28 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:41:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    "Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
    one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware >dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
    disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
    to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with >compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
    forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
    the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

    Well I am glad you can remember Rebel Assault because I can't. I own
    it but I have no memories of it at all.

    I only remember pretty visuals and linear difficult short gameplay.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Apr 21 13:47:14 2024
    On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    "Workstations"

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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Apr 21 17:47:40 2024
    Ant wrote:
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    Space Empires IV Deluxe

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  • From LucLan@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Apr 22 06:11:14 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    I still have Pentium 2 @ 350 MHz, with Savage3D 8 MB Video card, on which
    I play Duke3D, and other games.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Mon Apr 22 12:20:02 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 07:38 this Monday (GMT):
    On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
       I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I >>>>>> might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    "Workstations"


    or maybe "Playstations"

    I don't see any problem with that


    Nah, an X86box would be a better name :)
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Apr 22 07:48:04 2024
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Mon Apr 22 16:43:43 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
      I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    But can you do your work on consoles? :P
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 22 14:55:55 2024
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    They're probably a little on the younger side, so when they came into
    computers there was only the IBM compatibles and the Macs left.
    Sinclair something, Commodore Pet, Vic20, C64, TRS-80 line, Apple 2g and others, likely loads I am forgetting.

    They were all personal computers, but many of them are better left on
    the garbage heap of history.

    Or that awful networked PC for use in schools, the Unisys Icon.

    Xocyll

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Mon Apr 22 19:10:03 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
      I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR


    To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Mon Apr 22 14:48:02 2024
    On 4/22/2024 11:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
       I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I >>>>>> might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    But can you do your work on consoles? :P

    where there's a will there's a way...

    https://notin.tokyo/nesos/

    https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/

    https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo

    https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html


    I remember something about people using one of the PS iterations for
    running servers with Linux because the HW was cheaper at the performance
    than PC hardware. Sony of course tried to kill that off.

    I remember using GEOS on a c-64 for my mom's business for a bit, though
    a c-64 is a PC, just didn't come with an WYSIWYG os.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system)



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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Mon Apr 22 17:49:07 2024
    On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
      I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Tue Apr 23 12:07:01 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
       I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. 
    I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    "Workstations"


    or maybe "Playstations"

    I don't see any problem with that

    Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
    then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
    play stations if play stops there.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Tue Apr 23 15:17:27 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
      I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)


    And tighter control.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Apr 23 15:17:28 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.


    heh, it "bugs" you
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Tue Apr 23 18:47:27 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    heh, it "bugs" you

    Quit bugging me. ;)
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Tue Apr 23 19:10:09 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:47 this Tuesday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
    I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

    heh, it "bugs" you

    Quit bugging me. ;)


    ok :)
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Tue Apr 23 20:00:08 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 19:11 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

    On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
       I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

    (not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

    Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
    computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific. >>>>>
    "Workstations"


    or maybe "Playstations"

    I don't see any problem with that

    Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
    then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
    play stations if play stops there.

    that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
    stop play because you have to install the next one...

    at least that's how it goes for me sometimes


    Don't forget the 100GB updates.
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Wed Apr 24 09:54:46 2024
    On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
    remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
    categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

    At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead before the
    term PC started to be commonly used.

    Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based
    desktop PC and not a more generic one.

    *Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will tell you!

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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 24 05:54:10 2024
    candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
      I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)


    And tighter control.

    Not for FPS...

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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed Apr 24 05:58:40 2024
    JAB wrote:
    On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
    remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
    categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

    At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead before the
    term PC started to be commonly used.

    Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based desktop PC and not a more generic one.

    *Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will tell
    you!

    The term doesn't really concern me. I think it's falling out of favor.
    I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air about it.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Lane Larson on Wed Apr 24 07:20:38 2024
    On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:
    JAB wrote:
    On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
    Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
    remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
    categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

    At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
    home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
    before the term PC started to be commonly used.

    Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based
    desktop PC and not a more generic one.

    *Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
    tell you!

    The term doesn't really concern me.  I think it's falling out of favor.
    I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air about it.

    Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
    where their noses are. ;)

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Wed Apr 24 07:23:10 2024
    On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
    candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday
    (GMT):
    On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
    ...
       I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
    count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking
    was the
    D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

    Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

    Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
    intellivision, which was a console.


    ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

    Lobotomized personal computers with better PR.  ;)


    And tighter control.

    Not for FPS...

    some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really
    have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
    on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)

    I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Wed Apr 24 15:00:10 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    [snip]
    Don't forget the 100GB updates.

    Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
    reminding me.


    Sorry :P
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Lane Larson on Wed Apr 24 15:00:10 2024
    Lane Larson <lnlarson@stoat.inhoin.edu> wrote at 10:54 this Wednesday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT): [snip]
    Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)


    And tighter control.

    Not for FPS...


    I meant control over the OS..
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed Apr 24 15:00:11 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:23 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
    candycanearter07 wrote:
    [snip]
    And tighter control.

    Not for FPS...

    some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really
    have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
    on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)

    I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....


    Yeah.
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Kyonshi on Wed Apr 24 18:30:08 2024
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 17:35 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 4/24/2024 5:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    [snip]
    Don't forget the 100GB updates.

    Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
    reminding me.


    Sorry :P

    Which reminds me I finally should try that Mass Effect trilogy thing
    that didn't want to work on my old computer.
    The solution they had for any issue was to reinstall the whole thing.
    The whole 100gb+. Sheer madness.


    /ouch/. I hope you have good wifi.
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  • From shawn@21:1/5 to Ant on Fri Apr 26 01:54:15 2024
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to shawn on Fri Apr 26 21:27:11 2024
    shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    ... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
    then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
    in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
    PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

    I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.

    I played its demo. It was OK.
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