• Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"

    From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Apr 25 12:11:16 2024
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:00:29 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
    know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
    links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game >library.

    This week's clutter includes:

    * Industria
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/industria
    Although the title might bring to mind a factory-
    automation management sim game, "Industria" is in
    fact a first-person shooter set in a sci-fi/alt-
    universe cold-war setting where you rampage through
    East Berlin shooting robots. It's a pretty and
    atmospheric corridor shooter; not very long and it
    probably could stand a bit more polish (balancing and
    bugs are both frequent complaints by reviewers),
    but overall it's a solid B-list title. I think I'll
    give it a try.

    Agreed. Yoink!

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Apr 25 16:40:08 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 16:00 this Thursday (GMT):

    Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
    know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
    links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game library.

    This week's clutter includes:

    * Industria
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/industria
    Although the title might bring to mind a factory-
    automation management sim game, "Industria" is in
    fact a first-person shooter set in a sci-fi/alt-
    universe cold-war setting where you rampage through
    East Berlin shooting robots. It's a pretty and
    atmospheric corridor shooter; not very long and it
    probably could stand a bit more polish (balancing and
    bugs are both frequent complaints by reviewers),
    but overall it's a solid B-list title. I think I'll
    give it a try.



    * Lisa: The Definitive Edition https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
    A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
    "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
    RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
    I don't know anything about the game and it generally
    has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
    this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
    not only because of its old-school graphics but
    unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
    map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
    vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
    in the target demographic.


    Is your library now appropriately cluttered? You have seven days to
    add to the mess!


    Everything I have is messy.
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Fri Apr 26 14:12:22 2024
    On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 12:00:29 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Is your library now appropriately cluttered? You have seven days to
    add to the mess!

    My game libraries have been appropriately cluttered for some time now.
    Thank you for helping me to clutter them even more.

    As for these two games, The Lisa game interests me more but I
    completely agree with you about the graphics.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Apr 26 16:15:35 2024
    On 4/25/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
    know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
    links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game library.

    * Lisa: The Definitive Edition https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
    A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
    "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
    RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
    I don't know anything about the game and it generally
    has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
    this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
    not only because of its old-school graphics but
    unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
    map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
    vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
    in the target demographic.

    So I picked it up, and was going to install it and give it a try but in
    the Library it only lists

    Lisa: The Painful - Definitive Edition
    Lisa: The Joyful - Definitive Edition

    I don't see "Lisa: The first"

    When I search Lisa in the store it only shows "The Definitive Edition"
    not either of those. I'm scratching my head on what to do here.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Apr 27 12:04:17 2024
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:44:07 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Slavjank games were a lot more common in the mid 2000s and early
    2010s. Some examples include "You Are Empty", "Codename: Outbreak", >"Ubersoldier", "Creed", "Chrome" and even (arguably) "STALKER: Shadow
    of Chernobyl". I've even seen "Cyberpunk 2020" included in the
    category (mostly due to its very rough release; I think most of its
    critics would agree it doesn't deserve that anymore).

    I would throw the "Metro" games on that pile too, as well as
    "Ghostrunner."

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sat Apr 27 13:49:30 2024
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:47:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
    First" for free here: >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/

    Thank you again Spalls. It was confusing me as well.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Mike S on Sat Apr 27 21:50:01 2024
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 17:49 this Saturday (GMT):
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:47:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
    First" for free here: >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/

    Thank you again Spalls. It was confusing me as well.


    Is it any good?
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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Apr 28 08:26:56 2024
    On 4/27/2024 6:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:15:35 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 4/25/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
    know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
    links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game
    library.

    * Lisa: The Definitive Edition
    https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
    A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
    "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
    RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
    I don't know anything about the game and it generally
    has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
    this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
    not only because of its old-school graphics but
    unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
    map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
    vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
    in the target demographic.

    So I picked it up, and was going to install it and give it a try but in
    the Library it only lists

    Lisa: The Painful - Definitive Edition
    Lisa: The Joyful - Definitive Edition

    I don't see "Lisa: The first"

    When I search Lisa in the store it only shows "The Definitive Edition"
    not either of those. I'm scratching my head on what to do here.

    Apparently "Lisa: The First" is a free prologue. I based my info on
    the "Lisa:Complete Edition" found on Steam, which does include "The
    First". Apparently Epic's "definitive edition" does not. (there's no 'definitive edition' listed on Steam; I just assumed the two were the
    same. Well, you know what they say about assuming...)

    But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
    First" for free here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/


    So I decided to try Lisa: The Painful as that's the first that was free.
    It brought me through the prologue, I'm not sure if that was Lisa: the
    First or not, but it felt like I didn't need anything more anyway.

    The prologue is annoying though as it's basically an in game cutscene
    which is fairly long for what it was. I suppose it's to build into the
    main game and can be forgiven.

    *mild spoilers of the premise of the game follow*...

    The setting/text is dark and disturbing. Some sort of apocalypse (no explanation) has left the world a wasteland, and there's no women.
    Except one baby girl you find in the wasteland and raise to a child,
    then she gets kidnapped and your friends killed. She appears to still
    be a child at the time of the kidnapping. You go out to get her back.
    Constant comments from raider type enemies on what they'll do if they
    find her really turned me off.

    As to the gameplay, it's JRPG combat and some rather crap side scrolling
    when not in combat.

    I won't be continuing it. The subject matter while compelling, isn't
    something I'm interested in exploring, and the gameplay itself feels
    like it would be some shovelware in the 80's at best.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Apr 28 11:57:35 2024
    On 4/28/2024 10:07 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    (Also, as far as I know, the Ghostrunner devs are based in Denmark.
    That would make their game Eurojank - or Danejank? - and not Slavjank. Fortunately, the world is wide enough to support multiple types of
    jankitude. ;-)

    Scandajank. :) Culturally Scandinavia is noticeable different than
    Central Europe.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Sun Apr 28 15:07:09 2024
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is it any good?

    I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
    reviews are positive.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Mike S on Sun Apr 28 23:40:02 2024
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 19:07 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is it any good?

    I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
    reviews are positive.


    Well, good luck!
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Apr 30 15:20:10 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 02:02 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:07:09 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 >><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Is it any good?

    I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
    reviews are positive.

    I tried it. The short of it is, no - as much as I wished otherwise -
    it is not a very good game. The long of it is coming in two days with
    the monthly round-up (no peeking!).


    Can't wait.
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Apr 30 17:31:43 2024
    On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 13:07:46 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 12:04:17 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:44:07 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Slavjank games were a lot more common in the mid 2000s and early
    2010s. Some examples include "You Are Empty", "Codename: Outbreak", >>>"Ubersoldier", "Creed", "Chrome" and even (arguably) "STALKER: Shadow
    of Chernobyl". I've even seen "Cyberpunk 2020" included in the
    category (mostly due to its very rough release; I think most of its >>>critics would agree it doesn't deserve that anymore).

    I would throw the "Metro" games on that pile too, as well as
    "Ghostrunner."

    I personally wouldn't, but what is and isn't slavjank is open to >interpretation, depending on where you draw the line for 'jank'.
    Personally, I think that the Metro games - and the later STALKER games
    for that matter - were well-made enough that they don't deserve that >designation, but I can understand that others may disagree.

    Similarly, while I didn't /enjoy/ "Ghostrunner" I think that's more
    because it's targeted at an entirely different audience than the one I
    am in. I think it's trying to be a very specific type of game aimed at
    a very specific type of audience, and - in my opinion - it achieved
    its goals. It's a game for people who enjoy the challenges of
    speedrunning; a game for people who get off on mastering the
    mechanical and technical aspects of a perfectly timed run through a
    level. That's not me, but just because I don't enjoy it doesn't make
    the game janky. Just different.

    (Also, as far as I know, the Ghostrunner devs are based in Denmark.
    That would make their game Eurojank - or Danejank? - and not Slavjank. >Fortunately, the world is wide enough to support multiple types of
    jankitude. ;-)

    But YMMV. Jank is in the eye of the beholder. If it's jank to you, who
    am I to argue? ;-)


    Ooh. Remember "Hard Reset?"

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    Zag

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