• Re: Microsoft Gaming

    From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Fri May 10 16:49:42 2024
    On Fri, 10 May 2024 10:50:44 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:


    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and
    money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on >investment.

    Microsoft is consistently cited as one of the most financially healthy
    tech companies in existence. I think you're forgetting that gaming is
    a largely inconsequential side hustle for Microsoft?

    It is not uncommon for companies of that size to incur strategic
    losses in specific divisions as part of a bigger plan (one they don't necessarily outwardly reveal).

    I personally think MS invests in gaming to diminish the threat
    surface. For example if they let Sony go uncontested in consoles, the
    PS could potentially morph into some sort of consumer personal
    computer that eats into marketshare for Windows in the consumer space.

    Life doesn't revolve solely around gaming.. I get that it's the
    subject of this newsgroup, but you're making some dogmatic statements
    that are failing to take the bigger picture into consideration.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue May 14 10:31:23 2024
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and
    money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on investment.

    Is it really that surprising as consumers are a rather fickle bunch when
    it comes to what they will or won't buy. Money obviously helps but it's
    only one part of the equation. Indeed one of the faults pointed out with capitalism is that it assumes people are far more rationale in their
    choices than they actually are.

    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea of
    ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out like
    that.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue May 14 07:38:56 2024
    On 5/14/2024 2:31 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and
    money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on
    investment.

    Is it really that surprising as consumers are a rather fickle bunch when
    it comes to what they will or won't buy. Money obviously helps but it's
    only one part of the equation. Indeed one of the faults pointed out with capitalism is that it assumes people are far more rationale in their
    choices than they actually are.

    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea of
    ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out like
    that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue May 14 15:30:10 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 14 May 2024 10:31:23 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea of >>ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out like >>that.

    Oh, the promise of the Internet in the early 90s. How far we've
    fallen.

    It would be easy to blame AOL for allowing hoi polloi into our
    precious garden of ideas ;-), but I think there's more to blame to be
    laid on Canter and Siegel, who led the charge in bringing
    commercialism and advertising onto the 'net.

    Once that became normalized, the 'net was doomed.


    Adblock at least helps..
    --
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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Tue May 14 17:28:48 2024
    On 14/05/2024 15:38, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/14/2024 2:31 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and
    money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on
    investment.

    Is it really that surprising as consumers are a rather fickle bunch
    when it comes to what they will or won't buy. Money obviously helps
    but it's only one part of the equation. Indeed one of the faults
    pointed out with capitalism is that it assumes people are far more
    rationale in their choices than they actually are.

    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea
    of ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out
    like that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.


    thin = think, fall = full!

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Tue May 14 17:20:13 2024
    On 14/05/2024 15:38, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/14/2024 2:31 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and
    money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on
    investment.

    Is it really that surprising as consumers are a rather fickle bunch
    when it comes to what they will or won't buy. Money obviously helps
    but it's only one part of the equation. Indeed one of the faults
    pointed out with capitalism is that it assumes people are far more
    rationale in their choices than they actually are.

    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea
    of ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out
    like that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.


    I thin it more as silos fall of brown stuff that once you get into one
    you sink deeper and deeper!

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 14 17:59:43 2024
    On 5/14/2024 8:30 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 14 May 2024 10:31:23 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea of
    ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out like
    that.

    Oh, the promise of the Internet in the early 90s. How far we've
    fallen.

    It would be easy to blame AOL for allowing hoi polloi into our
    precious garden of ideas ;-), but I think there's more to blame to be
    laid on Canter and Siegel, who led the charge in bringing
    commercialism and advertising onto the 'net.

    Once that became normalized, the 'net was doomed.


    Adblock at least helps..

    Not enough.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue May 14 18:01:02 2024
    On 5/14/2024 9:28 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 14/05/2024 15:38, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 5/14/2024 2:31 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    It's not so surprising that Microsoft is struggling. They've ALWAYS
    been struggling in to gain a foothold in the gaming market. What is
    unusual is that they are struggling despite putting so much effort and >>>> money into the attempt. It's not like Microsoft is going to collapse
    anytime soon, of course. But most companies see a lot better return on >>>> investment.

    Is it really that surprising as consumers are a rather fickle bunch
    when it comes to what they will or won't buy. Money obviously helps
    but it's only one part of the equation. Indeed one of the faults
    pointed out with capitalism is that it assumes people are far more
    rationale in their choices than they actually are.

    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea
    of ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out
    like that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.


    thin = think, fall = full!

    That's it, just keep thrashing around so you sink faster. :P

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed May 15 09:42:24 2024
    On 15/05/2024 02:01, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea
    of ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out
    like that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.


    thin = think, fall = full!

    That's it, just keep thrashing around so you sink faster.  :P

    Content algorithms don't help with the focus on here's more content that re-enforces what you already believe. There's a few people down our
    local pub who will basically believe anything the some random person
    posted on Facebook if it supports their own narrative.

    Winter flu kills more people than COVID; how many people, on average,
    does winter flu kill; I don't. I mean how does someone function in real
    life with that set of reasoning skills?

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to JAB on Wed May 15 07:31:40 2024
    On 5/15/2024 1:42 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 15/05/2024 02:01, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the
    sea of ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite
    turn out like that.

    More like a toilet bowl and what floats to the top of that.


    thin = think, fall = full!

    That's it, just keep thrashing around so you sink faster.  :P

    Content algorithms don't help with the focus on here's more content that re-enforces what you already believe. There's a few people down our
    local pub who will basically believe anything the some random person
    posted on Facebook if it supports their own narrative.

    Winter flu kills more people than COVID; how many people, on average,
    does winter flu kill; I don't. I mean how does someone function in real
    life with that set of reasoning skills?

    The same way the antelope herd survives. ;)

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Wed May 15 14:50:08 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:59 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On 5/14/2024 8:30 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:21 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 14 May 2024 10:31:23 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
    On 10/05/2024 15:50, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    It's similar to the brave new world of the internet where in the sea of >>>> ideas the good ones would float to the top. Didn't quite turn out like >>>> that.

    Oh, the promise of the Internet in the early 90s. How far we've
    fallen.

    It would be easy to blame AOL for allowing hoi polloi into our
    precious garden of ideas ;-), but I think there's more to blame to be
    laid on Canter and Siegel, who led the charge in bringing
    commercialism and advertising onto the 'net.

    Once that became normalized, the 'net was doomed.


    Adblock at least helps..

    Not enough.


    At least its something..
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Wed May 15 14:09:22 2024
    On Wed, 15 May 2024 14:50:08 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    At least its something..

    Adblockers work fine on YouTube which is the only place I care about
    them working.

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