• Re: They're Making A New Star Wars Game

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Jun 17 08:21:44 2024
    On 6/15/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI

    Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
    Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
    (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
    game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
    morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.

    Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
    blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
    video game? Sure, I'll show interest.

    Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
    being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
    thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
    and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
    much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
    lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
    sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
    Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

    Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
    Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
    Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
    Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.

    And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
    I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
    But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
    Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
    /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
    the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
    enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
    experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
    you wonder why you played so long.

    So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
    Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
    way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
    who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
    still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
    video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
    of their titles.

    Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

    Did they run out of historical times to pillage? Off to pillage sci-fi
    now (yes I know it's a long time ago, but space-fantasy.)

    I think I'd rather go back to playing SW Galaxies. I hear it's less grindy/paywalled now.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Jun 18 07:07:03 2024
    On 6/17/2024 5:58 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:21:44 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    On 6/15/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
    announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI

    Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
    Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
    (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
    game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
    morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.

    Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
    blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
    video game? Sure, I'll show interest.

    Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
    being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
    thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
    and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
    much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
    lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
    sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
    Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

    Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
    Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
    Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
    vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
    Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.

    And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
    I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
    But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
    Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
    /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
    the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
    enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
    experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
    you wonder why you played so long.

    So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
    Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
    way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
    who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
    still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
    video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
    of their titles.

    Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

    Did they run out of historical times to pillage? Off to pillage sci-fi
    now (yes I know it's a long time ago, but space-fantasy.)

    I think I'd rather go back to playing SW Galaxies. I hear it's less
    grindy/paywalled now.


    I'm not sure I could go back to Galaxy. It's just too old, both
    visually and in terms of game-play. I know there are people who love
    that style -and there is something appealing about the freedom some of
    the original mechanics offered- but I was never really a fan.

    I found "Star Wars: Old Republic" more appealing, because it had a
    much stronger narrative and was bearable as a single-player
    experience.

    Or just play the old "Dark Forces" games. Or the "X-wing" franchise.
    Or the "Jedi: Survivor" series. Or even "Force Unleashed". There's no
    lack of Star Wars titles to play, and -even though many of them were
    flawed- all of them look more exciting to me than what I've seen of "Outcast".


    Doh, I was thinking of TOR, not Galaxies (not Galaxy). *Sigh* The olds
    are getting me.

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Jun 19 12:10:00 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

    Well, maybe one can play a Ubisoft game once in a decade or two? I'm not
    sure I have yet, this decade or the last... Although I think I have some freebie Assassin's Whatsit on Epic.

    I can't say I was very impressed by the SW:Outcast video. Really light
    on physics, our hero just climbs up some cable with just the power of
    her arms. That lady has a nice grip. No rocket backpack, no high tech
    winch, nothing. Can't free climb with those arms either. Sigh. Although apparently your bike comes if you call, like horses in old
    westerns. Cute.

    And a sneak mission where it's apparently OK to shoot everything in
    sight but you get a reputation loss. I'd hope for no reputation loss if
    you kill all witnesses like Hitman games but still, this is OK if not
    great.

    Anyways, it's Star Wars so a likely buy. But then I thought similarly
    about Starfield too and now it's "I'll get it in a sale" or rather "if
    it ever goes on sale".

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Wed Jun 19 08:19:42 2024
    On 6/19/2024 2:10 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

    Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

    Well, maybe one can play a Ubisoft game once in a decade or two? I'm not
    sure I have yet, this decade or the last... Although I think I have some freebie Assassin's Whatsit on Epic.

    I can't say I was very impressed by the SW:Outcast video. Really light
    on physics, our hero just climbs up some cable with just the power of
    her arms. That lady has a nice grip. No rocket backpack, no high tech
    winch, nothing. Can't free climb with those arms either. Sigh. Although apparently your bike comes if you call, like horses in old
    westerns. Cute.

    And a sneak mission where it's apparently OK to shoot everything in
    sight but you get a reputation loss. I'd hope for no reputation loss if
    you kill all witnesses like Hitman games but still, this is OK if not
    great.

    Anyways, it's Star Wars so a likely buy. But then I thought similarly
    about Starfield too and now it's "I'll get it in a sale" or rather "if
    it ever goes on sale".

    Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
    last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough". :)

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  • From Anssi Saari@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Thu Jun 20 10:37:55 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:

    Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
    last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough".
    :)

    Yes, of course. Kinda goes without saying, or so I thought.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Anssi Saari on Thu Jun 20 06:32:26 2024
    On 6/20/2024 12:37 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:

    Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
    last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough".
    :)

    Yes, of course. Kinda goes without saying, or so I thought.

    Saying what goes without saying is a big part of being a Genius Glutous Maximus. ;)

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Jun 22 06:59:35 2024
    On 15/06/2024 18:16, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Except... it's/really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
    being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
    thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
    and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
    much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
    lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
    sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
    Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

    It's one of the big problems I have with them, not only do they keep
    recycling the same IP's they also share share a similar gameplay across
    a number of those IP's.

    It kinda reminds me of MacDonalds, you know it won't be good but you do
    know what your getting. The difference is that a Big Mac doesn't cost £70.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Jun 22 06:20:06 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 05:59 this Saturday (GMT):
    On 15/06/2024 18:16, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Except... it's/really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
    being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
    thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
    and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
    much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
    lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
    sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
    Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

    It's one of the big problems I have with them, not only do they keep recycling the same IP's they also share share a similar gameplay across
    a number of those IP's.

    Yeah..

    It kinda reminds me of MacDonalds, you know it won't be good but you do
    know what your getting. The difference is that a Big Mac doesn't cost £70.


    ...yet
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