• Elden Ring DLC finished.

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 8 15:39:02 2024
    I finished the Elden Ring DLC. 32 tries total on the end boss. It
    took some thinking about how to beat it and getting a couple ideas and a
    couple pieces of advice. Quickstep blood antspur being the main essence
    for those of you that know anything about the game. I didn't have to
    adjust my build, just put blood quickstep on the antspur, and I didn't
    have to find the remaing 9 DLC difficulty easing items. Overall still
    easier than the optional chalice bosses in Bloodborne and by far easier
    than DS3's DLC.

    My review of the whole thing pretty much stands, too long, takes too
    long to make build/new character to try different things out. I'd like
    to try some different builds I didn't but I don't have the patience to
    go through the who giant open world again, maybe I never will.

    I might consider going back to my newbie helper for a bit more co-op,
    but I'm done for now.

    Definately don't recommend it if you thought the main game was too long.
    If you didn't then you'll probably enjoy it.

    I still don't really recommend the base game if you don't like long
    'open' worlds. It's a good way to dip your feet in souls even if you
    don't complete it. The beginning of the game is my favorite part up to
    about Radahn, and even doing that would be worth the money for the base
    game.

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  • From DotNettie@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Fri Aug 9 06:40:20 2024
    On 8/8/2024 6:39 PM, Justisaur wrote:
    I finished the Elden Ring DLC.  32 tries total on the end boss.   It
    took some thinking about how to beat it and getting a couple ideas and a couple pieces of advice.  Quickstep blood antspur being the main essence
    for those of you that know anything about the game.  I didn't have to
    adjust my build, just put blood quickstep on the antspur, and I didn't
    have to find the remaing 9 DLC difficulty easing items.  Overall still easier than the optional chalice bosses in Bloodborne and by far easier
    than DS3's DLC.

    My review of the whole thing pretty much stands, too long, takes too
    long to make build/new character to try different things out.  I'd like
    to try some different builds I didn't but I don't have the patience to
    go through the who giant open world again, maybe I never will.

    I might consider going back to my newbie helper for a bit more co-op,
    but I'm done for now.

    Definately don't recommend it if you thought the main game was too long.
     If you didn't then you'll probably enjoy it.

    I still don't really recommend the base game if you don't like long
    'open' worlds.  It's a good way to dip your feet in souls even if you
    don't complete it.  The beginning of the game is my favorite part up to about Radahn, and even doing that would be worth the money for the base
    game.

    Did you play in single player?

    D.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Aug 10 09:51:22 2024
    On 09/08/2024 19:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Honestly, it's the open-worldness of "Elden Rings" that has kept me
    from playing it more than anything. I wasn't a big fan of the Dark
    Souls games to start with, but I could at least admire the design even
    if I didn't actually enjoy the gameplay. But that admiration could
    only carry me so far; an average playthrough of those games is, what,
    thirty hours or so?* That's about how long I could tolerate the games
    before I had to move on to something else.

    The only games I can think of that I've played more than thirty hours of
    are FO:3/NV and Skyrim. You might see a pattern there in that they all
    have content that is bolstered by lots of different
    stories/environments/things to do, in the game that keep my interest up.
    ER doesn't sound like the type of gameplay I like at all but putting
    that aside even if I did I think I'd be unlikely to go much past twenty
    five hours or so as it sounds that the gameplay will just get to
    repetitive for me at that point.

    Overall even for games that I'd say I really liked there's quite a few
    that I only finished because I wanted to see the end even though my
    interest was really waning.

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to JAB on Sun Aug 11 08:49:13 2024
    On 8/10/2024 1:51 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 09/08/2024 19:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Honestly, it's the open-worldness of "Elden Rings" that has kept me
    from playing it more than anything. I wasn't a big fan of the Dark
    Souls games to start with, but I could at least admire the design even
    if I didn't actually enjoy the gameplay. But that admiration could
    only carry me so far; an average playthrough of those games is, what,
    thirty hours or so?* That's about how long I could tolerate the games
    before I had to move on to something else.

    The only games I can think of that I've played more than thirty hours of
    are FO:3/NV and Skyrim. You might see a pattern there in that they all
    have content that is bolstered by lots of different stories/environments/things to do, in the game that keep my interest up.
    ER doesn't sound like the type of gameplay I like at all but putting
    that aside even if I did I think I'd be unlikely to go much past twenty
    five hours or so as it sounds that the gameplay will just get to
    repetitive for me at that point.

    Overall even for games that I'd say I really liked there's quite a few
    that I only finished because I wanted to see the end even though my
    interest was really waning.

    I think I might just be done with souls games. I played a little bit
    with my newb helper character and that wasn't doing it for me. I
    started Demon Souls (game by Fromsoft before Dark Souls) it's fine. I'm
    just not really interested in that gameplay any more. I think perhaps
    Elden Ring was so long and repetitive that I don't want to play like
    that any more.

    I'm really enjoying EDF with my daughter when she wants to play it, but
    need to find something else to play when she doesn't.

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  • From rms@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 11 16:00:59 2024
    The only games I can think of that I've played more than thirty hours of
    are FO:3/NV and Skyrim. You might see a pattern there in that they all
    have content that is bolstered by lots of different >stories/environments/things to do

    Witcher 3 might interest you!

    rms

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to rms on Mon Aug 12 07:58:52 2024
    On 11/08/2024 23:00, rms wrote:
    The only games I can think of that I've played more than thirty hours
    of are FO:3/NV and Skyrim. You might see a pattern there in that they
    all have content that is bolstered by lots of different stories/
    environments/things to do

      Witcher 3 might interest you!


    I picked it up a few weeks ago in a Steam sale, £3 or something like
    that as although I liked 1, 2 for whatever reason didn't grab me at all
    so 3 was a no buy. It was someone here (sorry I can't remember who) that
    said 3 goes back to a winning formula.

    I've not had much time to spend on it as I've been doing a lot more
    prep. for starting my first Call of Cthulhu campaign but so far I'm
    rather enjoying it.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Wed Aug 14 09:48:49 2024
    On 11/08/2024 16:49, Justisaur wrote:
    On 8/10/2024 1:51 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 09/08/2024 19:02, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Honestly, it's the open-worldness of "Elden Rings" that has kept me
    from playing it more than anything. I wasn't a big fan of the Dark
    Souls games to start with, but I could at least admire the design even
    if I didn't actually enjoy the gameplay. But that admiration could
    only carry me so far; an average playthrough of those games is, what,
    thirty hours or so?* That's about how long I could tolerate the games
    before I had to move on to something else.

    The only games I can think of that I've played more than thirty hours
    of are FO:3/NV and Skyrim. You might see a pattern there in that they
    all have content that is bolstered by lots of different stories/
    environments/things to do, in the game that keep my interest up. ER
    doesn't sound like the type of gameplay I like at all but putting that
    aside even if I did I think I'd be unlikely to go much past twenty
    five hours or so as it sounds that the gameplay will just get to
    repetitive for me at that point.

    Overall even for games that I'd say I really liked there's quite a few
    that I only finished because I wanted to see the end even though my
    interest was really waning.

    I think I might just be done with souls games. I played a little bit
    with my newb helper character and that wasn't doing it for me.  I
    started Demon Souls (game by Fromsoft before Dark Souls) it's fine. I'm
    just not really interested in that gameplay any more.  I think perhaps
    Elden Ring was so long and repetitive that I don't want to play like
    that any more.

    I'm really enjoying EDF with my daughter when she wants to play it, but
    need to find something else to play when she doesn't.


    Yep, play a type of game too much and at some point you need a break
    from it. Glad you've found another game* that you're enjoying but I've
    never been into computer games that you play with other people. Not that
    I don't enjoy it when I do it but instead it doesn't sit well with my
    gaming is something I do when I fancy it and not something that is
    scheduled**.

    *I had to look up what EDF was as to me it's the company that supplies
    our gas and electricity!

    **Much like some of the players I had when I started GM'ing Call of
    Cthulhu. Out of the four players, three of them seem to think it was
    perfectly fine just to turn up if they had nothing better to do and to
    make it worse no fore warning they weren't going to play and no apology afterwards to me or others. I did make it clear that I understand that sometimes real life gets in the way but you do need to make a commitment
    to actually playing. As that fell on deaf ears I just said I'm not
    GM'ing then. Fortunately within a couple of weeks I had found another
    player and I'm have a blast with just having two PC's who are very
    invested in the game.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Aug 15 08:13:12 2024
    On 14/08/2024 14:59, Justisaur wrote:
    On 8/14/2024 1:48 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 11/08/2024 16:49, Justisaur wrote:

    I'm really enjoying EDF with my daughter when she wants to play it,
    but need to find something else to play when she doesn't.


    Yep, play a type of game too much and at some point you need a break
    from it. Glad you've found another game* that you're enjoying but I've
    never been into computer games that you play with other people. Not
    that I don't enjoy it when I do it but instead it doesn't sit well
    with my gaming is something I do when I fancy it and not something
    that is scheduled**.

    Well we're both here already which makes it easier.  No need to
    schedule, just when we both feel like it.

    I've been playing it without her a bit, but it's got 4 classes which you
    can play from the start, and it helps the other classes a bit too as
    some of the pickups (weapon & armor) you get gets allocated to different classes, and you can play it solo just fine.

    I did like playing online with EDF 5 with 4 players, but I'm not feeling
    the call to play online this time.

    Myself and my better half used to play CoC RPG until they found the
    horror a bit too much so we moved to the kinda board game Sherlock
    Holmes Consulting Detective. One of the advantages was that, like you, scheduling is just do you fancy playing. It's a bit like do you want to
    watch a film tonight.

    **Much like some of the players I had when I started GM'ing Call of
    Cthulhu. Out of the four players, three of them seem to think it was
    perfectly fine just to turn up if they had nothing better to do and to
    make it worse no fore warning they weren't going to play and no
    apology afterwards to me or others. I did make it clear that I
    understand that sometimes real life gets in the way but you do need to
    make a commitment to actually playing. As that fell on deaf ears I
    just said I'm not GM'ing then. Fortunately within a couple of weeks I
    had found another player and I'm have a blast with just having two
    PC's who are very invested in the game.

    Yeah, RPGs aren't like playing any old board-game.  You can make it more episodic, and indeed that's how it was originally played, but it's far
    more engaging and entertaining when you have a consistent set of
    characters.


    That's certainly what I prefer both as a GM and a player which is why I
    don't like the CoC trope, even in jest, of a GM isn't doing their job if
    a character lasts more than a couple of sessions without dying or going
    mad. Fortunately most GMs/players don't really think that but you do get
    the odd post online from a GM 'boasting' of how the managed to kill the
    whole party as though it takes some sort of skill as a GM to do that. No
    the skill is keeping up of the fear of death/insanity/cosmic horror
    while making sure it only happens due to player agency.

    I've also read posts from one somewhat obnoxious GM that thinks unless
    your players are dropping like flies you aren't playing 'real' CoC.


    Everything's so ephemeral theses days, that's a hard thing to achieve
    now though.


    It does feel as though the online world has been a real positive when it
    comes to being able to put groups together but a negative is there are a noticeable number of players who seem to think they can just treat it
    like a single player video game that revolves around them. One of the
    players I kicked basically throw a huff as they couldn't make the
    session next week so asked could we play a day earlier. I asked the
    players as a group and one person said they couldn't make it that day. I explained to the player that had the huff that no I'm not moving the
    session for them as it means another player can't play was not going to
    happen. They just didn't seem to get why I made that choice or
    understand how unreasonable they were being.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Altered Beast on Fri Aug 16 09:21:21 2024
    On 15/08/2024 21:19, Altered Beast wrote:
    Keep in mind that Darkest Dungeon is turn-based, so slightly off topic.

    This group long ago gave up the pretence that it's only for PC action
    games so I wouldn't worry about that!

    Think of it as more a group of people who chat about stuff some of which
    may be about computer games.

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 14:20:17 2024
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 15/08/2024 21:19, Altered Beast wrote:
    Keep in mind that Darkest Dungeon is turn-based, so slightly off topic.

    This group long ago gave up the pretence that it's only for PC action
    games so I wouldn't worry about that!

    Think of it as more a group of people who chat about stuff some of which
    may be about computer games.

    Since usenet dropped to a trickle, this place is more comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.whatever

    Xocyll

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Thu Aug 22 18:00:09 2024
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 18:20 this Friday (GMT):
    JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On 15/08/2024 21:19, Altered Beast wrote:
    Keep in mind that Darkest Dungeon is turn-based, so slightly off topic.

    This group long ago gave up the pretence that it's only for PC action
    games so I wouldn't worry about that!

    Think of it as more a group of people who chat about stuff some of which >>may be about computer games.

    Since usenet dropped to a trickle, this place is more comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.whatever

    Xocyll


    I think this is the only active com.sys.ibm group :D
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