• Re: FREE 5 day trial of Diablo IV Steam

    From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Aug 22 18:00:05 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 17:09 this Thursday (GMT):
    On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 08:20:40 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/22/2024 8:17 AM, Justisaur wrote:
    Diablo 4 is Free to try for 5 days!  Like a free weekend but longer.
    Also 40% off if you buy when it ends.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2344520/Diablo_IV/

    Possibly long enough to finish the game?

    DLing now myself.


    Dog Gamit! They got me. It's just the demo to level 20 that's always
    been available. What a bunch of BS.

    The combination of it being all-at-once an Activision game, a
    Microsoft game, a 'live-service' game, a Diablo game AND a
    time-limited trial were already enough to keep me from playing it.


    That they time-limited a DEMO is just icing on the cake. ;-)


    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's
    been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting
    the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I'm surprised they didn't throw Denuvo on top to really make a sh*tshow
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Aug 22 21:46:13 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    Diablo 4 is Free to try for 5 days! Like a free weekend but longer.
    Also 40% off if you buy when it ends.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2344520/Diablo_IV/

    Possibly long enough to finish the game?

    DLing now myself.

    Nonstop, yes. ;P

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 23 09:00:21 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    <snip>
    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's
    been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting
    the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I find BlizActiSoft flows better. :)

    But to misquote Shakespeare "A porta potty by any other name still
    stinks." Really doesn't matter what we call them.

    Xocyll

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sat Aug 24 09:51:32 2024
    On 22/08/2024 16:20, Justisaur wrote:
    On 8/22/2024 8:17 AM, Justisaur wrote:
    Diablo 4 is Free to try for 5 days!  Like a free weekend but longer.
    Also 40% off if you buy when it ends.

    https://store.steampowered.com/app/2344520/Diablo_IV/

    Possibly long enough to finish the game?

    DLing now myself.



    Dog Gamit!  They got me.  It's just the demo to level 20 that's always
    been available.  What a bunch of BS.


    Very much agree, why make a demo available as time limited and the Steam
    page doesn't even seem to mention that it's just the demo. Who am I
    kidding it's to 'encourage' people to download it and the end up buying
    the game.

    BS seems rather apt here.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Aug 24 16:40:03 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:39 this Friday (GMT):
    On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:00:21 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    <snip>
    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's >>>been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting
    the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I find BlizActiSoft flows better. :)


    Well, I _was_ considering ActiMicroBlizVisionSoftZard.

    Be grateful I cut it back! ;-)


    really is a "blizzard" of companies :)
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 25 01:54:53 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    <snip>
    I don't know what it is about Diablo that draws me in that other clones >(mostly) don't.

    Diablo and Diablo2 were made when they were being creative and catering
    to what players wanted not what made the most cash.
    So they had online mode(s) and single player mode.

    D3 they got greedy and thus forced everyone into battle.net play only to maximize their chances you'd spend more money.

    They sold their souls, and it shows.

    Xocyll

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 25 01:50:37 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:00:21 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    <snip>
    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's >>>been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting
    the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I find BlizActiSoft flows better. :)


    Well, I _was_ considering ActiMicroBlizVisionSoftZard.

    Be grateful I cut it back! ;-)

    Ah but that one doesn't sounds like something a company would actually
    use.
    BlizActiSoft, on the other hand sounds like something a marketing firm
    would come up with and find "Focus Groups" who agreed it was "awesome".

    Xocyll

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Sun Aug 25 09:28:35 2024
    On 24/08/2024 20:08, Justisaur wrote:
    The MTX seems to be only cosmetics from what I'm reading, which doesn't bother me.

    I kinda bothers me on principle that you pay a premium price for a game
    and they stuff it with MTX to try and wrangle more money out of you.
    Also my understanding is yes it's just cosmetics but most of the 'cool'
    stuff is behind a paywall.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Sun Aug 25 10:14:07 2024
    On 8/24/2024 10:50 PM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:00:21 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    <snip>
    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's >>>> been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting
    the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I find BlizActiSoft flows better. :)


    Well, I _was_ considering ActiMicroBlizVisionSoftZard.

    Be grateful I cut it back! ;-)

    Ah but that one doesn't sounds like something a company would actually
    use.
    BlizActiSoft, on the other hand sounds like something a marketing firm
    would come up with and find "Focus Groups" who agreed it was "awesome".

    No matter how many they had to go thru to find one that did agree with that.


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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Mon Aug 26 13:30:04 2024
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 05:54 this Sunday (GMT):
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    <snip>
    I don't know what it is about Diablo that draws me in that other clones >>(mostly) don't.

    Diablo and Diablo2 were made when they were being creative and catering
    to what players wanted not what made the most cash.
    So they had online mode(s) and single player mode.

    D3 they got greedy and thus forced everyone into battle.net play only to maximize their chances you'd spend more money.

    They sold their souls, and it shows.

    Xocyll


    To be fair, most companies seemed to go downhill
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 26 13:14:53 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On 8/24/2024 10:50 PM, Xocyll wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
    entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:00:21 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    <snip>
    I always find it amusing that Diablo is now on Steam (yes, I know it's >>>>> been on Steam since the start). I guess BlizzNet just wasn't getting >>>>> the traction ActiMicroBliz needed to pay the bills.


    I find BlizActiSoft flows better. :)


    Well, I _was_ considering ActiMicroBlizVisionSoftZard.

    Be grateful I cut it back! ;-)

    Ah but that one doesn't sounds like something a company would actually
    use.
    BlizActiSoft, on the other hand sounds like something a marketing firm
    would come up with and find "Focus Groups" who agreed it was "awesome".

    No matter how many they had to go thru to find one that did agree with that.

    Exactly.

    Xocyll

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Aug 27 10:28:03 2024
    On 27/08/2024 00:14, Justisaur wrote:
    On 8/25/2024 1:28 AM, JAB wrote:
    On 24/08/2024 20:08, Justisaur wrote:
    The MTX seems to be only cosmetics from what I'm reading, which
    doesn't bother me.

    I kinda bothers me on principle that you pay a premium price for a
    game and they stuff it with MTX to try and wrangle more money out of
    you. Also my understanding is yes it's just cosmetics but most of the
    'cool' stuff is behind a paywall.

    I'm having a really hard time resisting buying it. I keep thinking of it.

    I tried PoE again for a little bit, but I spent hours trying to
    understand a beginner's guide, and failed, and it's apparently almost a requirement to do so as you can miss important bits of a build if you
    out level them.  It's also ugly, everything is muddy looking. I know
    it's old and there's a PoE 2, but it feels as much a style issue.  The
    story didn't feel particularly exciting either, just typical generic
    quests. The attacks feel clunky and unsatisfying, and I only had one for
    the hours that I played.

    I've played PoE:1 and I kinda liked it but did find it very quickly tops
    out of you don't do the right type of builds. Unfortunately that's not
    why I play RPG's - I want to chose the character builds I fancy not ones
    I feel 'forced' to build. The lore from reading people's mind also
    became really tedious very quickly, I do like a bit of lore but this
    just felt like it was for the sake of it without really adding much.

    PoE:2 I enjoyed more as the setting makes a change from your average
    high fantasy of big bad evil. The biggest problem I found with it was
    the combat. You can choose between RTWP or turn based. The problem with
    the former is it doesn't really work so if you want to say intervene and
    get your fighter to drink a health potion then it's completely hit and
    miss if they do that don't expect that AI to do that either even if it's
    set like that. The only reliable way to do it is switch off character
    AI, drink the health potion, switch AI back on.

    What really put me off is this is a problem they introduced when they
    patched the game to introduced TB combat and even though they clearly
    knew they had pretty much broken RTWP they just never fixed it.

    The shorter version, unless yo like TB then don't buy it.

    On D4, it felt smooth, looked cool, the style was great, the story intriguing, and respecing was cheap and easy (I must've did it 10 times trying different things.)  I think I'm just going to have to buy it as
    much as it pains me.

    I suppose I could get MS Gamepass since it's on there.  I can't imagine playing it more than a couple months which would be cheaper than buying
    it and not reward Blizzard as much perhaps, and might be other things I
    could try with my time if I get bored of it quickly.

    There's a DLC coming out soon too, so not sure if I want to wait for
    that and buy/play them together.


    I'd probably think it was ok but I still enjoy playing Torchlight II and
    Titan Quest + DLC so it's a no buy from me unless it hits that £5 mark
    which I don't see happening anytime soon.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Tue Aug 27 09:14:35 2024
    On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:28:03 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I'd probably think it was ok but I still enjoy playing Torchlight II and >Titan Quest + DLC so it's a no buy from me unless it hits that £5 mark
    which I don't see happening anytime soon.

    Yeah, this is the main reason I do not bother buying anymore hack &
    slashers like D4. I am still playing Titan Quest and Torchlight 2 as
    well and I have Grim Dawn to play yet.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 27 09:10:10 2024
    On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 16:14:40 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    I tried PoE again for a little bit, but I spent hours trying to
    understand a beginner's guide, and failed, and it's apparently almost a >requirement to do so as you can miss important bits of a build if you
    out level them. It's also ugly, everything is muddy looking. I know
    it's old and there's a PoE 2, but it feels as much a style issue. The
    story didn't feel particularly exciting either, just typical generic
    quests. The attacks feel clunky and unsatisfying, and I only had one for
    the hours that I played.

    I had a very similar reaction to Path of Exile. And if D3 is anything
    to go by... I would probably prefer D4 as well.

    There's a DLC coming out soon too, so not sure if I want to wait for
    that and buy/play them together.

    I personally would definitely wait. I prefer a complete experience.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Wed Aug 28 08:51:33 2024
    On 27/08/2024 14:14, Mike S. wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:28:03 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    I'd probably think it was ok but I still enjoy playing Torchlight II and
    Titan Quest + DLC so it's a no buy from me unless it hits that £5 mark
    which I don't see happening anytime soon.

    Yeah, this is the main reason I do not bother buying anymore hack &
    slashers like D4. I am still playing Titan Quest and Torchlight 2 as
    well and I have Grim Dawn to play yet.

    Normally they are not a genre that I particularly enjoy but those just
    seem to have a formula that appeals to me so I've spent many hours on both.

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