Am 15.08.24 um 01:56 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

SteamOS, the operating system that runs on Valve's own handheld PC,
the SteamDeck, will soon be available* on other similar systems, such
as the ASUS ROG Ally.

Maybe one day. In the meantime, this move by Valve is a welcome step.

I have a SteamDeck myself, SteamOs nowadays is really nice. It slowly
comes together what Valve had planned from the beginnning. It is a
backup option for them if Microsoft pulls the plug and closes windows off.
Most of my games run without a hitch nowadays, but bear in mind that
I only play single player games.

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On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 11:54:35 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 12:27:25 +0200, "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> wrote:

Am 15.08.24 um 01:56 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

SteamOS, the operating system that runs on Valve's own handheld PC,
the SteamDeck, will soon be available* on other similar systems, such
as the ASUS ROG Ally.

Maybe one day. In the meantime, this move by Valve is a welcome step.

I have a SteamDeck myself, SteamOs nowadays is really nice. It slowly
comes together what Valve had planned from the beginnning. It is a
backup option for them if Microsoft pulls the plug and closes windows
off.
Most of my games run without a hitch nowadays, but bear in mind that I
only play single player games.

It was actually a stated plan for years, ever since Windows 8. There was
a great deal of nervousness on the part of Valve --and other vendors--
that the inclusion of an 'app store' in Windows 8 would give Microsoft unrivalled control over how and where people purchased or otherwise
acquired and installed applications (and games). After all, you only had
to look at the dominance Microsoft's own Internet Explorer had over the market (at the time) to see how the majority of people just stuck with
the OS defaults over using something else.

Funnily enough despite the fact that most Linux distros had their own
version of a graphical software center for years MS never managed to
properly integrate stuff the same way. The Ubuntu software center was
amazing in the early versions of Ubuntu. But the Windows 8 software center
felt like an unused appendage.

There is less of a concern of Microsoft locking down their OS these
days; if anything, it seems more and more likely that in the future MS
may actually switch to a Linux-variant and focus on cloud-based services rather than OS sales as their primary revenue stream. But whatever the future, Valve is making moves to remain relevant in the marketplace by creating services and products that are too popular and useful amongst
its customers for other companies to ignore.

I have been wondering the same. Windows seems more and more like a red-
headed step sibling to MS. It just isn't the moneymaker anymore, an
development likely is too expensive for not enough gain. The rest of the
world runs on unixoid systems, and stuff like that is slowly creeping into Windows proper (see: the new Sudo for Windows function)

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On 8/25/2024 5:37 AM, kyonshi wrote:

On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 11:54:35 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sat, 24 Aug 2024 12:27:25 +0200, "Werner P." <werpu@gmx.at> wrote:

Am 15.08.24 um 01:56 schrieb Spalls Hurgenson:

SteamOS, the operating system that runs on Valve's own handheld PC,
the SteamDeck, will soon be available* on other similar systems, such
as the ASUS ROG Ally.

Maybe one day. In the meantime, this move by Valve is a welcome step.

I have a SteamDeck myself, SteamOs nowadays is really nice. It slowly
comes together what Valve had planned from the beginnning. It is a
backup option for them if Microsoft pulls the plug and closes windows
off.
Most of my games run without a hitch nowadays, but bear in mind that I
only play single player games.

It was actually a stated plan for years, ever since Windows 8. There was
a great deal of nervousness on the part of Valve --and other vendors--
that the inclusion of an 'app store' in Windows 8 would give Microsoft
unrivalled control over how and where people purchased or otherwise
acquired and installed applications (and games). After all, you only had
to look at the dominance Microsoft's own Internet Explorer had over the
market (at the time) to see how the majority of people just stuck with
the OS defaults over using something else.

Funnily enough despite the fact that most Linux distros had their own
version of a graphical software center for years MS never managed to
properly integrate stuff the same way. The Ubuntu software center was
amazing in the early versions of Ubuntu. But the Windows 8 software center felt like an unused appendage.

There is less of a concern of Microsoft locking down their OS these
days; if anything, it seems more and more likely that in the future MS
may actually switch to a Linux-variant and focus on cloud-based services
rather than OS sales as their primary revenue stream. But whatever the
future, Valve is making moves to remain relevant in the marketplace by
creating services and products that are too popular and useful amongst
its customers for other companies to ignore.

I have been wondering the same. Windows seems more and more like a red- headed step sibling to MS. It just isn't the moneymaker anymore, an development likely is too expensive for not enough gain. The rest of the world runs on unixoid systems, and stuff like that is slowly creeping into Windows proper (see: the new Sudo for Windows function)

MS still probably has some lingering corporate culture about their
"real" clients for Windows are companies. Personal use by individuals
was (and maybe still is) at best a secondary consideration. So they
expect professional IT departments to be handling updates, upgrades and
most day-to-day issues.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

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