On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:18:53 -0700, Justisaur wrote:*--
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Elite Dangerous Odyssey has FPS that is usually constrained to
arena bouts at a settlement. Though, sometimes you'll have a
mission to restore power at a settlement, and there will be
Thargoid drones roaming around -- they can be tough.
The real "bosses" in the game, though, are the Thargoid starships,
which you don't have to go anywhere near if you don't
want to...usually.
Oh, and sometimes in a "High" Combat Zone, a capital ship
will jump in, which you have to make retreat. But you don't
end up in a CZ by accident, so you'll know what you're getting
into.
There might be Thargoid foot soldiers at some point, that
might offer some kind of "boss" play.
There's a lot more to the first person play than combat,
though -- I've just flown off on a xenobiology expedition
where one scans fungii, plants, and bacterial mats for
major space bucks. :)
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 10:21:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:18:53 -0700, Justisaur wrote:*--
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Elite Dangerous Odyssey has FPS that is usually constrained to arena
bouts at a settlement. Though, sometimes you'll have a mission to
restore power at a settlement, and there will be Thargoid drones roaming >>around -- they can be tough.
The real "bosses" in the game, though, are the Thargoid starships,
which you don't have to go anywhere near if you don't want to...usually.
Oh, and sometimes in a "High" Combat Zone, a capital ship will jump in, >>which you have to make retreat. But you don't end up in a CZ by
accident, so you'll know what you're getting into.
There might be Thargoid foot soldiers at some point, that might offer
some kind of "boss" play.
There's a lot more to the first person play than combat,
though -- I've just flown off on a xenobiology expedition where one
scans fungii, plants, and bacterial mats for major space bucks. :)
Lousy ratings on Steam. But thanks!
On 9/25/2024 1:16 PM, PW wrote:
Guess I am finally getting old and intolerant :-)
I don't think I can handle any more games like Elden Ring and others
with difficult boss fights.
Surely there must be some fun FPS games (probably own a few!) that
aren't a burden to play these days.
I don't remember if you tried it, Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have a lot of
boss fights. There are some though, Adam Smasher might be a bit
difficult, maybe like 4 or 5 others, but it's pretty easy for the most
part.
(Spam, spam, spam and eggs doesn't have much spam)
That's playing on the hardest mode though, it has easy mode which should
be a cakewalk without bothering with builds and weapons and such.
Deathloop has some weird difficulties, I'm not sure how easy it can be
made, there's some people that are a bit harder than the mooks I guess
could be called bosses. It's like half puzzle, but very very good.
Roboquest has difficulties, but I didn't even play it on hard, it's
cartoony and repetitive though so you might not like it.
Starfield, and of course all the Bethesda Fallout's can be easy mode
(maybe not 76?) but have bosses.
Pretty much none of those I'd put in ER territory for bosses (Roboquest >maybe.)
Mass Effects, and the newest Doom has difficulty levels too, though I
haven't tried either, I'm sure they have bosses too.
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Or just go for something much quicker, like the boomer-shooter
"Selaco". Yes, it's a retro game but it's got very quick-paced
arena-based shooting, with surprisingly deep mechanics for a game of
its type. If you just want to dive into some intense firefights
against hordes of enemies that quickly die beneath your withering
gunfire, this is a fun one to try.
On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:34:42 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
Or just go for something much quicker, like the boomer-shooter
"Selaco". Yes, it's a retro game but it's got very quick-paced >>>arena-based shooting, with surprisingly deep mechanics for a game of
its type. If you just want to dive into some intense firefights
against hordes of enemies that quickly die beneath your withering >>>gunfire, this is a fun one to try.
Who sells Selao?
It's published by Altered Orbit Studios (an Indie developer) and sold
on Steam (possibly elsewhere too but finding those elsewheres is up to
you;-)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1592280/Selaco/
Currently going for $25 USD, with a lowest recorded price of $19.99.
Even though it is nominally early access, it's a complete game and has
very solid mechanics already. The bigger issue is that it is _very_
much a 'boomer shooter' with very quick movement and reliance on
knowing which guns work best against which enemies. It also has 'retro >graphics', although this is so blinged up that it looks pretty good
despite that.
TL;DR: although it's niche, but a very good example of the genre.
I really did start to like Sker Ritual but it's always too close to
bed time when I think of playing it :-)
That's more of a horde-based shooter (which I never really enjoyed;
too repetitive). "Selaco" is more old-school, with definite
progression through levels until you get to the end.
Deathloop has some weird difficulties, I'm not sure how easy it can be
made, there's some people that are a bit harder than the mooks I guess
could be called bosses. It's like half puzzle, but very very good.
Roboquest has difficulties, but I didn't even play it on hard, it's
cartoony and repetitive though so you might not like it.
Starfield, and of course all the Bethesda Fallout's can be easy mode
(maybe not 76?) but have bosses.
Pretty much none of those I'd put in ER territory for bosses (Roboquest >maybe.)
Mass Effects, and the newest Doom has difficulty levels too, though I
haven't tried either, I'm sure they have bosses too.
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:56:04 -0600, PW wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 10:21:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:18:53 -0700, Justisaur wrote:*--
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Elite Dangerous Odyssey has FPS that is usually constrained to arena >>>bouts at a settlement. Though, sometimes you'll have a mission to >>>restore power at a settlement, and there will be Thargoid drones roaming >>>around -- they can be tough.
The real "bosses" in the game, though, are the Thargoid starships,
which you don't have to go anywhere near if you don't want to...usually.
Oh, and sometimes in a "High" Combat Zone, a capital ship will jump in, >>>which you have to make retreat. But you don't end up in a CZ by >>>accident, so you'll know what you're getting into.
There might be Thargoid foot soldiers at some point, that might offer >>>some kind of "boss" play.
There's a lot more to the first person play than combat,
though -- I've just flown off on a xenobiology expedition where one
scans fungii, plants, and bacterial mats for major space bucks. :)
Lousy ratings on Steam. But thanks!
Be sure and read the reviews.
I finally posted mine after over 10,000 hours of play, accumulated
over 10 years. I posited my opinion that it's a simulator with game
elements bolted on, which isn't for everyone. For the most part,
you have to find your own things to do -- if you're expecting a game
on rails, Elite Dangerous Odyssey definitely isn't for you.
Also, the game engine also has become a bit dated. I hope they
update it someday.
I recently took some time out from my regular BGS activities and
went exploring. It's an excuse to fly space ships looking for
life -- and when finding it, scanning it. I was 800LY from
Sol, on planets that nobody had ever stepped foot on before.
It's only a simulation, but I still find it a restful pastime.
Ant might not like it as one of the enemies are minivan sized ants you
kill by the hoard.
On 10/1/2024 9:38 AM, PW wrote:
Deathloop has some weird difficulties, I'm not sure how easy it can be
made, there's some people that are a bit harder than the mooks I guess
could be called bosses. It's like half puzzle, but very very good.
I really could not understand Deathloop or enjoy it, even though it
got a perfect rating from PC Gamer (I think) and a must play.
Roboquest has difficulties, but I didn't even play it on hard, it's
cartoony and repetitive though so you might not like it.
Got it!
Starfield, and of course all the Bethesda Fallout's can be easy mode
(maybe not 76?) but have bosses.
Have both/all. Stopped playing Starfield but maybe should give it a
go along with BG3 again (too much to learn for me).
Pretty much none of those I'd put in ER territory for bosses (Roboquest
maybe.)
Mass Effects, and the newest Doom has difficulty levels too, though I
haven't tried either, I'm sure they have bosses too.
Was loving it, why did I stop? I have the trilogy.
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
You done good!
Hey Justisaur - please tell Spalls that Elden Ring IS an FPS (too)!! I mean, it is constant battles :-)
If you count playing as an astrologer it sure feels like it. It's just
a magic pew pew from a staff. To the point I started finding that playthrough boring, as pretty much at least the first third of the game
all the other attack spells were worse than the one you started with.
Many a weapon, especially the better ones also have pew pews. My dex
build mostly used Bolt of Gransax's art of war (sort of alt-fire) which
was like a high caliber sniper rifle.
PS, How could I forget EDF! Earth Defense 6 is an awesome well 3rd
person shooter (though some scoping gives you FP,) and you have all the
bang bangs you could ask for. Also has easy mode, though I suggest a
little farming on certain easily farmable levels on hard to get more
advanced weapons that'll make it even easier. Play ranger class for
classic bang bang play, though I personally prefer the Wing Diver which
has limited flight and pew pew sci-fi weapons and is more glass cannon.
Ant might not like it as one of the enemies are minivan sized ants you
kill by the hoard.
I don't know about number of bosses, but pretty much only the last level
had a Boss in EDF 5, unless you count a mothership, mobile base, and
mother ants, wasps, and kaiju which are all over the place.
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
On 9/25/2024 1:16 PM, PW wrote:
Guess I am finally getting old and intolerant :-)
I don't think I can handle any more games like Elden Ring and others
with difficult boss fights.
Surely there must be some fun FPS games (probably own a few!) that
aren't a burden to play these days.
I don't remember if you tried it, Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't have a lot of
boss fights. There are some though, Adam Smasher might be a bit
difficult, maybe like 4 or 5 others, but it's pretty easy for the most
part.
(Spam, spam, spam and eggs doesn't have much spam)
That's playing on the hardest mode though, it has easy mode which should
be a cakewalk without bothering with builds and weapons and such.
Deathloop has some weird difficulties, I'm not sure how easy it can be
made, there's some people that are a bit harder than the mooks I guess
could be called bosses. It's like half puzzle, but very very good.
Roboquest has difficulties, but I didn't even play it on hard, it's
cartoony and repetitive though so you might not like it.
Starfield, and of course all the Bethesda Fallout's can be easy mode
(maybe not 76?) but have bosses.
Pretty much none of those I'd put in ER territory for bosses (Roboquest >maybe.)
Mass Effects, and the newest Doom has difficulty levels too, though I
haven't tried either, I'm sure they have bosses too.
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
On 10/1/2024 8:26 PM, PW wrote:
Ant might not like it as one of the enemies are minivan sized ants you
kill by the hoard.
How far into the game is that? I might buy it!!! hehe
Second mission. First mission is 90% tutorial & intro, with 3 alien
"humans" to kill at the end of it.
It can be played multiplayer with password too, if you do get into it
I'd be happy to come kill some bugs and *spoilers* with you. It does
limit armor and weapons found later/harder missions somewhat on
multiplayer, but not enough to matter on easy or normal, but enough that
I couldn't come in and just carpet bomb everything... probably.
It is a multiplayer game so I automatically pass but thanks!
It isn't, not really. It's a single-player game with a stupid
always-online requirement, and one where you can sometimes bump into
real players. But the core of the game is largely single-player. It's
mostly about managing your own ship and trade routes. Sure, you can
band up with others but still, you're doing a lot of the work alone.
Which, again, isn't to say the game is for you. It seems clear that
this genre isn't the sort of thing you're really into (which is fine).
All I ask is that you reject it for the right reasons ;-)
O
Thanks Spalls!!It is a multiplayer game so I automatically pass but thanks!
It isn't, not really. It's a single-player game with a stupid
always-online requirement, and one where you can sometimes bump into
real players. But the core of the game is largely single-player. It's >>mostly about managing your own ship and trade routes. Sure, you can band
up with others but still, you're doing a lot of the work alone.
Which, again, isn't to say the game is for you. It seems clear that this >>genre isn't the sort of thing you're really into (which is fine).
All I ask is that you reject it for the right reasons ;-)
I quit playing Diablo 4 because there were strangers in my games even
though I set it otherwise. I am a strictly single player game person.
-pw
On Thu, 03 Oct 2024 21:09:28 -0600, PW wrote:
O
Thanks Spalls!!It is a multiplayer game so I automatically pass but thanks!
It isn't, not really. It's a single-player game with a stupid >>>always-online requirement, and one where you can sometimes bump into
real players. But the core of the game is largely single-player. It's >>>mostly about managing your own ship and trade routes. Sure, you can band >>>up with others but still, you're doing a lot of the work alone.
Which, again, isn't to say the game is for you. It seems clear that this >>>genre isn't the sort of thing you're really into (which is fine).
All I ask is that you reject it for the right reasons ;-)
I quit playing Diablo 4 because there were strangers in my games even
though I set it otherwise. I am a strictly single player game person.
-pw
FWIW: EDO has "solo" mode, where you won't run into any other players.
It's still "online" though, since whatever you do affects the game's
galaxy.
It also has a kind of in-between mode, "player group", where you'll only
see people in the player group you're signed on with. Some people use
this to avoid the gankers, including those participating in the "Mobius"
PG, which is PVE, but you might run into other "Mobius" players.
On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:59:31 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Oct 2024 21:09:28 -0600, PW wrote:
O
Thanks Spalls!!It is a multiplayer game so I automatically pass but thanks!
It isn't, not really. It's a single-player game with a stupid >>>>always-online requirement, and one where you can sometimes bump into >>>>real players. But the core of the game is largely single-player. It's >>>>mostly about managing your own ship and trade routes. Sure, you can >>>>band up with others but still, you're doing a lot of the work alone.
Which, again, isn't to say the game is for you. It seems clear that >>>>this genre isn't the sort of thing you're really into (which is fine). >>>>All I ask is that you reject it for the right reasons ;-)
I quit playing Diablo 4 because there were strangers in my games even
though I set it otherwise. I am a strictly single player game person.
-pw
FWIW: EDO has "solo" mode, where you won't run into any other players.
It's still "online" though, since whatever you do affects the game's >>galaxy.
It also has a kind of in-between mode, "player group", where you'll only >>see people in the player group you're signed on with. Some people use
this to avoid the gankers, including those participating in the "Mobius" >>PG, which is PVE, but you might run into other "Mobius" players.
*---
Thanks Vailor!
My internet connection shouldn't be much of a problem. Could it just be myself in a player group?
Maybe I should try it.
-pw
On 9/29/2024 8:04 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:56:04 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 10:21:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:18:53 -0700, Justisaur wrote:*--
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that
could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Elite Dangerous Odyssey has FPS that is usually constrained to
arena bouts at a settlement. Though, sometimes you'll have a
mission to restore power at a settlement, and there will be
Thargoid drones roaming around -- they can be tough.
The real "bosses" in the game, though, are the Thargoid starships,
which you don't have to go anywhere near if you don't
want to...usually.
Oh, and sometimes in a "High" Combat Zone, a capital ship
will jump in, which you have to make retreat. But you don't
end up in a CZ by accident, so you'll know what you're getting
into.
There might be Thargoid foot soldiers at some point, that
might offer some kind of "boss" play.
There's a lot more to the first person play than combat,
though -- I've just flown off on a xenobiology expedition
where one scans fungii, plants, and bacterial mats for
major space bucks. :)
Lousy ratings on Steam. But thanks!
I'd take those ratings with a grain of salt. There's _still_ a lot of
upset about the online requirements, and the game doesn't have the
easiest difficulty curves. It's expansions have been a bit hit-or-miss
too, and have sometimes changed the experience considerably. But the
core game... look, if you enjoy the genre --a genre that Elite
_created_ back in 1984!-- there are very few games that will match
"Elite: Dangerous".
And I say this as somebody who is both one of the "still pissed about
the online requirements" and somebody who doesn't really like games
from that genre. I don't personally _like_ playing "Elite:
Dangerous"... but even I am forced to admit that it is a very good
game despite that.
It is niche, though. If you're not a big fan of space-sims and
buy-low/sell-high games, you're going to have to WORK to like the game
(sort of like you have to put in the effort to enjoy brutal games like
Dark Souls). But it's well worth the effort... despite what user
reviews say.
Which isn't to say you should go out and buy it. It may not be the
sort of game you enjoy. Just don't base your decision on the user
reviews.
PW - you probably already have Elite Dangerous as it was given away by
Epic, however I think that may mean you have to buy from Epic for the
DLCs like Odyssey if you want to use it with Epic's version. I'd have
to look into that.
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 10:51:02 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 9/29/2024 8:04 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Sat, 28 Sep 2024 21:56:04 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 10:21:01 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 12:18:53 -0700, Justisaur wrote:*--
I can't actually think of anything that doesn't have something that >>>>>> could be construed as a boss that involves combat.
Elite Dangerous Odyssey has FPS that is usually constrained to arena >>>>> bouts at a settlement. Though, sometimes you'll have a mission to
restore power at a settlement, and there will be Thargoid drones
roaming around -- they can be tough.
The real "bosses" in the game, though, are the Thargoid starships,
which you don't have to go anywhere near if you don't want
to...usually.
Oh, and sometimes in a "High" Combat Zone, a capital ship will jump
in, which you have to make retreat. But you don't end up in a CZ by >>>>> accident, so you'll know what you're getting into.
There might be Thargoid foot soldiers at some point, that might
offer some kind of "boss" play.
There's a lot more to the first person play than combat,
though -- I've just flown off on a xenobiology expedition where one
scans fungii, plants, and bacterial mats for major space bucks. :)
Lousy ratings on Steam. But thanks!
I'd take those ratings with a grain of salt. There's _still_ a lot of
upset about the online requirements, and the game doesn't have the
easiest difficulty curves. It's expansions have been a bit hit-or-miss
too, and have sometimes changed the experience considerably. But the
core game... look, if you enjoy the genre --a genre that Elite
_created_ back in 1984!-- there are very few games that will match
"Elite: Dangerous".
And I say this as somebody who is both one of the "still pissed about
the online requirements" and somebody who doesn't really like games
from that genre. I don't personally _like_ playing "Elite:
Dangerous"... but even I am forced to admit that it is a very good
game despite that.
It is niche, though. If you're not a big fan of space-sims and
buy-low/sell-high games, you're going to have to WORK to like the game
(sort of like you have to put in the effort to enjoy brutal games like
Dark Souls). But it's well worth the effort... despite what user
reviews say.
Which isn't to say you should go out and buy it. It may not be the
sort of game you enjoy. Just don't base your decision on the user
reviews.
PW - you probably already have Elite Dangerous as it was given away by >>Epic, however I think that may mean you have to buy from Epic for the
DLCs like Odyssey if you want to use it with Epic's version. I'd have
to look into that.
*--
Rats Justisaur! I forgot about my Epic games!!!!!!!!! So I bought both
from Steam last night.
Aargh!
Can I just play Odyssey? I think it installed into the main game. I
will boot it up and see in a few minutes.
I might just restart BG3, or Starfield, or Disco Elysium from the
beginning or get back to Cyberpunk.
I am crazy!!
Thanks!!
-pw
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