• Dial-up modems (Re: FREE GAME: Spirit of the Mouse)

    From Ant@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Oct 8 02:07:34 2024
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
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    right

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    ATH0
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    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)
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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 9 13:06:08 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than >>> it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    Don't be too sure, I hunt and peck at a quite fast rate (never learned
    to touch type and the allowable mistakes in touch typing, just plain DO
    NOT WORK when programming and it HAS TO BE RIGHT.

    I am however not one of those two-fingered hunt and peck types like you
    see in old police dramas, glacially typing up their reports on a
    typewriter or computer.

    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day).
    Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Never used 300 baud, but first modem was a Zoltrix 2400, soon upgraded
    to a USR 14k4.

    I think I still have a ISA 56k modem around here somewhere, but of
    course no landline.

    Xocyll

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Oct 10 00:16:58 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than >> it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day).
    Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Oct 10 20:23:29 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:16:58 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day).
    Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    No, not the modem connection audio. The line noises that lag and even disconnect your connections. If the dial-up modem didn't have error
    corrections like my 2400 modems, then you get bunch of characters on
    screen if using text mode connections like in BBSes with terminal
    clients like $^UY&HW24tr856g65 (pretend some of these are extended ASCII characters too). :(

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Oct 10 18:36:27 2024
    On 10/10/2024 8:45 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:16:58 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than >>>>> it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day).
    Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    Then you were never properly IN the dial-up era of the Internet!!

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Oct 11 18:08:38 2024
    On 10/11/2024 8:02 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 20:23:29 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:16:58 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of >>>>> games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit >>>>> slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >>>>> Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I
    learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    No, not the modem connection audio. The line noises that lag and even
    disconnect your connections. If the dial-up modem didn't have error
    corrections like my 2400 modems, then you get bunch of characters on
    screen if using text mode connections like in BBSes with terminal
    clients like $^UY&HW24tr856g65 (pretend some of these are extended ASCII
    characters too). :(

    Oh, that.

    I was fairly lucky; I never had significant problems with line noise
    (then again, as noted, the majority of my modeming-years were in an
    era where modems _did_ have built-in era correction).

    So, did your modems come from the future or the past? O_o

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 12 02:14:31 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 20:23:29 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:16:58 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of >> >> games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >> >> Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I
    learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    No, not the modem connection audio. The line noises that lag and even >disconnect your connections. If the dial-up modem didn't have error >corrections like my 2400 modems, then you get bunch of characters on
    screen if using text mode connections like in BBSes with terminal
    clients like $^UY&HW24tr856g65 (pretend some of these are extended ASCII >characters too). :(

    Oh, that.

    I was fairly lucky; I never had significant problems with line noise
    (then again, as noted, the majority of my modeming-years were in an
    era where modems _did_ have built-in era correction). Disconnects were actually fairly uncommon for me. And software existed to automatically
    redial if there was a disconnect, so even when it did happen it wasn't
    more than a momentary annoyance.

    I never had good and fast dial-up modem connections due to crappy copper
    phone lines and far away to central offices (COs). I couldn't even get
    DSL. Not even IDSL.


    Maybe it was more of an issue on the Apple ][; I really don't
    remember. It may or may not have had error-correction; I have no idea
    as to the specs or capability of the modem I used. (I dont' even know
    the brand). But, I think, between the wonderousness of just being
    able to connect to another computer, and the fact that I didn't make
    much use of the thing, I've no recollection as to how often I had to
    redial because my connection got unceremoniously dumped whilst
    browsing some BBS. It may have happened -it probably did- but it
    didn't stick with me as some tremendous disadvantage.

    Honestly, given the limited capability of the Apple ][, the computer
    probably froze long before the line noise had a chance to kill any connection. ;-)

    I never had dial-up for my Apple //c. I got an internal Zoom (Hayes
    compatible) 2400 modem for my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. It was
    Prodigy (still remember my TGSV85B ID) and BBSes. :)
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Sat Oct 12 02:17:50 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >>> Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    Then you were never properly IN the dial-up era of the Internet!!

    Let's fix that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xalTFH5ht-k :)
    It's funny to read the auto text (subtitle/closed captioning)s. :D

    Speaking of action games, what games did you play over dial-up? For me,
    Duke3D, DOOM, Heretic, BattleZone, MotoRacer, Diablo, Warcraft, Quake, etc.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 12 19:39:33 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 02:14:31 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:



    I never had good and fast dial-up modem connections due to crappy copper >phone lines and far away to central offices (COs). I couldn't even get
    DSL. Not even IDSL.

    Like I said, I was fairly lucky in that regard. Although conditions
    started seriously degrading by the 2010s. I was still on DSL, and due
    to rotting copper, when my normally solid connection dropped down to
    almost dial-up speeds.



    I never had dial-up for my Apple //c. I got an internal Zoom (Hayes >compatible) 2400 modem for my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC. It was >Prodigy (still remember my TGSV85B ID) and BBSes. :)

    I recall trawling computer magazines looking for adverts featuring
    Bulletin Boards in my area. Or ringing up the telephone operator to
    confirm that a certain exchange would count as a 'local' telephone
    call and not incur extra charges.

    (although I suspect most of those memories are from my PC days. I know
    I used the modem with the Apple ][ - including bulletin boards- but
    mostly it was connecting directly to friends' PCs)

    The modem didn't really gain importance to me until I discovered the
    Internet (which at first I _didn't_ use a modem to connect to). But
    after I did, my addiction to Usenet made that modem incredibly useful
    ;-)

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use
    Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sat Oct 12 20:13:39 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 02:17:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:


    Speaking of action games, what games did you play over dial-up? For me, >Duke3D, DOOM, Heretic, BattleZone, MotoRacer, Diablo, Warcraft, Quake, etc.

    If you mean direct connect (as opposed to dial-up Internet), then
    pretty much Doom. I think we tried Falcon 3.0 (or some flight sim?)
    and Wing Commander Armada, and a few others here and there (thinking
    back, I remember Witchhaven briefly entertained us) but mainly I
    remember playing a lot of Doom.

    Nah, that's like direct serial connection. I remember parallel cable
    could be used for DOOM back in 1994! It actually worked, but slow. I
    tried to find it but https://archive.org/details/cdrom_201511 is
    temporarily down. :(.


    (Also, on occasion, BBS Door games and MUDs)

    (Also also, table-top RPGs via chat ;-)

    Although, once the Internet / TCP-IP took off and became the primary
    method of interconnect, it was an entirely different story. Quake,
    Quake II, Diablo, Tribes, Unreal Tournament, Mechwarrior II, Need for
    Speed (in its various iterations but I've particularly fond memories
    of Porsche Unleashed) and a host more games. During the late 90s and
    early 2000s, if a game I bought had a multiplayer component, I at
    least _tried_ it.

    But that modem... it definitely affected the experience. Especially
    after other players started getting faster cable/DSL connections while
    I remained one of the laggards on POTS.* 200ms+ ping-times were the
    usual for dial-up, but when playing against 5ms cable-internet
    bastards, you really felt the difference ;-)

    I eventually soured on multiplayer gaming, partly because the gameplay
    no longer appealed to me (for a huge variety of reasons), and a lot
    because of the changing culture

    [e.g. the advent of the potty-mouthed ten-year old]

    but the less-than-stellar experience of playing on dial-up definitely influenced me too. By the time I eventually upgraded to DSL, I had
    been broken of the habit. It's not that I don't play multiplayer games
    at all anymore... but it's an incidental "let's see what it's like" or
    a "hey Bob, just for the fun of it let's play GTA5 Online for a night"
    rather than a lifestyle thing like it used to be.


    -----------
    * yes, pedants, I'm well aware that DSL is on POTS** too
    ** Plain Old telephone Service, in case you didn't know. Analog
    signals sent over copper wire. As opposed to fiber or internet over
    cable TV

    ;)
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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Oct 13 07:46:31 2024
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:39:33 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use
    Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

    I started using Usenet when I was in High School. I had a tech savvy
    friend who introduced me to it.

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Oct 13 07:59:44 2024
    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:45:02 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:16:58 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 08 Oct 2024 02:07:34 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than >>> >> it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day).
    Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I >learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    I loved that noise. Especially the *ping* *ping* of 52K.

    --
    Zag

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    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Oct 13 07:58:49 2024
    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K >modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed.
    Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    --
    Zag

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 13 10:51:53 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K >>modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed. >Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    It still fulfills a need - to send a copy of a physical document that
    the sender is retaining - like a Doctor sending a prescription renewal
    to a Pharmacist.

    Beats having to pick up the physical scrip, taking it to the pharmacy,
    then either waiting or coming back a couple days later.

    Xocyll

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 13 11:07:05 2024
    ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
    spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    ...
    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >> >>> Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I
    learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    Then you were never properly IN the dial-up era of the Internet!!

    Let's fix that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xalTFH5ht-k :)
    It's funny to read the auto text (subtitle/closed captioning)s. :D

    Speaking of action games, what games did you play over dial-up? For me, >Duke3D, DOOM, Heretic, BattleZone, MotoRacer, Diablo, Warcraft, Quake, etc.

    Being mostly a single player guy, not many.

    Descent a few times, DOOM co-op a couple of times.

    Diablo - I would start a game in network multiplayer mode and play solo.
    In the event I got a bad random level and got killed and could not
    retrieve my stuff, I'd call up a friend and he'd join the game and help.
    I did the same for him.

    Limited multiplayer Mechwarior 3 - It was just head to head duels so it
    wasn't much fun, although I have a fond memory of the aforementioned
    friend picking a small fast mech for a duel and me taking a large one I
    armed with Gauss Rifles and me blowing off half his mech with the first
    salvo.

    I think that's about it, although it's possible we did a duke3d
    multiplayer at some point, and I think I might have done quake pvp once

    Xocyll

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Sun Oct 13 08:55:52 2024
    On 10/13/2024 5:58 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K
    modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed. Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    I work with lawyers (clerical in a DA's office). We still mail physical
    paper documents.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Oct 14 00:00:15 2024
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/13/2024 5:58 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K
    modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed. Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    I work with lawyers (clerical in a DA's office). We still mail physical paper documents.

    And faxes?
    --
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Sun Oct 13 23:59:57 2024
    Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K >>modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed. >Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    It still fulfills a need - to send a copy of a physical document that
    the sender is retaining - like a Doctor sending a prescription renewal
    to a Pharmacist.

    Beats having to pick up the physical scrip, taking it to the pharmacy,
    then either waiting or coming back a couple days later.

    Japan still uses fax. :O
    --
    "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." --1 Corinthians 10:13.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Oct 14 00:00:47 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:39:33 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use >Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

    I started using Usenet when I was in High School. I had a tech savvy
    friend who introduced me to it.

    What did you use for it back then?
    --
    "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." --1 Corinthians 10:13.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Mon Oct 14 00:01:44 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:13:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 02:17:50 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:


    Speaking of action games, what games did you play over dial-up? For me, >> >Duke3D, DOOM, Heretic, BattleZone, MotoRacer, Diablo, Warcraft, Quake, etc.


    If you mean direct connect (as opposed to dial-up Internet), then
    pretty much Doom. I think we tried Falcon 3.0 (or some flight sim?)
    and Wing Commander Armada, and a few others here and there (thinking
    back, I remember Witchhaven briefly entertained us) but mainly I
    remember playing a lot of Doom.


    Nah, that's like direct serial connection. I remember parallel cable
    could be used for DOOM back in 1994! It actually worked, but slow. I
    tried to find it but https://archive.org/details/cdrom_201511 is >temporarily down. :(.


    Well, only in the sense that the modem connected to the serial port.

    [Oh boy, those were the days when you had to know the IRQ
    and port assignments for your serial ports. I am NOT unhappy
    that little bit of trivia has escaped my brain]

    You could do a direct connect between two computers via serial (either
    by a null-modem cable or parallel if you were hacky) but modems meant
    you didn't have to be in the same room. It did limit you to just two players... but then so did serial connects.

    It being the early days of multiplayer, my friends and I shared a
    couple of walkie-talkie radios (as we lived in nearby apartments) that
    had _just_ enough range to allow us voice communications. ;-)

    Ha, Much better than typing and reading chat texts.
    --
    "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." --1 Corinthians 10:13.
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Zaghadka on Mon Oct 14 00:03:24 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    We had an acoustic coupler for awhile. I think I could type faster than
    it sent letters.

    That's like 300 speed. ;)

    Depends on how fast you can type :-)
    300 baud is probably amazingly fast to hunt-n-peck typists.

    I hunt and peck on smartphones since I have to have one hand hold it and while other hand type!


    And in the 80s, before GUIs were common and everything -even a lot of
    games - were character-based, 300 baud was probably usable, if a bit
    slow. Although I can't imagine using anything that pokey for
    downloading stuff; even 28,8kbps was tedious at those speeds (the
    original Doom Shareware took me over an hour to get, back in the day). >>> Even looking at images was a chore; you'd queue up two or three and
    that would be it for the night ;-)

    Yeah, but you had those evil line noises!!!!!!!!!!!!

    No, you didn't. Most modems supported the AT M0 command, which turned
    off the speaker from the start. It was one of the first AT commands I >learned, and boy howdy did I make sure every AT string I used included
    it! That squeal people associate with the dial-up era of the Internet?

    I never heard it.

    I loved that noise. Especially the *ping* *ping* of 52K.

    My crappy phone lines couldn't go that fast due to distance, ages, etc.
    At best, I could download at 3 kB/s with compressed datas. :( IIRC, FCC
    limited to 53K too.

    --
    "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." --1 Corinthians 10:13.
    Trojans failed again. Go Doyers!
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Oct 13 20:19:36 2024
    On 10/13/2024 5:00 PM, Ant wrote:
    Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
    On 10/13/2024 5:58 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
    On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 17:02:09 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    Still, I stayed on dial-up for a long time (albeit with a faster 56K
    modem)... well into the 2000s. The Internet was still _usable_ at
    those speeds, and as for downloads? I'd just queue everything up and
    let it run overnight.

    The year 2000 (or was it 1999?) is when I got SDSL 768Kbps installed.
    Upgraded from USR 56k.

    I was ecstatic with (a little) less than T1 speeds. After that, I only
    used my USR for fax. Can you believe we *still* fax?

    I work with lawyers (clerical in a DA's office). We still mail physical
    paper documents.

    And faxes?

    Sent and received via our printers which are also scanners, coming in as
    PDFs so they can be directly uploaded to the case tracking system.

    The actual hard copy stuff is basically just certified documents which
    legally cannot be copied.

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Ant on Mon Oct 14 09:38:50 2024
    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    What did you use for it back then?

    Maybe an older edition of the client I use now, which is Agent. If
    Agent wasn't a thing back then, then I just don't remember.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Mike S on Tue Oct 15 00:50:04 2024
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 11:46 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:39:33 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use >>Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

    I started using Usenet when I was in High School. I had a tech savvy
    friend who introduced me to it.


    Hey same, but I just stumbled into it.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Oct 15 13:30:27 2024
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 11:18:33 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:50:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 ><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 11:46 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:39:33 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use >>>>Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

    I started using Usenet when I was in High School. I had a tech savvy
    friend who introduced me to it.


    Hey same, but I just stumbled into it.

    Which just brings up the question:

    How does one _stumble upon_ Usenet in 2024? Especially the text
    newsgroups. It's such a tiny, outdated community, and the learning
    curve -compared to other networks- is much higher; you have to find
    (and sign up for) an NNTP host, get the software, configure the
    software... It's just far more effort than most people would ever
    bother to perform for what is, essentially, the same experience you'd
    get from Reddit or any web-forum.

    What makes somebody one day say, "Hey, I've heard about this Usenet
    thing, I think I'll look into it?" when there are so many easier -and >arguably more rewarding- options?

    Binaries?

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Tue Oct 15 21:30:04 2024
    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 15:18 this Tuesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 00:50:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
    <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 11:46 this Sunday (GMT):
    On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:39:33 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I didn't do newsgroups until I got to college. My friend told me to use >>>>Tin. I am still using it and many other text mode programs today. :P

    I started using Usenet when I was in High School. I had a tech savvy
    friend who introduced me to it.


    Hey same, but I just stumbled into it.

    Which just brings up the question:

    How does one _stumble upon_ Usenet in 2024? Especially the text
    newsgroups. It's such a tiny, outdated community, and the learning
    curve -compared to other networks- is much higher; you have to find
    (and sign up for) an NNTP host, get the software, configure the
    software... It's just far more effort than most people would ever
    bother to perform for what is, essentially, the same experience you'd
    get from Reddit or any web-forum.

    What makes somebody one day say, "Hey, I've heard about this Usenet
    thing, I think I'll look into it?" when there are so many easier -and arguably more rewarding- options?


    Being fascinated with BBSes and finding one with a link to USENET?
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Wed Oct 16 02:25:43 2024
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    What did you use for it back then?

    Maybe an older edition of the client I use now, which is Agent. If
    Agent wasn't a thing back then, then I just don't remember.

    Is Agent still being updated?
    --
    "But the Israelites said to the Lord, 'We have sinned. Do with us whatever you think best, but please rescue us now.' Then they got rid of the foreign gods among them and served the Lord. And he could bear Israel's misery no longer." --Judges 10:15. We
    all need 2 do da same 2! Ow, hurty backy after a 8 hrs. hibernation with 1 pee break. :( Finally cooler weather & emptied bins. Need a new video card to play Microid's 2024 Empire of the Ants game.
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Tue Oct 15 22:24:54 2024
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:04:13 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Justisaur wrote:

    On 10/15/2024 7:25 PM, Ant wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    What did you use for it back then?

    Maybe an older edition of the client I use now, which is Agent. If
    Agent wasn't a thing back then, then I just don't remember.

    Is Agent still being updated?

    Forte is kaput, very recently though. Agent hasn't been updated in over
    a decade before that though.

    Having little need for the binaries function, I'm still on v3.3!

    --
    Zag

    No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
    spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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  • From Xocyll@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 15 23:28:59 2024
    Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
    the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:04:13 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Justisaur wrote:

    On 10/15/2024 7:25 PM, Ant wrote:
    Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:47 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    What did you use for it back then?

    Maybe an older edition of the client I use now, which is Agent. If
    Agent wasn't a thing back then, then I just don't remember.

    Is Agent still being updated?

    Forte is kaput, very recently though. Agent hasn't been updated in over
    a decade before that though.

    Having little need for the binaries function, I'm still on v3.3!

    2.0/32.640

    I only upgrade when there is a need, and it never stopped working.

    Can't use if for email anymore though, since all the email sites want a security protocol it doesn't do.

    Xocyll

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to Xocyll on Wed Oct 16 08:55:58 2024
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:28:59 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

    Can't use if for email anymore though, since all the email sites want a >security protocol it doesn't do.

    Xocyll

    Yep. I just had to stop using Agent for an old hotmail\outlook email
    address I was using due to a security thing. I am using Agent 6.0

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Wed Oct 16 08:59:58 2024
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:30:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

    Being fascinated with BBSes and finding one with a link to USENET?

    Interesting. I started with BBSes as well.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 16 08:59:17 2024
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:27 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Binaries?

    Binaries are definitely still a thing on Usenet and it is safer then
    torrents. But I am more curious as to why anyone significantly younger
    then me would come to Usenet for messaging groups though.

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Mike S on Fri Oct 18 20:30:06 2024
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:59 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:27 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Binaries?

    Binaries are definitely still a thing on Usenet and it is safer then torrents. But I am more curious as to why anyone significantly younger
    then me would come to Usenet for messaging groups though.


    maybe bc I dont rly have friends irl lol
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  • From Ant@21:1/5 to candycanearter07@candycanearter07.n on Sun Oct 20 02:13:11 2024
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:59 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:27 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Binaries?

    Binaries are definitely still a thing on Usenet and it is safer then torrents. But I am more curious as to why anyone significantly younger
    then me would come to Usenet for messaging groups though.

    maybe bc I dont rly have friends irl lol

    R we not yo friends irl? :P
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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Ant on Sun Oct 20 20:50:05 2024
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 02:13 this Sunday (GMT):
    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:59 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:27 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Binaries?

    Binaries are definitely still a thing on Usenet and it is safer then
    torrents. But I am more curious as to why anyone significantly younger
    then me would come to Usenet for messaging groups though.

    maybe bc I dont rly have friends irl lol

    R we not yo friends irl? :P


    I wish..
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  • From Zaghadka@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Sun Oct 20 16:14:12 2024
    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:06:24 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
    Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Oct 2024 02:13:11 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
    Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 12:59 this Wednesday (GMT):
    On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 13:30:27 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    Binaries?

    Binaries are definitely still a thing on Usenet and it is safer then
    torrents. But I am more curious as to why anyone significantly younger >>> > then me would come to Usenet for messaging groups though.

    maybe bc I dont rly have friends irl lol

    R we not yo friends irl? :P

    I'd offer to be your friend, but I'm pretty sure I am neither real nor
    alive.

    It's hard being a figment.

    OMG. The Dead Internet Theory has already started meta-analyzing itself.

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