ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2024 8:48 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:27:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Internet: Get a Life! :P
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018130/Castle_Break/ until 10/13/2024 @ 10 AM PDT (USA).
Urg, retro graphics and arcade gameplay. Not my thing at all.
But it's free! And it would make The Number go up.
I'm so torn.
Internet, tell me what to do!
William Shatner said that: https://boingboing.net/2020/10/06/the-snl-shatner-get-a-life-video.html ;)
I remember watching that live, back when SNL was still worth watching.
The decaying zombie of snl still shambles on apparently, but there's no
spark of life anymore.
Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2024 8:48 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:27:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Internet: Get a Life! :P
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018130/Castle_Break/ until 10/13/2024 @ 10 AM PDT (USA).
Urg, retro graphics and arcade gameplay. Not my thing at all.
But it's free! And it would make The Number go up.
I'm so torn.
Internet, tell me what to do!
William Shatner said that: https://boingboing.net/2020/10/06/the-snl-shatner-get-a-life-video.html ;)
I remember watching that live, back when SNL was still worth watching.
The decaying zombie of snl still shambles on apparently, but there's no
spark of life anymore.
It's very rare SNL is funny even with its cold openings. SNL is 50 (dang!) now.
Even its season premiere was weak. :(
Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2024 8:48 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:27:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Internet: Get a Life! :P
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018130/Castle_Break/ until 10/13/2024 @ 10 AM PDT (USA).
Urg, retro graphics and arcade gameplay. Not my thing at all.
But it's free! And it would make The Number go up.
I'm so torn.
Internet, tell me what to do!
William Shatner said that: https://boingboing.net/2020/10/06/the-snl-shatner-get-a-life-video.html ;)
I remember watching that live, back when SNL was still worth watching.
The decaying zombie of snl still shambles on apparently, but there's no
spark of life anymore.
It's very rare SNL is funny even with its cold openings. SNL is 50 (dang!) now.
Even its season premiere was weak. :(
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:34:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2024 8:48 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:27:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Internet: Get a Life! :P
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018130/Castle_Break/ until 10/13/2024 @ 10 AM PDT (USA).
Urg, retro graphics and arcade gameplay. Not my thing at all.
But it's free! And it would make The Number go up.
I'm so torn.
Internet, tell me what to do!
William Shatner said that: https://boingboing.net/2020/10/06/the-snl-shatner-get-a-life-video.html ;)
I remember watching that live, back when SNL was still worth watching.
The decaying zombie of snl still shambles on apparently, but there's no
spark of life anymore.
It's very rare SNL is funny even with its cold openings. SNL is 50 (dang!) now.
Even its season premiere was weak. :(
In fairness, a lot of the classic stuff was crap too. We (personally
and as a culture) tend only to remember... well, the stuff that's
memorable. Either the really good skits, or the really terrible ones.
But the 'just not funny' or 'heh, that was mildly amusing' stuff we
forget, and that makes it seem like older stuff was, on average,
funnier.
Another example of this Monty Python. A few years ago I made it a
point to watch the entire series; all the episodes, back to back. And
while there were a lot of really funny moments, they're all the ones
you'd expect: the Cheese Shoppe, the Lumberjack Song, the Dead Parrot,
etc. But there was an equal number of 'average' skits that were pretty >forgettable, and even more bits that just weren't very good.
Plus, tastes change and what I find funny doesn't necessarily match
what somebody born in 1990 or 2000 or 2010 finds humorous. I've talked
to a number of younger people who think the current SNL cast is
hilarious (albeit, with not quite the same cachet of the old troupe,
just because online personalities -who aren't quite as restrained by
to US broadcasting standards- can engage in wilder gags). And even I
have to admit that, at times, the current SNL cast can perform a
memorable skit.
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering
why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering
why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
On Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:34:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2024 8:48 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2024 23:27:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:Internet: Get a Life! :P
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1018130/Castle_Break/ until 10/13/2024 @ 10 AM PDT (USA).
Urg, retro graphics and arcade gameplay. Not my thing at all.
But it's free! And it would make The Number go up.
I'm so torn.
Internet, tell me what to do!
William Shatner said that: https://boingboing.net/2020/10/06/the-snl-shatner-get-a-life-video.html ;)
I remember watching that live, back when SNL was still worth watching.
The decaying zombie of snl still shambles on apparently, but there's no
spark of life anymore.
It's very rare SNL is funny even with its cold openings. SNL is 50 (dang!) now.
Even its season premiere was weak. :(
Part of what was cutting edge about SNL during the golden years is
that they could push the envelope of what was comedically possible
within the contstraints of allowable TV broadcasting.
But the Internet mostly removed censorship barriers, and even though
though the bar of censorship for mainstream TV has moved a bit with
changing times, it can't keep up with the rawness of content available elsewhere.
Where I think SNL really jumped the shark was when it seemed like in
almost every skit, cast and guests were going out of their way to
break character and crack up at everything. During the best days of
SNL, the cast was good enough at what they do that this happened
rarely and when it did it was a sincere moment instead of part of the
act.
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering
why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
I remember first watching Saturday Night Live a few years after it
first aired and already people were telling me that original cast was
much better. I beleived them too, since most of the original cast
where big name stars with movie careers by then. How could nobodies
like Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo compare with the likes of Dan Aykroyd
or Chevy Chase?
As I continued to watch and enjoy it, I kept hearing how previous seasons
and casts were better and how far downhill it had gone. Except now they
were talking about seasons and casts I had seen myself. While I could
agree such-and-such a sketch was a classic and so-and-so who left the
show was really funny, I was still enjoying the show.
By the time the 90's rolled around I realized people were just going
to continue saying the show had gone downhill and whatever season and
cast they first watched was the best. No one really had a viewpoint
where they could objectively compare the seasons. Even me who never
thought the show was bad couldn't really see where the show had it's inevitiable up and downs. Just too hard to objectively compare a show
you're watching today to a show you saw years ago.
When I heard people making similar complaints about The Simpsons I just ignored them. Somehow both perputually downhill shows have managed to survive even now when TV itself is in decline.
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:58:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering
why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
I remember first watching Saturday Night Live a few years after it
first aired and already people were telling me that original cast was
much better. I beleived them too, since most of the original cast
where big name stars with movie careers by then. How could nobodies
like Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo compare with the likes of Dan Aykroyd
or Chevy Chase?
As I continued to watch and enjoy it, I kept hearing how previous seasons >>> and casts were better and how far downhill it had gone. Except now they >>> were talking about seasons and casts I had seen myself. While I could
agree such-and-such a sketch was a classic and so-and-so who left the
show was really funny, I was still enjoying the show.
By the time the 90's rolled around I realized people were just going
to continue saying the show had gone downhill and whatever season and
cast they first watched was the best. No one really had a viewpoint
where they could objectively compare the seasons. Even me who never
thought the show was bad couldn't really see where the show had it's
inevitiable up and downs. Just too hard to objectively compare a show
you're watching today to a show you saw years ago.
When I heard people making similar complaints about The Simpsons I just
ignored them. Somehow both perputually downhill shows have managed to
survive even now when TV itself is in decline.
Like gaming. Older computer action games were better. /s ;)
They definitely weren't though.
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:29:52 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:58:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering
why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
I remember first watching Saturday Night Live a few years after it
first aired and already people were telling me that original cast was
much better. I beleived them too, since most of the original cast
where big name stars with movie careers by then. How could nobodies
like Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo compare with the likes of Dan Aykroyd >>>> or Chevy Chase?
As I continued to watch and enjoy it, I kept hearing how previous seasons >>>> and casts were better and how far downhill it had gone. Except now they >>>> were talking about seasons and casts I had seen myself. While I could >>>> agree such-and-such a sketch was a classic and so-and-so who left the
show was really funny, I was still enjoying the show.
By the time the 90's rolled around I realized people were just going
to continue saying the show had gone downhill and whatever season and
cast they first watched was the best. No one really had a viewpoint
where they could objectively compare the seasons. Even me who never
thought the show was bad couldn't really see where the show had it's
inevitiable up and downs. Just too hard to objectively compare a show >>>> you're watching today to a show you saw years ago.
When I heard people making similar complaints about The Simpsons I just >>>> ignored them. Somehow both perputually downhill shows have managed to >>>> survive even now when TV itself is in decline.
Like gaming. Older computer action games were better. /s ;)
They definitely weren't though.
But if you watch something like the 2022 Kids In The Hall skits, you
realize that even as old geezers, the overall talent of those guys
still holds up to their old material as long as they adjust their
content for modern times.
I'm not saying nobody young has talent, just that they're fewer and
farther between than they used to be and the level of talent across TV/Music/Film etc is generally lower especially adjusted for per
capita.. there are roughly twice as many people on the planet as there
were in 1980, yet a diminishing ratio of talented people rising to
stardom despite an exponentially higher number of media vehicles to potentially achieve it.
On 10/14/2024 5:29 PM, Rin Stowleigh wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:29:52 -0400, Spalls HurgensonI'd argue that the exponentially expanding media vehicles IS the
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:58:39 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
TL;DR: in twenty years, we (either personally or as a culture) be
looking back fondly on a lot of the current SNL skits and wondering >>>>>> why the 2050 cast is so unfunny ;-)
I remember first watching Saturday Night Live a few years after it
first aired and already people were telling me that original cast was >>>>> much better. I beleived them too, since most of the original cast
where big name stars with movie careers by then. How could nobodies >>>>> like Eddie Murphy and Joe Piscopo compare with the likes of Dan Aykroyd >>>>> or Chevy Chase?
As I continued to watch and enjoy it, I kept hearing how previous seasons >>>>> and casts were better and how far downhill it had gone. Except now they >>>>> were talking about seasons and casts I had seen myself. While I could >>>>> agree such-and-such a sketch was a classic and so-and-so who left the >>>>> show was really funny, I was still enjoying the show.
By the time the 90's rolled around I realized people were just going >>>>> to continue saying the show had gone downhill and whatever season and >>>>> cast they first watched was the best. No one really had a viewpoint >>>>> where they could objectively compare the seasons. Even me who never >>>>> thought the show was bad couldn't really see where the show had it's >>>>> inevitiable up and downs. Just too hard to objectively compare a show >>>>> you're watching today to a show you saw years ago.
When I heard people making similar complaints about The Simpsons I just >>>>> ignored them. Somehow both perputually downhill shows have managed to >>>>> survive even now when TV itself is in decline.
Like gaming. Older computer action games were better. /s ;)
They definitely weren't though.
But if you watch something like the 2022 Kids In The Hall skits, you
realize that even as old geezers, the overall talent of those guys
still holds up to their old material as long as they adjust their
content for modern times.
I'm not saying nobody young has talent, just that they're fewer and
farther between than they used to be and the level of talent across
TV/Music/Film etc is generally lower especially adjusted for per
capita.. there are roughly twice as many people on the planet as there
were in 1980, yet a diminishing ratio of talented people rising to
stardom despite an exponentially higher number of media vehicles to
potentially achieve it.
problem. If there are too many possible options, the audience attention
gets attenuated too far for any one to get enough to rise to "stardom".
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