Ubisoft today announced its "Ubisoft+ Classic" program. To quote their >announcement: "Ubisoft+ Classics is a curated library of classic games
from Ubisoft's vast catalog that includes Assassin's Creed Valhalla,
Far Cry 6, Rainbow Six Siege, and Watch Dogs Legion, among many
others". >https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/tQwBn5FiD1qSj7gFYSGCN/ubisoft-classics-upcoming-releases-and-old-favorites
Which just makes you wonder: is the plan to get people to buy games,
then cancel the online services those games depend on, then get them
to buy (well, rent, since Ubisoft+ is a subscription service) the
games again as part of their "Classics" line?
It's not quite what they're doing right now (as far as I can tell,
"Classics" is just a selection of games included in the base Ubisoft+ >subscription... but I wouldn't put such deviousness above them.
It just seems bad timing for a company already mired in controversy
about making its older games inaccessible to paying customers. "Oh,
but they're still here if you pay more for our streaming service"
isn't good optics when literal laws are being crafted because of your >greediness.
Then again, the Guilletmot family is desperate to make it look like
their company is bringing in new revenue, so I guess from their point
of view it's perfect timing. "Look, investors, at all this new money
we're bringing in. Please don't kick us out of our majority position!"
;-)
Side note: there's an amusing bug on Ubisoft Classic's web page. I
forgot how I got there, but at one point there's a page and all it
says is:
"Ubisoft Store advantages"
and then
"Null"
https://store.ubisoft.com/us/ubisoftplus-classics/5ebe5e920d253c3638a9521b.html?lang=default
(don't know how long it will last before they fix it, so if you wanna
see it, visit sooner rather than later. Or gaze upon the screenshot I
made at https://imgur.com/a/0R3LCvA )
(Pedant corner: And yes, I know that null is usually a sign the
database query was badly crafted and whatever was supposed to fill out
that page didn't make it over. But the way the two bits of text line
up is still funny)
On 10/16/2024 1:08 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 10/16/2024 2:41 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Ubisoft today announced its "Ubisoft+ Classic" program. To quote their
announcement: "Ubisoft+ Classics is a curated library of classic games
from Ubisoft's vast catalog that includes Assassin's Creed Valhalla,
Far Cry 6, Rainbow Six Siege, and Watch Dogs Legion, among many
others".
Assassin's Creed Valhalla and Far Cry 6 are classics now?
That was my thought. Valhalla's only 4 years old, and FC6 is 3.
I didn't think you could be a classic until at least a decade. I'd
probably go generation which is 20 years. I suppose if you count
console generations it could be around 7 years.
Ubisoft today announced its "Ubisoft+ Classic" program. To quote their announcement: "Ubisoft+ Classics is a curated library of classic games
from Ubisoft's vast catalog that includes Assassin's Creed Valhalla,
Far Cry 6, Rainbow Six Siege, and Watch Dogs Legion, among many
others". https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/tQwBn5FiD1qSj7gFYSGCN/ubisoft-classics-upcoming-releases-and-old-favorites
Which just makes you wonder: is the plan to get people to buy games,
then cancel the online services those games depend on, then get them
to buy (well, rent, since Ubisoft+ is a subscription service) the
games again as part of their "Classics" line?
It's not quite what they're doing right now (as far as I can tell,
"Classics" is just a selection of games included in the base Ubisoft+ subscription... but I wouldn't put such deviousness above them.
It just seems bad timing for a company already mired in controversy
about making its older games inaccessible to paying customers. "Oh,
but they're still here if you pay more for our streaming service"
isn't good optics when literal laws are being crafted because of your greediness.
Then again, the Guilletmot family is desperate to make it look like
their company is bringing in new revenue, so I guess from their point
of view it's perfect timing. "Look, investors, at all this new money
we're bringing in. Please don't kick us out of our majority position!"
;-)
Side note: there's an amusing bug on Ubisoft Classic's web page. I
forgot how I got there, but at one point there's a page and all it
says is:
"Ubisoft Store advantages"
and then
"Null"
https://store.ubisoft.com/us/ubisoftplus-classics/5ebe5e920d253c3638a9521b.html?lang=default
(don't know how long it will last before they fix it, so if you wanna
see it, visit sooner rather than later. Or gaze upon the screenshot I
made at https://imgur.com/a/0R3LCvA )
(Pedant corner: And yes, I know that null is usually a sign the
database query was badly crafted and whatever was supposed to fill out
that page didn't make it over. But the way the two bits of text line
up is still funny)
On 10/16/2024 2:41 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
Ubisoft today announced its "Ubisoft+ Classic" program. To quote their
announcement: "Ubisoft+ Classics is a curated library of classic games
from Ubisoft's vast catalog that includes Assassin's Creed Valhalla,
Far Cry 6, Rainbow Six Siege, and Watch Dogs Legion, among many
others".
Assassin's Creed Valhalla and Far Cry 6 are classics now?
On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 18:40:07 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 00:41 this Wednesday (GMT):
Ubisoft today announced its "Ubisoft+ Classic" program. To quote their
announcement: "Ubisoft+ Classics is a curated library of classic games
from Ubisoft's vast catalog that includes Assassin's Creed Valhalla,
Far Cry 6, Rainbow Six Siege, and Watch Dogs Legion, among many
others".
https://news.ubisoft.com/en-us/article/tQwBn5FiD1qSj7gFYSGCN/ubisoft-classics-upcoming-releases-and-old-favorites
Which just makes you wonder: is the plan to get people to buy games,
then cancel the online services those games depend on, then get them
to buy (well, rent, since Ubisoft+ is a subscription service) the
games again as part of their "Classics" line?
It's not quite what they're doing right now (as far as I can tell,
"Classics" is just a selection of games included in the base Ubisoft+
subscription... but I wouldn't put such deviousness above them.
Seems very on brand for them. It would be extra funny if they cancelled
the "classics" versions too.
It just seems bad timing for a company already mired in controversy
about making its older games inaccessible to paying customers. "Oh,
but they're still here if you pay more for our streaming service"
isn't good optics when literal laws are being crafted because of your
greediness.
Then again, the Guilletmot family is desperate to make it look like
their company is bringing in new revenue, so I guess from their point
of view it's perfect timing. "Look, investors, at all this new money
we're bringing in. Please don't kick us out of our majority position!"
;-)
Side note: there's an amusing bug on Ubisoft Classic's web page. I
forgot how I got there, but at one point there's a page and all it
says is:
"Ubisoft Store advantages"
and then
"Null"
Finally, some real honesty!
https://store.ubisoft.com/us/ubisoftplus-classics/5ebe5e920d253c3638a9521b.html?lang=default
(don't know how long it will last before they fix it, so if you wanna
see it, visit sooner rather than later. Or gaze upon the screenshot I
made at https://imgur.com/a/0R3LCvA )
(Pedant corner: And yes, I know that null is usually a sign the
database query was badly crafted and whatever was supposed to fill out
that page didn't make it over. But the way the two bits of text line
up is still funny)
About as well programmed as their games :>
I've never really had problems with the programming of Ubisoft games.
I've found them to be reasonably good in that regard. Oh, I'm sure
there are some bugs here and there --given the complexity of modern
titles, it's only to be expected-- but they don't stand out to me as a company infamous for its buggy products <cough cough Bethesda cough>.
I _do_ have a problem with their game _design_; the repetitive nature
of their open worlds, filled with grind, a lack of innovation between
titles, and the terrible writing and uninspired setting. Oh, and the
stupid live-service nonsense too.
But the programming is fine. ;-)
I've never really had problems with the programming of Ubisoft games.
I've found them to be reasonably good in that regard. Oh, I'm sure
there are some bugs here and there --given the complexity of modern
titles, it's only to be expected-- but they don't stand out to me as a company infamous for its buggy products <cough cough Bethesda cough>.
I_do_ have a problem with their game_design_; the repetitive nature
of their open worlds, filled with grind, a lack of innovation between
titles, and the terrible writing and uninspired setting. Oh, and the
stupid live-service nonsense too.
But the programming is fine. 😉
On Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:15:03 +0100, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:
On 22/10/2024 15:23, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
I've never really had problems with the programming of Ubisoft games.
I've found them to be reasonably good in that regard. Oh, I'm sure
there are some bugs here and there --given the complexity of modern
titles, it's only to be expected-- but they don't stand out to me as a
company infamous for its buggy products <cough cough Bethesda cough>.
I_do_ have a problem with their game_design_; the repetitive nature
of their open worlds, filled with grind, a lack of innovation between
titles, and the terrible writing and uninspired setting. Oh, and the
stupid live-service nonsense too.
But the programming is fine. ?
I've not played Starfield but some of the comments I've read say that it
has bugs that you can trace back to FO:3. My favourites are my horse
levitating across water to get back to the city (Oblivion) and talking
to a clan elder with no head (Skyrim).
That's Bethesda, not Ubisoft though.
I'm not saying Ubisoft games don't have bugs (I'm sure I'd be shouted
down with hundreds of examples of people complaining about some glitch
or other in their many games), just that overall they seem to fall
within a certain 'acceptable tolerance'.
Other companies... not so much. As you pointed out, Bethesda's
insistence on using the creaky Gamebryo/Creation engine means that -
despite end-users finding and fixing the same bugs repeatedly in
fan-made patches- they are _still_ appearing in Bethesda's newest
games. That's not just sloppy programming; that's an active disdain
for its users by refusing to do even minimal quality control.
So while I've a lot of unhappiness with Ubisoft, that is one fault I
can't really level at them.
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