• Can static electricity kill your mouse?

    From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 12 09:12:58 2025
    I googled this and I am getting different opinions on this so I
    thought I would ask here.

    I got up from my computer to just take a break. I sat back down five
    or so minutes later. I put my hand on my mouse and I got a static
    shock. That itself, did not surprise me. The air in my house is very
    dry. What did surprise me is that my mouse died when that happened.
    The port it connects to is fine. I tested it. The mouse failed on
    three different computers. Another mouse works fine on that same port.

    So my question is, did a simple static discharge kill my mouse or was something else at play here? My mouse, is at the very least, five
    years old.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Wed Feb 12 16:02:43 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 15:27:34 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Either way, it's not something I'd worry about. If it WERE static >electricity, it's probably once-in-a-million event and not anything
    I'd worry about happening soon again. Especially not regarding a
    device you can replace for a few bucks.

    I was really thinking of this doing harm to my PC. I was worried the
    port was dead. But the port and my PC are fine.

    Thank you for replying Spalls.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Thu Feb 13 15:12:37 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's
    a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static
    electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a
    wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired
    mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its
    innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 15:10:34 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 10:32:21 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Seconded. More likely would be something failing internally - a
    capacitor perhaps - and shocking you, though again through the plastic
    is pretty unlikely (unless you happen to have a shiny metallic mouse.)
    As it's dead you could always open it up for curiosity's sake and see if >there's anything loose or burned.

    I should have done that. Unfortunately, I already threw it away. It's
    gone now.

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 20:35:39 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson ><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's
    a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static
    electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a
    wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired
    mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its
    innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just
    get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably
    won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online
    games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com on Thu Feb 13 20:38:14 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson >><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's
    a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static
    electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a >>>wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired >>>mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its
    innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just
    get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably
    won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online
    games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Rin Stowleigh on Fri Feb 14 03:28:11 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:38:14 -0500, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson >>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's
    a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static >>>>electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a >>>>wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired >>>>mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its >>>>innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just
    get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably
    won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online >>games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

    X reports this mouse as "Logitech Gaming Mouse G600" -- it's the MMO
    mouse with a keyboard on the side.

    (I use the MMO mouse keyboard for flipping between tools on my
    spacesuits in Odyssey.)

    It's a good mouse. Tracks great on an all-black pad, as well as
    directly on my wooden desk. Wired, because I don't like fiddling
    with the battery management of wireless.

    --
    -Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 21:21:35 2025
    On Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:12:58 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    I googled this and I am getting different opinions on this so I
    thought I would ask here.

    I got up from my computer to just take a break. I sat back down five
    or so minutes later. I put my hand on my mouse and I got a static
    shock. That itself, did not surprise me. The air in my house is very
    dry. What did surprise me is that my mouse died when that happened.
    The port it connects to is fine. I tested it. The mouse failed on
    three different computers. Another mouse works fine on that same port.

    So my question is, did a simple static discharge kill my mouse or was >something else at play here? My mouse, is at the very least, five
    years old.

    *--

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest
    model, the one that gets the best reviews. Everytime I touched it
    would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off. Corsair mousepad.

    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here)
    suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet. I think it is from
    China. I bought it from Amazon. Let me know if you need the model.
    Heck, let me look it up. Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great! The shocks haven't totally gone away but it
    is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder
    Pro.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1

    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Fri Feb 14 09:04:33 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 17:36:46 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    Awww, opportunity lost. Then again, it's just a mouse and you likely
    wouldn't have seen anything significant anyway (although maybe you
    could have salvaged some parts if you intend to buy an identical
    replacement and that one goes bad ;-)

    I kept the weights and the back plate as I do have another one. If
    this one fails in the same way, I will pull it apart and see if I can
    find anything inside.

    Well, not a $5 Temu-special, anyway. That Logitechs aren't really
    quality products. They're middle-of-the-road devices, and I'd bet 40%
    of the cost of the G502 is due to its styling and weights, 30% of it
    is "gaming mouse mark-up" and the rest is just ordinary Logitech mouse
    parts.

    I like the way it feels in my hand. I do use all of the buttons as
    well depending on what game I am playing. I am just used to it I
    guess.

    Which, again, is not to be dismissive of your choice or Logitech
    itself. Logitech is pretty much my brand-of-choice for every mouse I
    use. They're _fine_ and can last a good while. But I don't associate
    the brand with high-quality electronics or design, so one of 'em just
    up and dying for no apparent reason seems totally on-brand to me ;-)

    I used the mouse for at least 5 years. For a $50 or so mouse, that is acceptable to me.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com on Fri Feb 14 09:16:46 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just
    get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably
    won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online
    games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Thank you Rin but guess what? I have a G502 Hero arriving on Monday
    from Amazon. And yes, I paid $44 for it. As soon as my last mouse
    died, I went on Amazon and ultimately decided on just getting another
    G502. I am using another Proteus Spectrum G502 right now but I will be switching to the HERO as soon as it arrives. I always have a second
    mouse around just for situations like this.

    The Proteus Spectrum has a 12,000 DPI sensor. The new G502 has a
    25,000 DPI sensor that they call the HERO sensor. This is the only
    difference between the old G502 and the new one that I am aware of.

    I also threw a Redragon M612 Predator RGB mouse into my order because
    it was cheap at just $13.79, has good reviews, and it has the same
    eleven buttons that the G502 has. I was just curious about it. But I
    am sure I will prefer the G502 HERO.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.co on Fri Feb 14 09:20:38 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:21:35 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest
    model, the one that gets the best reviews. Everytime I touched it
    would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off. Corsair mousepad.

    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here) >suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet. I think it is from
    China. I bought it from Amazon. Let me know if you need the model.
    Heck, let me look it up. Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great! The shocks haven't totally gone away but it
    is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder
    Pro.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1

    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

    Thank you PW. I bookmarked your link. For now, I am going to stop
    worrying about it. I was thinking of adding a humidifier to my room.
    It *might* help my electronics but it will definitely help me. The air
    is very dry in here which is what is causing the electrical shocks I
    think.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com on Fri Feb 14 09:17:21 2025
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:38:14 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

    I knew what you meant.

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  • From Dimensional Traveler@21:1/5 to vallor on Fri Feb 14 07:39:38 2025
    On 2/13/2025 7:28 PM, vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:38:14 -0500, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's >>>>> a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static
    electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a
    wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired >>>>> mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its
    innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just
    get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably
    won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online
    games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

    X reports this mouse as "Logitech Gaming Mouse G600" -- it's the MMO
    mouse with a keyboard on the side.

    "A mouse with a keyboard on the side."

    ...

    I think someone has lost the point somewhere along the line there....

    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Sat Feb 15 10:30:53 2025
    On 14/02/2025 14:04, Mike S. wrote:
    I like the way it feels in my hand. I do use all of the buttons as
    well depending on what game I am playing. I am just used to it I
    guess.

    That's the main reason that I replaced my old MX518 with the newer MX518 Legendary (the only real difference is it has the new HERO sensor)
    version. It's quite expensive* for what you get but I do like the feel
    of them. I did think about getting one with more buttons but then
    thought well I never used the extra two I have for games anyway so why
    bother.

    *They now sell for some pretty silly prices compared to when I got mine
    soon after release. Why on earth anyone would buy one at £150 or even
    £200, who knows.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to JAB on Sat Feb 15 09:21:37 2025
    On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:30:53 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    That's the main reason that I replaced my old MX518 with the newer MX518 >Legendary (the only real difference is it has the new HERO sensor)
    version. It's quite expensive* for what you get but I do like the feel
    of them. I did think about getting one with more buttons but then
    thought well I never used the extra two I have for games anyway so why >bother.

    I remember the MX518. I was using one before I switched to something
    else. I think the reason I stopped using it was because I do tend to
    use most of the buttons and it didn't have enough for me anymore.

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 09:30:25 2025
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 13:24:30 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Ideal humidity for electronics is at 50% (which I find feels a bit damp
    to me from the few clean-rooms I've been in, and I also find that 50%
    feels odd.)

    Right now it is 16% humidity in my house. On any of my carpeted
    floors, which includes where my computer is, I keep getting static
    shocks and it is really starting to annoy me.

    I did already google this, and yes, 50-55% is ideal for electronics as
    that is supposed to eliminate static shocking at that point. I am
    going to get a humidifier and see if that does anything. If that
    fails, I will try PW's suggestion. Whatever it takes.

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  • From Rin Stowleigh@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 19:10:38 2025
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 03:28:11 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:38:14 -0500, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson >>>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired, there's >>>>>a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of static >>>>>electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just because a >>>>>wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, but a wired >>>>>mouse has an electrically conductive lead going straight to its >>>>>innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I >>>would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or just >>>get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction probably >>>won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online >>>games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap >>>them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form >>>factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

    X reports this mouse as "Logitech Gaming Mouse G600" -- it's the MMO
    mouse with a keyboard on the side.

    (I use the MMO mouse keyboard for flipping between tools on my
    spacesuits in Odyssey.)

    It's a good mouse. Tracks great on an all-black pad, as well as
    directly on my wooden desk. Wired, because I don't like fiddling
    with the battery management of wireless.

    For a while I was using a Razer Naga Hex which (named appropriately)
    had exactly 6 buttons on the side that had a near-perfect mechanical
    switch feel to them. There was something about the advantage that
    mouse gave in competitive online shooters that was so magical, I
    realized (and probably wrote about it here if any usenet historians
    care) that the habits I was forming around it were probably not going
    to work out well for me in the long term. Because it was changing the
    way I set up custom keybinds, and I knew all it would take was a
    change in product line to disrupt the investment of playing a certain
    way. Granted, a way that does not matter in single player games at
    all as long as you can adapt, but if competition is in your blood and
    part of the reason you play in the first place, it kind of does matter
    when your play style becomes dependent on the whim of marketing
    douchebags of game accessory companies. They are known to implement
    "change for the sake of change" to justify their own existence and
    prioritize that over what customers actually want.

    So two things happened (prediction #1 came true and they changed the
    design with the Naga Hex V2... wasn't interested in that at all). But
    even before that I had two of these mice fail in less than 3 years,
    and the nature of the failure was highly suspect (i.e. not faulty
    hardware as much as planned obsolescence resulting from Razer software
    update).

    So I sort of conceded Razer is simply a scam company that uses
    software updates to disable their products in hopes the customer will
    buy more.

    Logitech has been much better to me over the long run. They don't
    have a product that specifically matches the thumb button layout of
    the original Naga Hex, but it's fine because I've just moved on to a
    more future proof solution that includes foot pedals to provide some
    of the same functionality I used to get from simultaneous thumb
    presses of the old Naga Hex layout.

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 18:49:23 2025
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 09:20:38 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:21:35 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest >>model, the one that gets the best reviews. Everytime I touched it
    would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off. Corsair mousepad.

    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here) >>suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet. I think it is from
    China. I bought it from Amazon. Let me know if you need the model.
    Heck, let me look it up. Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great! The shocks haven't totally gone away but it
    is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder
    Pro.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1

    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

    Thank you PW. I bookmarked your link. For now, I am going to stop
    worrying about it. I was thinking of adding a humidifier to my room.
    It *might* help my electronics but it will definitely help me. The air
    is very dry in here which is what is causing the electrical shocks I
    think.

    *--

    I live in Montana. We do not have humidity so it is dry here too.

    -pw

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 15 18:53:45 2025
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 13:24:30 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/14/2025 6:20 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:21:35 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest
    model, the one that gets the best reviews. Everytime I touched it
    would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off. Corsair mousepad.

    Razor went down the crapper years ago. I won't touch them any more.
    First mouse from then was great, but the second I couldn't get an
    account set up so I could download and get the software to program it
    which meant it was little better than a standard $5 mouse, and it died
    after 6 months.

    The 502 hero I have now is fine, but I find the extra buttons a bit hard
    to use and software leaves a bit to be desired. A bit difficult to set up.

    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here)
    suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet. I think it is from
    China. I bought it from Amazon. Let me know if you need the model.
    Heck, let me look it up. Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great! The shocks haven't totally gone away but it
    is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder
    Pro.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1

    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

    Thank you PW. I bookmarked your link. For now, I am going to stop
    worrying about it. I was thinking of adding a humidifier to my room.
    It *might* help my electronics but it will definitely help me. The air
    is very dry in here which is what is causing the electrical shocks I
    think.

    Ideal humidity for electronics is at 50% (which I find feels a bit damp
    to me from the few clean-rooms I've been in, and I also find that 50%
    feels odd.)


    I have humidors in my guitars. Sponges in a plastic case that I put
    between the strings and the sound hole.

    The DeathAdder Pro basically has no buttons besides the very basic.
    They can be programmed but why do I want to mess aroung with the LMB,
    RMB and two back/forth broser buttons? And to adjust the sensitivity,
    that button is on the bottom of the mouse!

    What do you use Justisaur? Maybe I will go back to Corsair or
    Logitech.

    -pw

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to Dimensional Traveler on Mon Feb 17 04:45:42 2025
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 07:39:38 -0800, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

    On 2/13/2025 7:28 PM, vallor wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:38:14 -0500, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 20:35:39 -0500, Rin Stowleigh
    <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 15:12:37 -0500, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 14:16:56 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
    <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    You didn't specify if it was wired or wireless. If its wired,
    there's a more of possibility (though still improbably low) of
    static electricity hurting the mouse than if its wireless, just
    because a wireless mouse is pretty much all plastic on the outside, >>>>>> but a wired mouse has an electrically conductive lead going
    straight to its innards.

    It was a wired mouse. A Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum to be exact.

    Not even sure of the differences between the two, but if I were you I
    would just pick up a G502 Hero since they seem to be pretty much the
    same thing.. about $44 on Amazon right now. The one I'm using right
    now is almost 3 years old and everything about it seems to be still
    going strong... I may be a little hard on them due to online
    shooters,
    so the plastic skates on the bottom tend to either erode, peel or
    just get tiny micro scratches that create friction (the friction
    probably won't matter as much if you're not into competitive online
    games)...literally just replaced mine a few weeks ago but thats like
    $8 or so for cheap plastic parts readily available and 5 mins to swap
    them out, so no complaints here and if I had to buy another one right
    now I would not stray outside the G502 line because I like the form
    factor including the thumb tray (also reduces drag).

    Guess I should proofread before hitting send? Anyway meant to say
    replaced the skates for a few dollars, not entire mouse, in case that
    didn't read as intended.

    X reports this mouse as "Logitech Gaming Mouse G600" -- it's the MMO
    mouse with a keyboard on the side.

    "A mouse with a keyboard on the side."

    ...

    I think someone has lost the point somewhere along the line there....

    Well, not a _full_ keyboard -- it's a keypad with 12 buttons.

    But honestly, for what I use it for, I could probably due with
    just a couple of extra buttons. It's nice to have the flexibility,
    though...

    --
    -Scott System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
    OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc3 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
    "My modem isn't slow - it's "baudily challenged!""

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  • From JAB@21:1/5 to Mike S. on Mon Feb 17 09:40:23 2025
    On 15/02/2025 14:21, Mike S. wrote:
    On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 10:30:53 +0000, JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote:

    That's the main reason that I replaced my old MX518 with the newer MX518
    Legendary (the only real difference is it has the new HERO sensor)
    version. It's quite expensive* for what you get but I do like the feel
    of them. I did think about getting one with more buttons but then
    thought well I never used the extra two I have for games anyway so why
    bother.

    I remember the MX518. I was using one before I switched to something
    else. I think the reason I stopped using it was because I do tend to
    use most of the buttons and it didn't have enough for me anymore.

    One of the nice things I've found about getting old is that my purchases
    have become far more about what I actually need and not just because I
    can. My younger self got a Gameboy Advanced pretty much on a whim and
    I've only ever played it maybe three hours. I also managed to buy
    another portable Minidisc player even though my current one was less
    than six months old.

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 17 21:12:00 2025
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:21:09 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/15/2025 5:53 PM, PW wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 13:24:30 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/14/2025 6:20 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:21:35 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest >>>>> model, the one that gets the best reviews. Everytime I touched it
    would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off. Corsair mousepad.

    Razor went down the crapper years ago. I won't touch them any more.
    First mouse from then was great, but the second I couldn't get an
    account set up so I could download and get the software to program it
    which meant it was little better than a standard $5 mouse, and it died
    after 6 months.

    The 502 hero I have now is fine, but I find the extra buttons a bit hard >>> to use and software leaves a bit to be desired. A bit difficult to set up. >>>
    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here) >>>>> suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet. I think it is from
    China. I bought it from Amazon. Let me know if you need the model. >>>>> Heck, let me look it up. Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great! The shocks haven't totally gone away but it >>>>> is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder >>>>> Pro.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1

    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

    Thank you PW. I bookmarked your link. For now, I am going to stop
    worrying about it. I was thinking of adding a humidifier to my room.
    It *might* help my electronics but it will definitely help me. The air >>>> is very dry in here which is what is causing the electrical shocks I
    think.

    Ideal humidity for electronics is at 50% (which I find feels a bit damp
    to me from the few clean-rooms I've been in, and I also find that 50%
    feels odd.)


    I have humidors in my guitars. Sponges in a plastic case that I put
    between the strings and the sound hole.

    The DeathAdder Pro basically has no buttons besides the very basic.
    They can be programmed but why do I want to mess aroung with the LMB,
    RMB and two back/forth broser buttons? And to adjust the sensitivity,
    that button is on the bottom of the mouse!

    What do you use Justisaur? Maybe I will go back to Corsair or
    Logitech.

    I've got the logitech hero G502. It's o.k. It's in no way equal to my
    old Razor mouse The extra buttons are a bit hard to actually use. The >software for setting up the buttons to do stuff is annoying to deal with
    too.

    Me too, and I don't use the weights. I am going to go back to it.

    -pw

    I don't understand why the hell you would want weights in them either, I >immediately took them out and threw them away after playing for about a
    half hour and started getting fatigued. I don't want lights on my mouse >either.

    I might try a redragon (is that red-ragon, re-dragon or red-rage-on?) as
    I got a keyboard after my last crapped out, which is pretty good, though
    I hate having to set up the lights any time the power goes out as
    there's no software to save the settings (or if so it loses them and
    there's no way to reload them after a power outage.) Or maybe I just
    need a battery backup.

    Razor will be never again after they screwed me over with having no way
    to set up an account, not responding to my emails, which is required.
    get their software to configure my last mouse and it dying within 6
    months.

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  • From PW@21:1/5 to j63480576@gmail.com on Tue Feb 18 21:31:11 2025
    On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 13:45:11 -0600, Tahitian pearl
    <j63480576@gmail.com> wrote:

    Justisaur wrote:
    On 2/15/2025 5:53 PM, PW wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 13:24:30 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On 2/14/2025 6:20 AM, Mike S. wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 21:21:35 -0700, PW
    <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:

    This was happening all the time with a new Razor Deathadder Pro latest >>>>>> model, the one that gets the best reviews.  Everytime I touched it >>>>>> would zap and and turn my Alienware monitor off.  Corsair mousepad.

    Razor went down the crapper years ago.  I won't touch them any more.
    First mouse from then was great, but the second I couldn't get an
    account set up so I could download and get the software to program it
    which meant it was little better than a standard $5 mouse, and it died >>>> after 6 months.

    The 502 hero I have now is fine, but I find the extra buttons a bit hard >>>> to use and software leaves a bit to be desired.  A bit difficult to
    set up.

    The owner of my local Radio Shack (yes, very lucky to have one here) >>>>>> suggested a mouspad that plugs into an outlet.  I think it is from >>>>>> China.  I bought it from Amazon.  Let me know if you need the model. >>>>>> Heck, let me look it up.  Hang on :-)

    Any way, it works great!  The shocks haven't totally gone away but it >>>>>> is not affecting my monitor.

    Oh, I switched back to a corsair mouse before using the grounded
    mousepad and the shocking went away. Only happens with the Deathadder >>>>>> Pro.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0935Y9C8J?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5&th=1


    I have it under my hard Corsair mouse pad by the way.
    Description just says Grounding Mouse pad

    -pw

    Thank you PW. I bookmarked your link. For now, I am going to stop
    worrying about it. I was thinking of adding a humidifier to my room. >>>>> It *might* help my electronics but it will definitely help me. The air >>>>> is very dry in here which is what is causing the electrical shocks I >>>>> think.

    Ideal humidity for electronics is at 50% (which I find feels a bit damp >>>> to me from the few clean-rooms I've been in, and I also find that 50%
    feels odd.)


    I have humidors in my guitars.  Sponges in a plastic case that I put
    between the strings and the sound hole.

    The DeathAdder Pro basically has no buttons besides the very basic.
    They can be programmed but why do I want to mess aroung with the LMB,
    RMB and two back/forth broser buttons?  And to adjust the sensitivity,
    that button is on the bottom of the mouse!

    What do you use Justisaur?  Maybe I will go back to Corsair or
    Logitech.

    I've got the logitech hero G502.  It's o.k. It's in no way equal to my
    old Razor mouse The extra buttons are a bit hard to actually use.  The
    software for setting up the buttons to do stuff is annoying to deal with
    too.

    I don't understand why the hell you would want weights in them either, I
    immediately took them out and threw them away after playing for about a
    half hour and started getting fatigued. I don't want lights on my mouse
    either.

    I might try a redragon (is that red-ragon, re-dragon or red-rage-on?) as
    I got a keyboard after my last crapped out, which is pretty good, though
    I hate having to set up the lights any time the power goes out as
    there's no software to save the settings (or if so it loses them and
    there's no way to reload them after a power outage.)  Or maybe I just
    need a battery backup.

    Razor will be never again after they screwed me over with having no way
    to set up an account, not responding to my emails, which is required.
    get their software to configure my last mouse and it dying within 6 months. >>
    I can't get a top mouse because one of my requirements is "silent." It
    tends to marginalize the choice, and there are few Logitech offerings
    that satisfy. I often have to go with brands I've never heard of.

    *--

    I think Corsair might have a model or twoo. I looked the other day at
    theri website. Saw a simple one with no lights and very light weight.

    -pw

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  • From Mike S.@21:1/5 to spallshurgenson@gmail.com on Sat Feb 22 13:55:23 2025
    On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 10:58:36 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

    I fully anticipate that MikeS will soon tell us that _this_ is the
    mouse he picked as a replacement.

    If I didn't already have reed diffusers..... I'd consider it.

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