On Tue, 20 May 2025 20:15:20 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

But at the same time, the public at large is --especially now--
extremely sensitive to price hikes, and video games are unnecessary
luxuries that many think they can cut back on purchasing.

Not only that, but it's an incredibly saturated market, where there's
not a lot being done that hasn't been seen before. Advancements in
game engines and tools plateaued, so with everyone becoming proficient
with the same development tools and ending up with very similar
results, a lot of the creative edge that was involved in game
development starting from arcades through maybe the early 2000s is
gone.

Some occasional gems emerge now and then, and there are definitely
some entertaining games still being produced. Just like there is
still good music being produced -- it's just a lot harder to find than
it used to be due to the side effects of a saturated market.

So, to paritipate and still enjoy it you have to become a hunter of
diamonds in the rough.

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On 21/05/2025 01:15, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

I've said it before, but I grudgingly agree that video games probably
should be priced more.* The $60USD 'standard price' for AAA games is historically low if you take inflation into account, even as the games themselves are becoming ever more larger and more complex.**

I think just looking at inflation is a rather blunt tool as it doesn't
take into account factors such as price anchoring, the number of games
being released, all those freebies and the number of copies sold.

I'd probably also add that the triple-A publishers obviously do think
there's a decent profit to be made even with the increased development
costs.

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.

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On Tue, 20 May 2025 20:15:20 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

** but an equally important question that never seems to be asked is:
do games NEED to be that large?

With 4k textures, so you can play in slightly less than 4k, with a
graphics card that could make buttered popcorn while pushing 8+ million
pixels a frame?

Hell YES they have to be that large. Games haven't actually gotten much
bigger from a play standpoint, but they are awfully *large*.

Every GB costs a pretty penny, or so they tell me. If you measure your
price in $/GB, prices are going down!

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On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:07:20 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:

On 21/05/2025 01:15, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

I've said it before, but I grudgingly agree that video games probably
should be priced more.* The $60USD 'standard price' for AAA games is
historically low if you take inflation into account, even as the games
themselves are becoming ever more larger and more complex.**

I think just looking at inflation is a rather blunt tool as it doesn't
take into account factors such as price anchoring, the number of games
being released, all those freebies and the number of copies sold.

I'd probably also add that the triple-A publishers obviously do think
there's a decent profit to be made even with the increased development
costs.

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

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On Wed, 21 May 2025 06:27:45 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Justisaur wrote:

I am in the 'not interested' demographic. I could afford an $80 but
only if it was something I was very interested in. I'll wait until a
big sale if I even ever get enough interest. If the big sale never
happens, oh well.

I remember edible crows flying around here for "Duke Nukem Forever" and
its inevitable drop to the low, low price of $4.99.

I expect similar here (75% off). Only a first-class idiot would pay list
for this game. Even the threat of empty lobbies doesn't matter, because
if the lobbies are empty by the time the lower price-points come around,
the game was an abject failure in the first place. Borderlands co-op is
not the same hot market as competitive FPS. It's a slow burn as opposed
to a flash-in-the-pan.

This is marketing for morons 101. You need a firm base of players and a
long tail. We should all point to the moron and laugh at him, but he has
a lot of money so the joke is on us.

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On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:12:00 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

But a smaller game world can provide as intense an experience. It
costs significantly less too. And since the customary excuse AAA
studios make for their live-service nonsense is that games are too
expensive to develop without that added revenue, maybe they should
consider trimming back their games before reaching into our wallets.

Coccoon comes to mind. Gris as well. I quite enjoyed both. Cave Story is
also excellent, and free. They take less than 10 hours to finish.

As for the 120 hr game... To me, it's a myth. There's usually all sorts
of gimmickry to extend game play, much like the 8-bit extended play we've
been talking about recently.
`````````````````

To wit:

"Oh, you ate that pie? now you have to replay the entire game up to this point." "Didn't do the right thing with the cheese sandwich? Ha!" "Didn't
pixel hunt that glowing green crystal? Now you're stuck and you have no
idea why. Wander around for hours please."

In truth, I quite enjoyed the cheese sandwich because it required me to
a) remember the point in the game where the problem began and make the connection and, b) Find a way to deal with it with limited early game resources. It totally refreshed the content for me and was humorous to
boot. But Infocom games actually replay quite quickly. Sierra games,
otoh... walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk walk oh ffs. They
borrowed the mechanic from text and it was wholly inappropriate to the
medium. And hiding critical items is sadistic. Sierra was never my bag.

`````````````````

The only recent game I can think of that offers 120 hours of actual game
play is Baldur's Gate III. That's a large game. 145GB large.

Procedurally generated open world grinds have 30 hours of real gameplay,
IMO. Elite: Dangerous for instance. Or TES. Some people get unlimited
play out of that, I get about 30-40 hours and then I'm bored. Often to
the exclusion of the story quest. Which is plenty. But it's not because
the game is actually full of content. Skyrim's map is pretty tiny, for instance, and E:Dangerous is 90% empty space.

Civ, otoh, I play and play and play. I have over a thousand hours in Civ
V (with considerable help from my wife). I have 100 in Civ VI, on my own.
I never counted the hours in earlier versions. But that's a different experience. You can get a lot of mileage out of something like "Monopoly"
or "Parcheesi." A game where your approach to random starts is more
important than actual content gives many hours to the player. It's like
you're procedurally generating the game yourself.

So "large" games are mostly a gimmick to me. Nobody puts the actual time
in. I was shocked at the 15 hour, story driven single-player FPS when it
first happened, but it really is the sweet spot, as demonstrated by the original Half Life. FarCry is not the sweet spot, unless you really like ambushing things over and over again only to have them respawn.

If I get 60+ hours out of a game, it's probably due to interesting play,
not the size of the content, and very few games truly provide the content
to begin with.

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Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've had the feeling for a while now that Grand Theft Auto VI is going
to end up being a disappointment for Rockstar. It'll probably do well
in absolute terms and be one of the best selling games of next year,
but something I can't quite put my finger on is making me think this is
where Rockstar finally stumbles.

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On 23/05/2025 17:17, Zaghadka wrote:

Procedurally generated open world grinds have 30 hours of real gameplay,
IMO. Elite: Dangerous for instance. Or TES. Some people get unlimited
play out of that, I get about 30-40 hours and then I'm bored. Often to
the exclusion of the story quest. Which is plenty. But it's not because
the game is actually full of content. Skyrim's map is pretty tiny, for instance, and E:Dangerous is 90% empty space.

I spent many enjoyable hours in FO:3/NV and Skyrim just exploring the
different stories. I think it works, for me at least, as it doesn't feel
as though you're grinding but instead every gameplay session you
discover something new and make what feels like progress.

Civ, otoh, I play and play and play. I have over a thousand hours in Civ
V (with considerable help from my wife). I have 100 in Civ VI, on my own.
I never counted the hours in earlier versions. But that's a different experience. You can get a lot of mileage out of something like "Monopoly"
or "Parcheesi." A game where your approach to random starts is more
important than actual content gives many hours to the player. It's like you're procedurally generating the game yourself.

So "large" games are mostly a gimmick to me. Nobody puts the actual time
in. I was shocked at the 15 hour, story driven single-player FPS when it first happened, but it really is the sweet spot, as demonstrated by the original Half Life. FarCry is not the sweet spot, unless you really like ambushing things over and over again only to have them respawn.

The sweet spot for me is anywhere between 10-25hrs depending on what
type of game it is with action type games being at the lower end and
story driven games at the higher end.

The tipping point is when I realise I'm no longer really enjoying the
game so I'm now playing it just to complete it. If the game doesn't have
a strong story then I'd probably just give up at that point.

If I get 60+ hours out of a game, it's probably due to interesting play,
not the size of the content, and very few games truly provide the content
to begin with.

That's the problem I have with the longer games. They mostly feel like
they've been padded out just because the dev's think that they need to
do that otherwise people will complain about value for money. It was one
of the complaints about the Outer Worlds as you might typically spend a
'mere' 25hrs to complete it. For me it was almost perfect as I felt I'd
seen all the game had to offer including the ending.

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On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

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JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is
not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Xocyll
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On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid people.... ;)

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Ross Ridge <rridge@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote at 15:20 this Saturday (GMT):

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> wrote:

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've had the feeling for a while now that Grand Theft Auto VI is going
to end up being a disappointment for Rockstar. It'll probably do well
in absolute terms and be one of the best selling games of next year,
but something I can't quite put my finger on is making me think this is
where Rockstar finally stumbles.

I agree, it does seem like one of those overhyped games that sells well
because "we've been waiting for so long".
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 15:32 this Monday (GMT):

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid people.... ;)

It seems to have a pretty high concentration, though.
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On 5/27/2025 7:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 15:32 this Monday (GMT):

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
people.... ;)

It seems to have a pretty high concentration, though.

No higher than the general population. My current job and a past job
involved access to police records and criminal case files. There are a
LOT of VERY stupid people.

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On Mon, 26 May 2025 07:00:05 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been
much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, [fools] with money, which is all that matters to PT Barnum or
Rockstar Games.

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On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning
about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid >people.... ;)

Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.

People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.

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On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:12:41 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, JAB
wrote:

On 23/05/2025 17:17, Zaghadka wrote:

If I get 60+ hours out of a game, it's probably due to interesting play,
not the size of the content, and very few games truly provide the content
to begin with.

That's the problem I have with the longer games. They mostly feel like >they've been padded out just because the dev's think that they need to
do that otherwise people will complain about value for money. It was one
of the complaints about the Outer Worlds as you might typically spend a >'mere' 25hrs to complete it. For me it was almost perfect as I felt I'd
seen all the game had to offer including the ending.

Yeah, I had a false start at Outer Worlds a few years back on release,
and now I'm doing an earnest run at it. The setting *is* really
interesting, and I like the humor, but it's one of those games where I'm
going to stick to the main quest line.

As I remember, the side quests were pretty underwhelming, and gave little benefit to the player. It plays like ironic Mass Effect 2 to me.

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Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong. >>>>

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on
what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid >>people.... ;)

Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.

People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.

You have only to watch them walk into traffic staring at their phones to
know that.

When I go out my phone lives in a back pocket, ignored utterly until I
need to call a cab or someone calls me.
No data plan, cause who the fuck wants to use the internet on a 1.5"x1"
screen?

It's not the internet that makes them stupid, it's social media and
clickbait sites (that both use the same techniques for "viewer
engagement".)

Xocyll
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On 5/27/2025 12:36 PM, Xocyll wrote:

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
people.... ;)

Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.

People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.

You have only to watch them walk into traffic staring at their phones to
know that.

When I go out my phone lives in a back pocket, ignored utterly until I
need to call a cab or someone calls me.
No data plan, cause who the fuck wants to use the internet on a 1.5"x1" screen?

It's not the internet that makes them stupid, it's social media and
clickbait sites (that both use the same techniques for "viewer
engagement".)

I still use a flip-phone. Old school flip-phone.

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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:58 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 5/27/2025 7:40 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 15:32 this Monday (GMT): >>> On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just
because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
people.... ;)

It seems to have a pretty high concentration, though.

No higher than the general population. My current job and a past job involved access to police records and criminal case files. There are a
LOT of VERY stupid people.

Maybe, but the stupid people are very loud sometimes too.
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

On 5/27/2025 12:36 PM, Xocyll wrote:

Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of
the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On Mon, 26 May 2025 08:32:09 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 5/26/2025 4:00 AM, Xocyll wrote:

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn >>>>> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

On 23/05/2025 14:02, Zaghadka wrote:

Saying all of that, what a stupid thing to say. It wouldn't have been >>>>>>>> much worse if he had just said, it's only $80 what are you moaning >>>>>>>> about. I spent more than that on a burger yesterday. Border Lands 4 is >>>>>>>> not GTA 6.

Neither is GTA 6. I think GTA 6 is gawn flop. Could, as always, be wrong.

I've never been a big fan of GTA so my impression is mostly based on >>>>>> what other people have said. The internet seemed to go alight just >>>>>> because a trailer had been released.

But the Internet is full of stupid people.

Well, let's be fair, its not just The Internet that is full of stupid
people.... ;)

Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet *makes* you stupid.

People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time. >>

You have only to watch them walk into traffic staring at their phones to
know that.

When I go out my phone lives in a back pocket, ignored utterly until I
need to call a cab or someone calls me.
No data plan, cause who the fuck wants to use the internet on a 1.5"x1"
screen?

It's not the internet that makes them stupid, it's social media and
clickbait sites (that both use the same techniques for "viewer
engagement".)

I still use a flip-phone. Old school flip-phone.

Ditto. Samsung S275 I bought in 2013.
Got it strictly cause the old nokia brick kept pocket dialing.

When the Shadows scream, I've got a call.
(B5 Shadow Battlecrab psychic scream custom ring tone.)

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On 27/05/2025 17:05, Zaghadka wrote:

Ima go with Something Awful's tagline: The Internet*makes* you stupid.

People who live entirely on their phones are getting dumber all the time.

I'm not sure the internet, well social media, makes you dumb. I'd
probably say that instead it's brutally highlighted how people are
willing to believe things they see if they support what they already
believe.

As an example, during Brexit a reason of why we should leave the EU was
a ruling under something called the ECHR which was supposed to have said
that someone couldn't be deported as they had a cat. Now you think that
people would look at that and think that can't be true (it wasn't of
course*) but I heard people who were anti-EU repeat it and how the EU
were dictating our laws. The other problem with it, just because the E
in ECHR stands for European doesn't mean it's part of the EU. The
amusing part is the ECHR was described by Winston Churchill as one of
his greatest achievements - you don't get much more British than that.

*The actually truth was that it was a guy from Colombia that had over
stayed his visa as he'd met someone who he then ended up living with for several years and still did. The cat part was a very minor detail that
was included to help demonstrate that they were in a committed long term relationship. In summing up the judge quipped that Colombia would be
safe from the mouser.

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