I bought this game when it first game out for PC (2021), and didn't
complete it, despite having a decent enough time with it... I do
remember writing here about how it was a very long campaign (my
preferred duration is about 12 hours), so after 15 hours or so I was
starting to wish it was shorter.

I don't remember the exact circumstances of why I put it down
unfinished, as happens often with me and overly long games. I may
have gotten a shiny new piece of music gear, or gone on a vacation, or
for whatever reason had a schedule fluctuation that made me break the
cycle of working through the campaign.

So lately I had the urge to pick this one back up and continue where I
left off, and I may actually even be having more fun with it now than
I did the first time around. Whether or not that's because the game
itself gets better later on in the game, or if it's just because there
have been very few games in the last 2 years that inspired me to play
them at all... I have no idea.

With many games, trying to resume them a year or two later doesn't
work very well -- I've lost most of the context and momentum of the
initial play, and don't feel very inspired to remember exactly where I
was with everything. This game, however, pulled me right back in.
Maybe it's the simplicity of the game mechanics that didn't have me
struggling to remember which key was bound to what...

So, maybe I'll finish the campaign this time. Or, maybe I'll play
another dozen hours or so and put it down again and come back later.

Supposedly, there won't be a sequel.. one of the reasons John Garvin
says for this is due to "woke reviewers who couldn�t handle a gruff
white biker looking at his date�s ass.�...

... And that's a shame because that sort of thing is part of the games
charm. The fact that it is not afraid to get a little bit real in
places is one of the things that makes the story dialog not feel so
geared toward 12 year old snowflakes. I actually find myself not only watching, but enjoying the cutscenes of the game, even though they are
in ample supply.

So if you have any interest in it, it's $16.50 on Steam right now.
Definitely recommended at that price. There are a few haters out
there, but most agree it's a good game. A metacritic User Score
(which I always find more reliable than pro reviewer's score) of 8.4
is not all that common.

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I bought this game when it first game out for PC (2021), and didn't
complete it, despite having a decent enough time with it...

I also bought this in a previous sale, and just haven't gotten around to
it. I don't care about whatever minor politics might be in it, I'm just feeling the lack of hours in the day and competing interests....

rms

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On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 18:54:01 -0600, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

I bought this game when it first game out for PC (2021), and didn't >>complete it, despite having a decent enough time with it...

I also bought this in a previous sale, and just haven't gotten around to
it. I don't care about whatever minor politics might be in it, I'm just >feeling the lack of hours in the day and competing interests....

Those are always challenges for me to. I think what surprised me most
about this game is how easy it was to resume where I left it 2 years
later without a sense of momentum loss that detracts from enjoyment.
That doesn't happen to me often with SP games.

So if that idea appeals to you, don't hesitate to fire it up and get
started, playing an hour here and there slowly over a period of years
:)

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On 2023-10-30, Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

With many games, trying to resume them a year or two later doesn't
work very well -- I've lost most of the context and momentum of the
initial play, and don't feel very inspired to remember exactly where I
was with everything.

I have this exact problem. I rarely complete a game in a few days, often
taking weeks and being distracted by another demo or 'short' game. Then
going back I have forgot the story line, quest and keys/button actions.

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

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On 01/11/2023 03:30, Geeknix wrote:

On 2023-10-30, Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

With many games, trying to resume them a year or two later doesn't
work very well -- I've lost most of the context and momentum of the
initial play, and don't feel very inspired to remember exactly where I
was with everything.

I have this exact problem. I rarely complete a game in a few days, often taking weeks and being distracted by another demo or 'short' game. Then
going back I have forgot the story line, quest and keys/button actions.

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

I have a couple of ways of doing this. The first is I won't start (well
try not to anyway) a different game* until I'm getting to the stage in
the current one that it's drifting towards being a chore and away from
being enjoyable. The second one is more of a sledge hammer, I tend not
to play games any more that aren't can't pick up again and quickly get
back into. That means I no longer play grand strategy games.

*That's also saved me a lot of money on Steam.

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 03:30:03 GMT, Geeknix
<usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> wrote:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

I tell myself I need something to write about at the end of the month,
and - since short posts are anaethema to me - I'd better get a move on
it otherwise I'll only have one game to discuss. ;-)

That's less of a joke than I wish it was...

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2023 03:30:03 GMT, Geeknix
<usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> wrote:

On 2023-10-30, Rin Stowleigh <rstowleigh@x-nospam-x.com> wrote:

With many games, trying to resume them a year or two later doesn't
work very well -- I've lost most of the context and momentum of the
initial play, and don't feel very inspired to remember exactly where I
was with everything.

I have this exact problem. I rarely complete a game in a few days, often >taking weeks and being distracted by another demo or 'short' game. Then
going back I have forgot the story line, quest and keys/button actions.

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

First, my single player game purchases are usually strategically
timed. If I just feel like trying a new game, I usually pluck
something from Steam by going into my wishlist and looking for games
that are heavily (60-80%) discounted. This helps me start the game
initially when I have a reasonable chance of completion.

But, that doesn't help with resuming later. The reality is that in
almost all cases I don't, because restarting is a chore and I figure
that whatever reason I didn't complete it in the first place is likely
to occur again, if I'm not inspired to resume where I left off.

Days Gone was a little different in the sense that I was looking
forward to that title prior to release for the PC.

Another game that I do go back to occasionally is Far Cry 6... but in
that case, I did complete the campaign. Some of the side quests /
treasure hunts are fun mini games in their own right, and are easy to
jump back into.

After this recent experience with Days Gone, I may try this with other uncompleted titles to see how it goes. The Red Ded Redemption 2
campaign would probably be my next stop. I played hundreds of hours
of RDR2 online (and missions online are similar to the campaign), so remembering controls and mechanics won't be an issue, and it was one
of my favorite titles, so completionism seems in order anyway.

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Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> writes:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

Sometimes it's enough to start a new game and play it a little while to
get a refresher on what the what is and then it's possible to switch
back to the old save. If the game allows this, of course.

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Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Supposedly, there won't be a sequel.. one of the reasons John Garvin
says for this is due to "woke reviewers who couldn’t handle a gruff
white biker looking at his date’s ass.”...

I don't remember hearing any of that. The way I remember it, the game
was good, but a) it kinda got sandwiched between too many high profile
releases and b) It may have been a bit too heavy on the "Motorbike
mechanic simulator".

It's more like it never got a big marketing push, and releasing too
close too many games that looked too similar to the players. When you
already have God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Death
Stranding, etc covering both open world and zombie games, there's not a
lot of pie left. It's like it got "Battleborned".

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 12:53:46 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Supposedly, there won't be a sequel.. one of the reasons John Garvin
says for this is due to "woke reviewers who couldn�t handle a gruff
white biker looking at his date�s ass.�...

I don't remember hearing any of that. The way I remember it, the game
was good, but a) it kinda got sandwiched between too many high profile >releases and b) It may have been a bit too heavy on the "Motorbike
mechanic simulator".

It's more like it never got a big marketing push, and releasing too
close too many games that looked too similar to the players. When you
already have God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Death
Stranding, etc covering both open world and zombie games, there's not a
lot of pie left. It's like it got "Battleborned".

This.

I'm actually in the middle of playing this game. Having been
disappointed by "State of Decay 2", I heard many recommending "Days
Gone" as the better alternative, and - seeing as it was recently on
sale - I thought, why not?

There's nothing really wrong with this game (well, aside from some
over-the-top machismo that makes a lot of the characters in the game a
bit more unlikable than they need be) but it really doesn't stand out
either. It's a very typical open-world game, with all the usual
nonsense we expect from that genre. It's "Far Cry 5", but with
zombies.

At least, so far. I'm not sure how far I've gotten into this game yet
(maybe 20%?) so it's possible the experience will radically improve at
some point. I'll withhold final judgment until then. But so far, while
the game isn't disappointing me - I'm having fun - neither is it
really impressing me.

(The motorcycle thing is really overblown, though. Fans of the game
espouse its incredible motorcycle riding experience, but to me it
feels pretty much like every other motorcycle in this sort of game...
and the mechanical bits are just picking parts from a menu, and
pressing a key to repair the thing when it inevitably breaks down
(it's incredibly fragile). Personally, I'd do without the damn beast
if I could - I much prefer hoofing it through the wilds - but you can
only quick-travel or save the game if you're within a certain range of
the machine. But, honestly, it could have been a horse or a car or a
skateboard and it wouldn't have affected the game that much).

"Days Gone" is, at best, an above-average game. It doesn't really
stand out from its peers, and released against games like "God of War"
or "Horizon Zero Dawn", its no wonder it slipped under the radar for
most. Is it worth playing? Ehn. If you like the (open world/zombie)
genre? It's fine. It's not something I'd rush out to get otherwise,
though.

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 12:53:46 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Supposedly, there won't be a sequel.. one of the reasons John Garvin
says for this is due to "woke reviewers who couldn�t handle a gruff
white biker looking at his date�s ass.�...

I don't remember hearing any of that. The way I remember it, the game
was good, but a) it kinda got sandwiched between too many high profile >releases and b) It may have been a bit too heavy on the "Motorbike
mechanic simulator".

The bike mechanic simulator seems like a bit of a stretch. There is a
little bit of repairing and refueling as you ride around, but most
games have some sort of grindy activity like that (i.e. cook and eat
meals, repair weapons, etc.) and to me those bike related activities
don't seem particularly frequent.

It's more like it never got a big marketing push, and releasing too
close too many games that looked too similar to the players. When you
already have God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Death
Stranding, etc covering both open world and zombie games, there's not a
lot of pie left. It's like it got "Battleborned".

I couldn't really comment on the games marketing attempts, as I don't
follow much game marketing hype any more. In the case of Days Gone, I
had seen it advertised somewhere for the Playstation and remember
hoping they did a PC release.... mostly only because the theme/setting
is somewhat original (not so much the zombie apocalypse aspect, just
that the protagonist is kind of a reluctant hero biker dude). I tend
to be more drawn to themes with some basis in realism than I am to
themes that are sci-fi/fantasy based, so it got my attention for that
reason. I'm sure my tastes aren't typical of the majority.

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:21:29 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> writes:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

Sometimes it's enough to start a new game and play it a little while to
get a refresher on what the what is and then it's possible to switch
back to the old save. If the game allows this, of course.

One good way to identify the games that will be more rewarding to
resume at a later date are the ones that don't have a gazillion pop-up
tutorial dialogs with lots of weird if-then conditions and exceptions
that need to be explained to the player during the first hour or two.

I can understand lots of pop-up dialogs for certain game genres.. it's
just that I'm not really into those genres, and even if I were, I
doubt many of them are easy to put down and pick up at a later date.

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On 11/2/23 13:51, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:21:29 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> writes:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

Sometimes it's enough to start a new game and play it a little while to
get a refresher on what the what is and then it's possible to switch
back to the old save. If the game allows this, of course.

One good way to identify the games that will be more rewarding to
resume at a later date are the ones that don't have a gazillion pop-up tutorial dialogs with lots of weird if-then conditions and exceptions
that need to be explained to the player during the first hour or two.

I can understand lots of pop-up dialogs for certain game genres.. it's
just that I'm not really into those genres, and even if I were, I
doubt many of them are easy to put down and pick up at a later date.

So the more intuitive the game is?
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Rin Stowleigh wrote:

The bike mechanic simulator seems like a bit of a stretch. There is
a little bit of repairing and refueling as you ride around, but most
games have some sort of grindy activity like that (i.e. cook and eat
meals, repair weapons, etc.) and to me those bike related activities
don't seem particularly frequent.

Just quoting the opinions of the media at the time. I "got" the game
with PS Plus and I have never gathered the strength to try it. In fact,
Sony giving Horizon Zero Dawn for free (No sub required) during the
pandemic as part of the "Stay at home playing" bundle probably did not
make Gone Days a lot of favors.

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Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> wrote:

I have this exact problem. I rarely complete a game in a few days, often >taking weeks and being distracted by another demo or 'short' game. Then
going back I have forgot the story line, quest and keys/button actions.

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

I know if I stop playing a game for more than a week or so I'm done with
it. I won't remember what was I doing and won't want to start again.
That basically means I'll either choose to give up on the old game
and play the shiny new game instead or continue playing the old game.
Lately though I've been taking a third option and playing them both, alternating between them.

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 09:14:04 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 12:53:46 +0100, H1M3M <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Supposedly, there won't be a sequel.. one of the reasons John Garvin
says for this is due to "woke reviewers who couldn�t handle a gruff
white biker looking at his date�s ass.�...

I don't remember hearing any of that. The way I remember it, the game
was good, but a) it kinda got sandwiched between too many high profile >>releases and b) It may have been a bit too heavy on the "Motorbike
mechanic simulator".

It's more like it never got a big marketing push, and releasing too
close too many games that looked too similar to the players. When you >>already have God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Death >>Stranding, etc covering both open world and zombie games, there's not a
lot of pie left. It's like it got "Battleborned".

This.

I'm actually in the middle of playing this game. Having been
disappointed by "State of Decay 2", I heard many recommending "Days
Gone" as the better alternative, and - seeing as it was recently on
sale - I thought, why not?

Tried State of Decay 2 briefly and refunded... Days Gone is much
better.

There's nothing really wrong with this game (well, aside from some >over-the-top machismo that makes a lot of the characters in the game a
bit more unlikable than they need be) but it really doesn't stand out
either. It's a very typical open-world game, with all the usual
nonsense we expect from that genre. It's "Far Cry 5", but with
zombies.

The gameplay is certainly not particularly original.. But compared to
the Far Cry series, it has kind of an Alan Wake vibe to it.

At least, so far. I'm not sure how far I've gotten into this game yet
(maybe 20%?) so it's possible the experience will radically improve at
some point. I'll withhold final judgment until then. But so far, while
the game isn't disappointing me - I'm having fun - neither is it
really impressing me.

Later on in the game, the shootouts with human enemies are more
enjoyable I think. But, it's not enough to make someone declare it an
amazing game that doesn't already hold that opinion in the first 20
hours.

(The motorcycle thing is really overblown, though. Fans of the game
espouse its incredible motorcycle riding experience, but to me it
feels pretty much like every other motorcycle in this sort of game...

But, how many open-world, motorcycle based,
Farcry-like-yet-third-person, with relatively non-juvenile dialog
zombie shooters like this are there out there? I think that's it's
real edge. The theme may not be for everyone, but for those who are
drawn to it I think it's a game worth playing.

It also has a decent soundtrack, from a production standpoint (by that
I mean there is music that's good at the consumer level, where "good"
is mostly subjective and to individual taste, in which case
discussions of good or bad is moot... but then there is good/bad from
the perspective of being knowledgeable about the technical aspects of
music production, and listening to music with a trained ear, in a way
that identifies specific techniques of creation... and from the latter perspective, it's decent stuff that fits the game quite well (one
aspect of soundtrack scoring that not everyone gets right).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_TVxvARqeg

"Days Gone" is, at best, an above-average game. It doesn't really
stand out from its peers, and released against games like "God of War"
or "Horizon Zero Dawn", its no wonder it slipped under the radar for
most. Is it worth playing? Ehn. If you like the (open world/zombie)
genre? It's fine. It's not something I'd rush out to get otherwise,
though.

I did like Horizon Zero Dawn, but it gets repetitive fast, and I've
never been inspired to return to it whereas Days Gone was always on my
list to circle back to. God of War... I tried it. I definitely see
the appeal and high production value, but couldn't get into it. So I absolutely get how the theme/setting of those two would find a broader
audience than Days Gone... But to me, Day's Gone is better than
either.

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 20:12:35 +0100, H1MEM <wipnoah@gmail.com> wrote:

Rin Stowleigh wrote:

The bike mechanic simulator seems like a bit of a stretch. There is
a little bit of repairing and refueling as you ride around, but most
games have some sort of grindy activity like that (i.e. cook and eat
meals, repair weapons, etc.) and to me those bike related activities
don't seem particularly frequent.

Just quoting the opinions of the media at the time. I "got" the game
with PS Plus and I have never gathered the strength to try it. In fact,
Sony giving Horizon Zero Dawn for free (No sub required) during the
pandemic as part of the "Stay at home playing" bundle probably did not
make Gone Days a lot of favors.

I've seen a lot of reviews from folks that didn't like it on PS, but
said it's a whole different game on PC and feels made for the PC. I
don't know if they are just talking about graphic upgrades or if there
is a difference between PS4 vs PS5, etc... not being much of a console
guy I don't follow it all at that level.

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 13:54:13 -0500, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net>
wrote:

On 11/2/23 13:51, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

On Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:21:29 +0200, Anssi Saari
<anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> writes:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

Sometimes it's enough to start a new game and play it a little while to
get a refresher on what the what is and then it's possible to switch
back to the old save. If the game allows this, of course.

One good way to identify the games that will be more rewarding to
resume at a later date are the ones that don't have a gazillion pop-up
tutorial dialogs with lots of weird if-then conditions and exceptions
that need to be explained to the player during the first hour or two.

I can understand lots of pop-up dialogs for certain game genres.. it's
just that I'm not really into those genres, and even if I were, I
doubt many of them are easy to put down and pick up at a later date.

So the more intuitive the game is?

Yes -- the less it bothers me with computer based tutorials, the
easier suspension of disbelief kicks in and I can feel somewhat
immersed. And of course, that benefit repeats on pause-and-resume
gameplay.

If the game has to tell me "This is the Sword of Enlightenment. Its a
special sword, that does more damage to skeletons at night than it
does in the morning, yet has the opposite effect on goblins where it
adds a +9 hit bonus in the morning as long as you're not carrying the
Charmed Dildo of Douchiness anywhere in your inventory".

That kind of crap can be mildly interesting when you first start a
game while making the same title useless if you put it down and resume
later.

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I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

This is what I loved about Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak. The campaign is split into roughly hour-long battles, perfect for a night's playing, and
each battle is preceded by a good cutscene that summarizes the campaign thus far, where you are now, and introduces the next objective. Great stuff.

rms

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 15:55:09 -0600, "rms" <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net>
wrote:

I resort to restarting the game which can be tedious. How do others
handle this?

This is what I loved about Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak. The campaign is
split into roughly hour-long battles, perfect for a night's playing, and
each battle is preceded by a good cutscene that summarizes the campaign thus >far, where you are now, and introduces the next objective. Great stuff.

I think you might like this aspect of Days Gone, then... and actually
maybe herein you've captured here why this title is so "resumable".

The missions are broken into multiple story lines, and you can switch
between those lines at any time. You can clear several of them in a
sitting (how many in what time frame depends probably on how much of
the cutscenes you want to watch, as well as which particular
mission).... but it all feels quite "modularized-yet-non-linear"...

...and this might be the important part... the granularity of each
module feels very well thought out. Maybe that plays a big role in
what makes it easy to pick up and put down.

These days, ever since "Facebook", there's been this douchey marketing
push about "customer engagement", which is all about trying to exploit psychological trickery that addicts the user and keeps them coming
back, whether it would have been their natural propensity to do so, unmanipulated, or not. Same with loot boxes, etc.. its all
psychological manipulation attempts.

This game seems to throw all that crap over the fence and say "come
back and engage when you're inspired to do so". That's what makes it
stand out in terms of game design I think, and what motivated me to
create this thread and give this game a thumbs up.

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On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 12:30:08 PM UTC-7, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Farcry-like-yet-third-person, with relatively non-juvenile dialog
zombie shooters like this are there out there? I think that's it's
real edge. The theme may not be for everyone, but for those who are
drawn to it I think it's a game worth playing.

This is selling me on it. Most of the zombie games of late have been multi-player arena type games, or survival which are not my groove.
I'm missing a good single player zombie shooter, and I do tend to prefer riding motorcycles in games, if not in real life. I'm not that into Farcry/ Open world but the rest sounds good.

I did like Horizon Zero Dawn, but it gets repetitive fast

Second that, along with most of the AC titles.

Huh, already had it on my wishlist. Currently $50, which is a bit much
for my interest, maybe when it goes on sale if ever.

- Justisaur

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 15:56:20 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
<justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 12:30:08?PM UTC-7, Rin Stowleigh wrote:

Farcry-like-yet-third-person, with relatively non-juvenile dialog
zombie shooters like this are there out there? I think that's it's
real edge. The theme may not be for everyone, but for those who are
drawn to it I think it's a game worth playing.

This is selling me on it. Most of the zombie games of late have been >multi-player arena type games, or survival which are not my groove.
I'm missing a good single player zombie shooter, and I do tend to prefer >riding motorcycles in games, if not in real life. I'm not that into Farcry/ >Open world but the rest sounds good.

I did like Horizon Zero Dawn, but it gets repetitive fast

Second that, along with most of the AC titles.

Huh, already had it on my wishlist. Currently $50, which is a bit much
for my interest, maybe when it goes on sale if ever.

- Justisaur

Sucks that it went back up to $50 from $16.50... Best to just
wishlist it and grab it when it goes on sale again. It probably will
soon... black friday and all that.

FWIW, I just looked at my records and I paid full price for it when it
first landed on PC, and continued to play it for about 20 hours which
to me is a good return. That VERY rarely happens with a single player
game with me.... Buying and trying on early release happens, but most
of it gets refunded in the first hour.

There have been $10 games I spent only a couple of hours on, yet
didn't feel ripped off.. But there have been way more that I quickly
refunded and wanted to invoice the vendor for the amount of time it
took me to download and install and pain through the tutorial
(hint.... my billable consulting hour is $325/hr).

So honestly a good game, versus lots of crap games, to me is more
valuable even at the release price. But I don't buy many SP games at
release price anymore.

In general though, a sub-$20 game is much harder to regret sinking in
an hour or two to make a refund decision or not than $50+ game.

It's been a long time since I felt legitimately "ripped" on a game.
Once Steam made the refund policy so easy, my life and dealing with
shovelware became a no brainer. The part I was wrong about was that I
thought this would actually result in vendors spending more time on
quality in games. Sadly that does not appear to be what happened.

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 20:03:14 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> writes:

Huh, already had it on my wishlist. Currently $50, which is a bit much
for my interest, maybe when it goes on sale if ever.

I got a price alert from Cheapshark today, Days Gone went to $23.99 at >gamebillet.com. Apparently in US only though.

You missed out, then; it went down to $16.99USD the other day (okay,
the other week) on GOG and Steam. I'm not entirely sure it was worth
that price, but I took the opportunity to grab it then.

But honestly, you might be better off just waiting for it to show up
on HumbleChoice (cheap) or Epic (free). It's setting is utterly
generic, the gameplay completely ordinary, the story and characters
trite and predictible. It isn't fundamentally broken in any way but it
fails to do anything new or exciting either.

It's not a bad game - and I'll happily admit I'm enjoying it more than
I did "State of Decay 2" - but unless you absolutely MUST PLAY another
zombie game, there's no need to rush out to play "Days Gone". It's an
average title with no novelty and nothing profound about it. The
initial overly negative reaction the game initially received was
probably undeserved, but that doesn't mean it's suddenly a great game
either. It's weaknesses are apparent after only a few hours (or even
minutes) of gameplay.

There's a glut of /actually good/ games available on the market; your
time is probably better spent on any of those.

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Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> writes:

Huh, already had it on my wishlist. Currently $50, which is a bit much
for my interest, maybe when it goes on sale if ever.

I got a price alert from Cheapshark today, Days Gone went to $23.99 at gamebillet.com. Apparently in US only though.

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 20:03:14 +0200, Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@gmail.com> writes:

Huh, already had it on my wishlist. Currently $50, which is a bit much
for my interest, maybe when it goes on sale if ever.

I got a price alert from Cheapshark today, Days Gone went to $23.99 at >gamebillet.com. Apparently in US only though.

It was $16.50 on Steam not long ago, so $24 isn't the cheapest, but
the vast majority of players would probably still recommend at that
price, if the biker / zombie killer setting appeals to you.

The biggest downside to the game is it's length and the fact it takes
a while to really get started... and I mean a REALLY long while. As
mentioned (and actually the purpose of the thread), that downside is
offset by the fact it's an easy game to put down and pick up later and
complete over a very long duration.

Once you get maybe 25 or 30 hours of play in, the mission design
starts to get a bit more interesting (from the gameplay perspective,
not really the story perspective). My opinion of the game was
elevated once I got to a particular level that really makes you plan
tactically about how to handle a zombie horde (I won't spoil that
here, I'll just say its worth the wait).

The game is not for everyone... I've seen people on YT that were
nearing age 60, living in a corner of their mom's basement surrounded
by Star Trek memorablia and Star Wars action figures talk about how
it's a crap game with a boring story. The setting/story really isn't
geared toward that audience or the folks that are interested in
thousands of procedurally generated planets.

If you cast aside highly individualized anecdotal opinions (including
mine! ;)) and look at the big picture, the overall Interwebz consensus
is that its a nice game and probably well worth $24.

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