Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.



Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

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On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 2:25:47 PM UTC-7, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

You can say I am President Trump for all I care.

He is incontrovertibly flooding, he got caught and he's doing the familiar pranks taught in Intro to Trolling classes as he strives to be given what Rbowman already has... but it won't work. Rbowman can create a virtual
machine. Rips what that Mac can do to shreds!

-
Get Rich Slow https://gibiru.com/results.html?q=Steve+Petruzzellis+%22NARCISSISTIC+BIGOT%22 Dustin Cook the functionally illiterate fraud

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PSOn Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

PS I got my Pfizer booster shot on Tuesday this week. My local hospital had a very long line Monday or it would have been then instead.

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On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in attendance. Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.
Go into a retail store without a mask.
Go dancing at a club.
Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

Your low case rate is attributable to a higher vaccination rate and past restrictions of freedom. Canada places less value on freedom than we do. Plus, your population is more rational when it comes to protecting yourself and others when an effective
solution with low risk is available.

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On 2021-09-30 10:28 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for
cases is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.



Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in
BC.

:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in
attendance.

Something which is sure to get people killed, go on.

Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.

Great.

Go into a retail store without a mask.

And further spread COVID-19, got it.

Go dancing at a club. Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

Your low case rate is attributable to a higher vaccination rate and
past restrictions of freedom. Canada places less value on freedom
than we do. Plus, your population is more rational when it comes to protecting yourself and others when an effective solution with low
risk is available.

And it has SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 2:24:43 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:

On 2021-09-30 10:28 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for
cases is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.



Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in
BC.
:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in
attendance.

Something which is sure to get people killed, go on.

Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.

Great.

Frankly, I'm wondering why the criteria isn't an event that's within Indiana.
Tom's example has a 600 mile driving requirement.

Go into a retail store without a mask.

And further spread COVID-19, got it.

Because wearing a mask is a sign that's just as onerous as carrying Christ's cross?

How many of those same retail stores allow me in without a shirt & shoes?
Or for that matter, without pants?

Go dancing at a club. Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

With, or without proof of vaccination as an entry requirement?

Your low case rate is attributable to a higher vaccination rate and
past restrictions of freedom. Canada places less value on freedom
than we do. Plus, your population is more rational when it comes to protecting yourself and others when an effective solution with low
risk is available.

I find the "more rational" admission part to be quite humorous, as what Tom is really saying is that Canadians are not so stupidly selfish to make a big deal over what are often essentially quite minor concessions for the public good, but that yes, Americans really are just that stupid. Can't disagree with that.

And it has SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

Indeed it has. I forget if I've already posted this here within the past ~week,
but its worth doing so again as a reminder of just how poorly some regions
of the USA are taking care of their own populations:

<http://huntzinger.com/photo/2021/CoVid19-mortality2021-latest-chart.jpg>

For point of reference, FL was #1, at 929 deaths/million for the period of 3/1/21-9/19/21,
despite their undercount delay strategy. Here's the rest of the raw datapoints:

FL 929
MS 844
LA 819
AR 734
GA 687
KY 677
AL 670
TX 635
NV 613
SC 605
MI 549
OK 548
DE 511
WV 508

National Average: 502 per million

MO 496
MT 486
AZ 484
NM 457
NJ 442
VA 436
TN 431
WY 427
NC 419
ID 418
CA 390
NY 390
KS 383
PA 376
IN 373
OH 357
IL 350
MA 337
OR 323
MD 319
CO 303
IA 295
WA 294
RI 292
MN 270
UT 266
SD 240
CT 231
DC 213
NH 211
ME 209
WI 206
HI 194
ND 185
AK 174
VT 151
NE 149
Puerto Rico 306
Guam 284
USVI 393
N. Mariana 0

As per the above illustration of mortality outcomes, I'd say that any region who's above
the National Average shouldn't be used as example of where "freedoms" are working in
balance to risks. Yeah, I'm directly referring to "full attendance" Athens GA football games...


-hh

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 4:39:47 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 2:24:43 AM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:

On 2021-09-30 10:28 p.m., Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for
cases is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.



Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in
BC.
:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in attendance.

Something which is sure to get people killed, go on.

Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.

Great.

Frankly, I'm wondering why the criteria isn't an event that's within Indiana.
Tom's example has a 600 mile driving requirement.

Go into a retail store without a mask.

And further spread COVID-19, got it.

Because wearing a mask is a sign that's just as onerous as carrying Christ's cross?

How many of those same retail stores allow me in without a shirt & shoes?
Or for that matter, without pants?

Go dancing at a club. Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

With, or without proof of vaccination as an entry requirement?

Your low case rate is attributable to a higher vaccination rate and
past restrictions of freedom. Canada places less value on freedom
than we do. Plus, your population is more rational when it comes to protecting yourself and others when an effective solution with low
risk is available.

I find the "more rational" admission part to be quite humorous, as what Tom is
really saying is that Canadians are not so stupidly selfish to make a big deal
over what are often essentially quite minor concessions for the public good, but that yes, Americans really are just that stupid. Can't disagree with that.

And it has SAVED THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

Indeed it has. I forget if I've already posted this here within the past ~week,
but its worth doing so again as a reminder of just how poorly some regions of the USA are taking care of their own populations:

<http://huntzinger.com/photo/2021/CoVid19-mortality2021-latest-chart.jpg>

For point of reference, FL was #1, at 929 deaths/million for the period of 3/1/21-9/19/21,
despite their undercount delay strategy. Here's the rest of the raw datapoints:

FL 929
MS 844
LA 819
AR 734
GA 687
KY 677
AL 670
TX 635
NV 613
SC 605
MI 549
OK 548
DE 511
WV 508

National Average: 502 per million

A quick note: a very partial revision to the above:


54,353* FL 1,093 (was 929)
9,214 MS 844
13,418 LA 819
7,445 AR 734
24,577 GA 687
8,251 KY 677
13,210 AL 670
62,484 TX 635
6,845 NV 613
2,009** MT 609 (was 486)
11,614 SC 605
2,907** ID 582 (was 418)


Where:

* = mortality shown on 10/1 for date of 9/19 .. was previously listed as 50,825 for 9/19 on 9/20.
That's a +18% increase for the same end date.

** = manual change to end date (values on 10/1 for date of 9/30) for these two States.
While all States will have had increased by some amount, this is just a "quick look" at two (MT, ID)
based on news reports that there's been a bad CoVid outbreak there. The increase in period
mortality over just the past 11 days (<2 weeks) is MT +25% mortality; ID +39% mortality.

MO 496
MT 486 <-- was here
AZ 484
NM 457
NJ 442
VA 436
TN 431
WY 427
NC 419
ID 418 <-- was here
CA 390
NY 390
KS 383
PA 376
IN 373
OH 357
IL 350
MA 337
OR 323
MD 319
CO 303
IA 295
WA 294
RI 292
MN 270
UT 266
SD 240
CT 231
DC 213
NH 211
ME 209
WI 206
HI 194
ND 185
AK 174
VT 151
NE 149
Puerto Rico 306
Guam 284
USVI 393
N. Mariana 0

As per the above illustration of mortality outcomes, I'd say that any region who's above
the National Average shouldn't be used as example of where "freedoms" are working in
balance to risks. Yeah, I'm directly referring to "full attendance" Athens GA football games...

-hh

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 1:28:13 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact
numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in attendance. Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.
Go into a retail store without a mask.
Go dancing at a club.
Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

Don't get sick while you're in Athens... It ain't pretty. https://data.rgj.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/facility/piedmont-athens-regional-medical-center/110074/

Your low case rate is attributable to a higher vaccination rate and past restrictions of freedom. Canada places less value on freedom than we do. Plus, your population is more rational when it comes to protecting yourself and others when an effective

solution with low risk is available.

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On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 10:02:25 PM UTC-4, ed wrote:

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 1:28:13 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in attendance. Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.
Go into a retail store without a mask.
Go dancing at a club.
Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

Don't get sick while you're in Athens... It ain't pretty. https://data.rgj.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/facility/piedmont-athens-regional-medical-center/110074/

Georgia also has some reporting delays. Doing the same as above for checking back on their mortality as of 9/19, they're now saying 24,772 deaths for 705/M, up from 24,577 deaths for 687/m ... that's 195 more deaths than what had been reported just 10 days ago, most of which would have been in September.


-hh

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On Saturday, October 2, 2021 at 7:53:55 AM UTC-4, -hh wrote:

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 10:02:25 PM UTC-4, ed wrote:

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 1:28:13 AM UTC-4, Thomas E. wrote:

On Saturday, September 25, 2021 at 4:25:47 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:

Bearing in mind that your (Indiana's) current rolling average for cases
is 53 cases per 100,000 people...

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/>

...and mine (BC's) is...

13.1 (basically 4 times better).

<https://bccdc.shinyapps.io/covid19_global_epi_app/>

For deaths the figures (respectively are)

0.76 vs .09

(ish, the BC website only has the chart; I can't hover for exact numbers, but I can limit the data displayed to get very close).

That's more than 8 times better.

Now tell me all the things you can do in Indiana that I can't do in BC.

:-)

Go to a Georgia football game Saturday with a sellout crowd in attendance. Can’t do that in BC. 50% BC capacity limit and the Georgia game is in Athens. We will be there.
Go into a retail store without a mask.
Go dancing at a club.
Go to a wedding at a venue filled to capacity.

Don't get sick while you're in Athens... It ain't pretty. https://data.rgj.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/facility/piedmont-athens-regional-medical-center/110074/

Georgia also has some reporting delays. Doing the same as above for checking back on their mortality as of 9/19, they're now saying 24,772 deaths for 705/M,
up from 24,577 deaths for 687/m ... that's 195 more deaths than what had been
reported just 10 days ago, most of which would have been in September.

-hh

Lol

I have no responsibility for those who choose to refuse to protect themselves. We are all vaccinated in our family. We don’t wear masks unless we have no choice.

The stats matter in that vaccination rates matter.

As a country we have decided to allow personal freedoms. Thank you Biden for promoting vaccination mandates. About time.

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