• Proton Mail via Apple Mai?

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 12 09:58:42 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    iOS:
    Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via a web
    browser - this sucks (I don't actually access e-mail on my phone very
    much, but it is handy from time to time).

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    danger to American democracy.”
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    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Mon Mar 13 03:49:37 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 12/03/23 22:16, Alan Browne wrote:

    iOS:
    Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via a web

    Correction: using the ProtonMail app from the app store.

    Why not just set the x-platform protonmail iOS app to be the default MUA? https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id979659905 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.protonmail.android

    Do they not have a similar program for the desktops & laptops? https://proton.me/mail/download
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    Peter Moylan

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Mar 12 10:16:59 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12 09:58, Alan Browne wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    iOS:
    Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via a web

    Correction: using the ProtonMail app from the app store.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Joerg Lorenz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 12 15:43:41 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Am 12.03.23 um 14:58 schrieb Alan Browne:
    iOS:
    Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via a web browser - this sucks (I don't actually access e-mail on my phone very
    much, but it is handy from time to time).

    I use the Protonmail-App which ensures the encryption.

    https://proton.me/support/ios-iphone

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Mar 12 13:14:14 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12 13:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated
    regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last year
    that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in Bridge due
    to errors stemming from some refactoring of the Bridge cache. Other than that, it's been smooth sailing.

    Bridge acts as an intermediary between Proton servers and the local mail client, so it downloads messages into its own cache, then serves them to
    the local mail client. So if you have a lot of messages on the server,
    it can take a little while for all of them to be downloaded and appear
    in your mail client.

    Unfortunately the current Bridge v. available isn't compatible with the
    current v. of Mac OS on this iMac. I've sent a message to them to see
    if there is an older v. of Bridge that I can install. With the issues
    you point out above, it might not be worth it - I can use the web version.

    Doesn't matter much - I foresee this iMac being relegated to server or something sometime this year - if Apple can get the lead out on the next
    Mx version.

    iOS: Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via
    a web browser - this sucks (I don't actually access e-mail on my phone
    very much, but it is handy from time to time).

    Actually, Proton has an iOS mail app

    Yeah - Caught up to that just after posting. The app is installed and
    works fine.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Mar 12 17:00:25 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated
    regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last year
    that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in Bridge due
    to errors stemming from some refactoring of the Bridge cache. Other than
    that, it's been smooth sailing.

    Bridge acts as an intermediary between Proton servers and the local mail client, so it downloads messages into its own cache, then serves them to
    the local mail client. So if you have a lot of messages on the server,
    it can take a little while for all of them to be downloaded and appear
    in your mail client.

    iOS: Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via
    a web browser - this sucks (I don't actually access e-mail on my phone
    very much, but it is handy from time to time).

    Actually, Proton has an iOS mail app, and while it's not as
    fully-featured as Apple's Mail client, it works very well IME:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/proton-mail-encrypted-email/id979659905>

    Proton offers a highly secure set of services that fully end-to-end
    encrypt all of the data stored. They also have calendar, drive, and VPN services that are top-notch. I'm using Proton for all of the mail on my
    domain (several different users, multiple accounts) and it's been great.
    I haven't made any use of the calendar or drive services, but I do use
    the VPN service 24/7 in a Linux VM and on iOS, and it's been excellent
    as well. They iterate fairly quickly, and their apps tend to be on the
    lighter side as far as features go, but in general they are reliable and
    very secure. Highly recommended.

    --
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    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Mar 12 17:10:28 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated
    regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last year
    that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in Bridge due
    to errors stemming from some refactoring of the Bridge cache. Other than that, it's been smooth sailing.

    Bridge acts as an intermediary between Proton servers and the local mail client, so it downloads messages into its own cache, then serves them to
    the local mail client. So if you have a lot of messages on the server,
    it can take a little while for all of them to be downloaded and appear
    in your mail client.

    iOS: Likewise Proton mail can be accessed via an iPhone - but only via
    a web browser - this sucks (I don't actually access e-mail on my phone
    very much, but it is handy from time to time).

    Actually, Proton has an iOS mail app, and while it's not as
    fully-featured as Apple's Mail client, it works very well IME:

    <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/proton-mail-encrypted-email/id979659905>

    Proton offers a highly secure set of services that fully end-to-end
    encrypt all of the data stored. They also have calendar, drive, and VPN services that are top-notch. I'm using Proton for all of the mail on my domain (several different users, multiple accounts) and it's been great.
    I haven't made any use of the calendar or drive services, but I do use
    the VPN service 24/7 in a Linux VM and on iOS, and it's been excellent
    as well. They iterate fairly quickly, and their apps tend to be on the lighter side as far as features go, but in general they are reliable and
    very secure. Highly recommended.

    I forgot to mention that with some Proton packages, you get SimpleLogin
    for free:

    <https://simplelogin.io>

    SimpleLogin is integrated with Proton, and gives you the ability to
    create anonymous email aliases on the fly. In other words you don't even
    have to log in or create them - you can just think of one (example: bestbuy@yourdomain.simplelogin.com - just one of several formats
    available), give it to someone, and the moment an email arrives to that
    address it gets created and tracked automatically. You can configure
    different aliases to forward to different addresses, see a history of
    messages sent to each alias, and enable and disable them. It's a pretty
    handy service.

    --
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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Sun Mar 12 17:02:10 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12, Peter Moylan <peter@moylan.invalid> wrote:

    Do they not have a similar program for the desktops & laptops? https://proton.me/mail/download

    No. Instead, you use Proton Bridge with your favorite desktop mil
    client:

    <https://proton.me/mail/bridge>

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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sun Mar 12 17:57:33 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-03-12 13:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated
    regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last
    year that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in
    Bridge due to errors stemming from some refactoring of the Bridge
    cache. Other than that, it's been smooth sailing.

    Bridge acts as an intermediary between Proton servers and the local
    mail client, so it downloads messages into its own cache, then serves
    them to the local mail client. So if you have a lot of messages on
    the server, it can take a little while for all of them to be
    downloaded and appear in your mail client.

    Unfortunately the current Bridge v. available isn't compatible with
    the current v. of Mac OS on this iMac. I've sent a message to them to
    see if there is an older v. of Bridge that I can install. With the
    issues you point out above, it might not be worth it - I can use the
    web version.

    The issues I mentioned only pertained to installing a couple specific
    Bridge updates, so they wouldn't be a problem if you stuck with a single version.

    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Mar 12 13:16:48 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12 13:10, Jolly Roger wrote:

    I forgot to mention that with some Proton packages, you get SimpleLogin
    for free:

    <https://simplelogin.io>

    SimpleLogin is integrated with Proton, and gives you the ability to
    create anonymous email aliases on the fly. In other words you don't even
    have to log in or create them - you can just think of one (example: bestbuy@yourdomain.simplelogin.com - just one of several formats
    available), give it to someone, and the moment an email arrives to that address it gets created and tracked automatically. You can configure different aliases to forward to different addresses, see a history of messages sent to each alias, and enable and disable them. It's a pretty
    handy service.

    I did notice that - hadn't given it much thought, but yes such would be
    very useful for some site accesses, leaving comments and so on.

    OTOH, I'm a "freeloading" Proton user so far - so not sure if that
    service will be available to me.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Mar 12 14:10:27 2023
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2023-03-12 13:57, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
    On 2023-03-12 13:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-03-12, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

    Mac OS:
    Just found that Proton mail can be accessed via Mac's Apple Mail app
    with the use of a "bridge" from Proton.

    Has anyone tried this?

    Yep. I've been using it for a while now. Bridge has been updated
    regularly, and there were some hiccups with a couple updates last
    year that required you to delete, add, and reconfigure accounts in
    Bridge due to errors stemming from some refactoring of the Bridge
    cache. Other than that, it's been smooth sailing.

    Bridge acts as an intermediary between Proton servers and the local
    mail client, so it downloads messages into its own cache, then serves
    them to the local mail client. So if you have a lot of messages on
    the server, it can take a little while for all of them to be
    downloaded and appear in your mail client.

    Unfortunately the current Bridge v. available isn't compatible with
    the current v. of Mac OS on this iMac. I've sent a message to them to
    see if there is an older v. of Bridge that I can install. With the
    issues you point out above, it might not be worth it - I can use the
    web version.

    The issues I mentioned only pertained to installing a couple specific
    Bridge updates, so they wouldn't be a problem if you stuck with a single version.

    Ah - not so bad then. We'll see how Proton reply.

    --
    “Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
    danger to American democracy.”
    - J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
    - Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
    committee

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