Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
David Brooks wrote:
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
It's probably okay, assuming the app is legit (and a quick search suggests it is; good reviews at Tom's Guide, TechRadar, and PCMag)... but no, personally I would not.
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
On 12/04/2023 23:05, David Brooks wrote:
Would YOU grant access?
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
*Report a security or privacy vulnerability*
See: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201220
Apple Security Research
//Our groundbreaking security technologies protect the users of over
1.8 billion active devices around the world. Hear about the latest
advances in Apple security from our engineering teams, send us your
own research, and work directly with us to be recognized and rewarded
for helping keep our users safe.//
https://security.apple.com
On 2023-04-13, David Brooks <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
On 12/04/2023 23:05, David Brooks wrote:
Would YOU grant access?
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
*Report a security or privacy vulnerability*
See: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201220
Apple Security Research
//Our groundbreaking security technologies protect the users of over
1.8 billion active devices around the world. Hear about the latest
advances in Apple security from our engineering teams, send us your
own research, and work directly with us to be recognized and rewarded
for helping keep our users safe.//
https://security.apple.com
An application asking to access a key the app previously stored in your keychain isn't a security vulnerability. 🤣
All you will succeed in doing by reporting this is wasting Apple's time.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Much ado about nothing, as usual.
David Brooks wrote:
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
It's probably okay, assuming the app is legit (and a quick search suggests it is; good reviews at Tom's Guide, TechRadar, and PCMag)... but no, personally I would not.
On Thu, 13 Apr 2023 17:24:45 -0000 (UTC), Auric__ wrote:
David Brooks wrote:
Here's the pop-up I saw:-
https://postimg.cc/7fZ8Hbpb
TIA
It's probably okay, assuming the app is legit (and a quick search suggests it
is; good reviews at Tom's Guide, TechRadar, and PCMag)... but no, personally >> I would not.
It says VPN Unlimited.app wants to use your confidential information stored in "KSKeyChainManager" in your keychain. To allow this, enter the "login" keychain password. With choices of Always Allow, Deny & Allow.
Do you have a VPN Unlimited app?
Do you have a KSKeyChainManager app?
Were you using either or both of them at the time this popup happened?
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote ><xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely >would.
Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
I actually purchased the basic Norton for Windows, when Microsoft's
Windows Security started acting funny, seemingly sending me a not-so-
subtle hint to buy a third party's antimalware. It was only $20
introductory price for the first year, and a reasonable price to renew
in the future. There are aspects of it I could live without, but it
seems OK, really. I don't trust McAfee, and I wouldn't really trust a freeware one. Norton was a familiar name, albeit I realize it's
changed ownership a few times.
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
I actually purchased the basic Norton for Windows, when Microsoft's
Windows Security started acting funny, seemingly sending me a not-so-
subtle hint to buy a third party's antimalware. It was only $20
introductory price for the first year, and a reasonable price to renew
in the future. There are aspects of it I could live without, but it
seems OK, really. I don't trust McAfee, and I wouldn't really trust a
freeware one. Norton was a familiar name, albeit I realize it's
changed ownership a few times.
Years ago Norton used to slow systems down HORRIBLY... but that was long ago. >Have not heard much bad about it since then.
Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
I actually purchased the basic Norton for Windows, when Microsoft's
Windows Security started acting funny, seemingly sending me a not-so-
subtle hint to buy a third party's antimalware. It was only $20
introductory price for the first year, and a reasonable price to renew
in the future. There are aspects of it I could live without, but it
seems OK, really. I don't trust McAfee, and I wouldn't really trust a
freeware one. Norton was a familiar name, albeit I realize it's
changed ownership a few times.
Years ago Norton used to slow systems down HORRIBLY... but that was long ago.
Have not heard much bad about it since then.
I have liked this current version, mostly. It does give me unneeded information, about what it's doing in the background, but it's OK, I
haven't gotten annoyed per se, it's just kind of like "I get the
idea".
It certainly was a good deal for the first year, better than
McAfee's introductory price, and it took care of the annoyance, with
Windows Security.
I had first encountered the weird issue, with Windows Security, when I installed the Linux subsystem, on my previous Windows 11 installation,
which had been upgraded from the initial Win10 installation, from when
I built the machine, in 2021. I wanted to wipe out the Linux
subsystem, which was only possible by resetting or doing a clean installation, so I made a USB installer drive, of the 2022 build of
Win11, and booted it, and started from the ground up. The Windows
Security issue was still present, so I bought Norton.
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely would.
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
On Apr 14, 2023 at 6:33:17 PM MST, "Joel" wrote <jlvj3i5q0dlccl8kao591v1ak97lsdkci3@4ax.com>:
Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
I actually purchased the basic Norton for Windows, when Microsoft's
Windows Security started acting funny, seemingly sending me a not-so-
subtle hint to buy a third party's antimalware. It was only $20
introductory price for the first year, and a reasonable price to renew >>>> in the future. There are aspects of it I could live without, but it
seems OK, really. I don't trust McAfee, and I wouldn't really trust a >>>> freeware one. Norton was a familiar name, albeit I realize it's
changed ownership a few times.
Years ago Norton used to slow systems down HORRIBLY... but that was long ago.
Have not heard much bad about it since then.
I have liked this current version, mostly. It does give me unneeded
information, about what it's doing in the background, but it's OK, I
haven't gotten annoyed per se, it's just kind of like "I get the
idea".
I know one such program has options for what it reports... but been too long and I do not remember the details. But there might be settings for that.
It certainly was a good deal for the first year, better than
McAfee's introductory price, and it took care of the annoyance, with
Windows Security.
I had first encountered the weird issue, with Windows Security, when I
installed the Linux subsystem, on my previous Windows 11 installation,
which had been upgraded from the initial Win10 installation, from when
I built the machine, in 2021. I wanted to wipe out the Linux
subsystem, which was only possible by resetting or doing a clean
installation, so I made a USB installer drive, of the 2022 build of
Win11, and booted it, and started from the ground up. The Windows
Security issue was still present, so I bought Norton.
Makes sense... though a shame the issue did not go away.
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
On 15/04/2023 08:40, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 6:33:17 PM MST, "Joel" wrote
<jlvj3i5q0dlccl8kao591v1ak97lsdkci3@4ax.com>:
Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
I actually purchased the basic Norton for Windows, when Microsoft's
Windows Security started acting funny, seemingly sending me a not-so- >>>>> subtle hint to buy a third party's antimalware. It was only $20
introductory price for the first year, and a reasonable price to renew >>>>> in the future. There are aspects of it I could live without, but it >>>>> seems OK, really. I don't trust McAfee, and I wouldn't really trust a >>>>> freeware one. Norton was a familiar name, albeit I realize it's
changed ownership a few times.
Years ago Norton used to slow systems down HORRIBLY... but that was long ago.
Have not heard much bad about it since then.
I have liked this current version, mostly. It does give me unneeded
information, about what it's doing in the background, but it's OK, I
haven't gotten annoyed per se, it's just kind of like "I get the
idea".
I know one such program has options for what it reports... but been too long >> and I do not remember the details. But there might be settings for that.
It certainly was a good deal for the first year, better than
McAfee's introductory price, and it took care of the annoyance, with
Windows Security.
I had first encountered the weird issue, with Windows Security, when I
installed the Linux subsystem, on my previous Windows 11 installation,
which had been upgraded from the initial Win10 installation, from when
I built the machine, in 2021. I wanted to wipe out the Linux
subsystem, which was only possible by resetting or doing a clean
installation, so I made a USB installer drive, of the 2022 build of
Win11, and booted it, and started from the ground up. The Windows
Security issue was still present, so I bought Norton.
Makes sense... though a shame the issue did not go away.
You may be interested to know that my ISP - BT - here in the UK provide Norton AV to ALL of its customers free of charge as part of its
Broadband deal. That's for either Windows OR Mac.
I've tried it and it doesn't appear to slow down performance noticeably.
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:44:52 AM MST, "Snit" wrote <UBs_L.2321021$vBI8.2244452@fx15.iad>:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
Actually, my apologies on the apology. LOL! But I was still wrong and will offer another apology.
Your link speaks of NEIKEv2... which I mistakenly thought was a Norton tool. It is not. Apparently it is a part of macOS and one that Norton uses:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v138741680
-----
The NEIKEv2Provider is a system service that uses the built-in
VPN protocol for Macs (IKEv2) to create secure VPN connections.
Norton uses this service when attempting to connect to the VPN.
-----
But given how it seems to be a part of macOS, I would not be concerned with it, if it is needed.
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely would.
On 15/04/2023 08:49, Snit wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:44:52 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<UBs_L.2321021$vBI8.2244452@fx15.iad>:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
Actually, my apologies on the apology. LOL! But I was still wrong and will >> offer another apology.
No worries! :-)
Your link speaks of NEIKEv2... which I mistakenly thought was a Norton tool. >> It is not. Apparently it is a part of macOS and one that Norton uses:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v138741680
-----
The NEIKEv2Provider is a system service that uses the built-in
VPN protocol for Macs (IKEv2) to create secure VPN connections.
Norton uses this service when attempting to connect to the VPN.
-----
But given how it seems to be a part of macOS, I would not be concerned with >> it, if it is needed.
If you check further, I think you'll find that it's NOT part of the macOS!
No need for further work on this, Snit.
Thanks for taking an interest.
On Apr 15, 2023 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <uit_L.244798$0dpc.206601@fx33.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 08:49, Snit wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:44:52 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<UBs_L.2321021$vBI8.2244452@fx15.iad>:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
Actually, my apologies on the apology. LOL! But I was still wrong and will >>> offer another apology.
No worries! :-)
Your link speaks of NEIKEv2... which I mistakenly thought was a Norton tool.
It is not. Apparently it is a part of macOS and one that Norton uses:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v138741680
-----
The NEIKEv2Provider is a system service that uses the built-in
VPN protocol for Macs (IKEv2) to create secure VPN connections.
Norton uses this service when attempting to connect to the VPN.
-----
But given how it seems to be a part of macOS, I would not be concerned with >>> it, if it is needed.
If you check further, I think you'll find that it's NOT part of the macOS!
What is it a part of?
On 15/04/2023 17:10, Snit wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<uit_L.244798$0dpc.206601@fx33.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 08:49, Snit wrote:What is it a part of?
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:44:52 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<UBs_L.2321021$vBI8.2244452@fx15.iad>:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
Actually, my apologies on the apology. LOL! But I was still wrong and will >>>> offer another apology.
No worries! :-)
Your link speaks of NEIKEv2... which I mistakenly thought was a Norton tool.
It is not. Apparently it is a part of macOS and one that Norton uses:
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v138741680
-----
The NEIKEv2Provider is a system service that uses the built-in
VPN protocol for Macs (IKEv2) to create secure VPN connections.
Norton uses this service when attempting to connect to the VPN.
-----
But given how it seems to be a part of macOS, I would not be concerned with
it, if it is needed.
If you check further, I think you'll find that it's NOT part of the macOS! >>
Internet Key Exchange version 2 (IKEv2) is a tunneling protocol, based
on IPsec,
that establishes a secure VPN communication between VPN devices and
defines negotiation
and authentication processes for IPsec security associations (SAs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Key_Exchange
HTH
On Apr 15, 2023 at 9:31:32 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <EjA_L.1182687$t5W7.706573@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 17:10, Snit wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 1:32:26 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<uit_L.244798$0dpc.206601@fx33.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 08:49, Snit wrote:What is it a part of?
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:44:52 AM MST, "Snit" wrote
<UBs_L.2321021$vBI8.2244452@fx15.iad>:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 12:32:24 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<cqs_L.1180688$t5W7.29360@fx13.iad>:
On 15/04/2023 00:42, Snit wrote:
On Apr 14, 2023 at 3:13:49 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<xek_L.2076077$9sn9.1375310@fx17.iad>:
On 14/04/2023 David Brooks also wrote:
[....]
See:- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250842108
Just another 'for instance'!
As much as I am no fan of Norton, if I was installing their software I likely
would.
What has Norton got to do with this?!!
No clue how this got onto this post... was responding to Joel who was speaking
of Norton. My apologies.
Actually, my apologies on the apology. LOL! But I was still wrong and will
offer another apology.
No worries! :-)
Your link speaks of NEIKEv2... which I mistakenly thought was a Norton tool.
It is not. Apparently it is a part of macOS and one that Norton uses: >>>>>
https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v138741680 >>>>> -----
The NEIKEv2Provider is a system service that uses the built-in >>>>> VPN protocol for Macs (IKEv2) to create secure VPN connections. >>>>> Norton uses this service when attempting to connect to the VPN. >>>>> -----
But given how it seems to be a part of macOS, I would not be concerned with
it, if it is needed.
If you check further, I think you'll find that it's NOT part of the macOS! >>>
Internet Key Exchange version 2 (IKEv2) is a tunneling protocol, based
on IPsec,
that establishes a secure VPN communication between VPN devices and
defines negotiation
and authentication processes for IPsec security associations (SAs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Key_Exchange
HTH
But who provides the software? Does it come with macOS?
Internet Key Exchange version 2 (IKEv2) is a tunneling protocol, based
on IPsec,
that establishes a secure VPN communication between VPN devices and
defines negotiation
and authentication processes for IPsec security associations (SAs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Key_Exchange
HTH
But who provides the software? Does it come with macOS?
On 15/04/2023 19:44, Snit wrote:
On Apr 15, 2023 at 11:12:07 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<XNB_L.435624$5S78.136730@fx48.iad>:
Internet Key Exchange version 2 (IKEv2) is a tunneling protocol, based >>>>> on IPsec,
that establishes a secure VPN communication between VPN devices and
defines negotiation
and authentication processes for IPsec security associations (SAs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Key_Exchange
HTH
But who provides the software? Does it come with macOS?
It is a part of the /System/Library/Frameworks/NetworkExtension.framework
Seems like it comes with macOS.
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension
Well researched! :-D
I expect Apd and Rafters will be pleased to read that!
Thanks.
On Apr 15, 2023 at 11:12:07 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote <XNB_L.435624$5S78.136730@fx48.iad>:
Internet Key Exchange version 2 (IKEv2) is a tunneling protocol, based >>>> on IPsec,
that establishes a secure VPN communication between VPN devices and
defines negotiation
and authentication processes for IPsec security associations (SAs).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Key_Exchange
HTH
But who provides the software? Does it come with macOS?
It is a part of the /System/Library/Frameworks/NetworkExtension.framework
Seems like it comes with macOS.
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/networkextension
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