Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents
not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating
CPU will crash.
Next, I would rotate the RAM into different slots. If there is a bad
DIMM, moving the bad one to a slot where perhaps the kernel is not
living will stop the panics. Even just removing them and re-seating
them can cure it if it is just a bad connection.
While you are in there, re-seat any power connections and drive
connections that are plugged in. Fluctuating power is a common cause of flaky hardware. But fluctuating power can also be a sign of a failing
power supply. Re-seating cables is the first, easy thing to do.
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
I had not installed any new software recently, and all of effort to
track down a cause for these failed.
I finally opted to restore the system from a Time Machine backup from
around a month before the problems started, but that does not appear to
have solved the problem which is leading me to suspect that I have some
sort of hardware-related issue.
Apple Diagnostics reports no problems, but also provides no details
regarding what sorts of hardware problems it is actually capable of diagnosing. Similarly, running disk first aid from recovery found no
issues with any of my disk drives (though of course that just looks at
the file system). Not all of my drives support S.M.A.R.T., but all that
do indicate no problems.
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
On 2023-04-25 21:24, André G. Isaak wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once
a year prior to that).
I had not installed any new software recently, and all of effort to
track down a cause for these failed.
I finally opted to restore the system from a Time Machine backup from
around a month before the problems started, but that does not appear
to have solved the problem which is leading me to suspect that I have
some sort of hardware-related issue.
Apple Diagnostics reports no problems, but also provides no details
regarding what sorts of hardware problems it is actually capable of
diagnosing. Similarly, running disk first aid from recovery found no
issues with any of my disk drives (though of course that just looks at
the file system). Not all of my drives support S.M.A.R.T., but all
that do indicate no problems.
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to
replace the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or
DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Classic "to do's"
- read the system logs
- SMC reset
- PRAM reset
Unplug/disconnect all external devices (other than mouse/trackpad and KB).
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents
not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating
CPU will crash.
Next, I would rotate the RAM into different slots. If there is a bad
DIMM, moving the bad one to a slot where perhaps the kernel is not
living will stop the panics. Even just removing them and re-seating
them can cure it if it is just a bad connection.
While you are in there, re-seat any power connections and drive
connections that are plugged in. Fluctuating power is a common cause of flaky hardware. But fluctuating power can also be a sign of a failing
power supply. Re-seating cables is the first, easy thing to do.
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace >>> the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents
not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't
think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU
temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any problems.
Next, I would rotate the RAM into different slots. If there is a bad
DIMM, moving the bad one to a slot where perhaps the kernel is not
living will stop the panics. Even just removing them and re-seating
them can cure it if it is just a bad connection.
While you are in there, re-seat any power connections and drive
connections that are plugged in. Fluctuating power is a common cause of
flaky hardware. But fluctuating power can also be a sign of a failing
power supply. Re-seating cables is the first, easy thing to do.
Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't thought to verify the RAM seating
or to rotate the DIMMs. I will give that a shot (the other cables I've verified already).
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace >>> the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents
not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't
think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU
temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any problems.
On 2023-04-26 16:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>> year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to
diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace >>>> the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents
not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating
CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't
think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU
temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any
problems.
It's not that hard. It does take a lot of room and a few unusual tools
like a guitar pick to unseal the unit and maybe a suction cup to pull
the display out.
Of course re-sealing it requires a new gasket which you can get from
iFixIt (along with the tools to take it apart ... good time to upgrade
the drive while you're in there too...).
Just watch the video "how to"'s first to avoid possible "bad things".
That said I'd only go in there if other avenue are exhausted.
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>> year prior to that).
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I also don't do yard chores.
In article <u2d2ug$1psg0$1@dont-email.me>, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>>>> year prior to that).
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I >> also don't do yard chores.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. >> I
also don't do yard chores.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining
table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
On Apr 26, 2023 at 5:45:18 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-26 16:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>>> year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to >>>>> diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace >>>>> the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM. >>>>>
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents >>>> not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >>>> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't
think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU
temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any
problems.
It's not that hard. It does take a lot of room and a few unusual tools
like a guitar pick to unseal the unit and maybe a suction cup to pull
the display out.
Of course re-sealing it requires a new gasket which you can get from
iFixIt (along with the tools to take it apart ... good time to upgrade
the drive while you're in there too...).
Just watch the video "how to"'s first to avoid possible "bad things".
That said I'd only go in there if other avenue are exhausted.
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I also don't do yard chores.
In article <Iow2M.2399979$iS99.735647@fx16.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. >>>> I
also don't do yard chores.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining
table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from >>>>>>>> kernel
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of >>>> it.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining
table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work
themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing
it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from >>>>>>>> kernel
panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than >>>>>>>> once a year prior to that).
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard or
mouse in the box...
In article <2Iw2M.1609581$MVg8.99507@fx12.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from >>>>>>>>>> kernel
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of >>>>>> it.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining
table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work
themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing
it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
In article <try2M.490558$mmyc.459761@fx37.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair >>>>> than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work
themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing
it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a
secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
interesting definition of useful, given that that it kernel panics
twice a day:
Unfortunately, the troubleshooting is going slowly because the panics
are frequent enough that they prevent me from doing actual work, but infrequent enough that it takes a long time to test each possibility
(e.g. I can remove one drive, use it for a day or two, get a panic, and conclude that that drive was not the problem, so that's two days spent
ruling out a single possible cause).
On 2023-04-27 12:03, nospam wrote:
In article <try2M.490558$mmyc.459761@fx37.iad>, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair >>>>>> than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work >>>>> themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing >>>> it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a
secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
interesting definition of useful, given that that it kernel panics
twice a day:
Exactly. Right now I don't consider it very useful until I can track
down the source of these panics. I'm certainly not going to be investing money in it when, for all I know, the CPU or GPU is gone flaky on me.
Unfortunately, the troubleshooting is going slowly because the panics
are frequent enough that they prevent me from doing actual work, but infrequent enough that it takes a long time to test each possibility
(e.g. I can remove one drive, use it for a day or two, get a panic, and conclude that that drive was not the problem, so that's two days spent
ruling out a single possible cause).
In article <try2M.490558$mmyc.459761@fx37.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair >>>>> than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work
themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing
it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a
secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
interesting definition of useful, given that that it kernel panics
twice a day:
at least with an ssd, booting will be faster after it panics, so all is
not lost.
kernel panics are generally hardware. fixing that is not going to be
worth it unless the fix is very simple, such as a loose cable that can
be reseated. while possible, it's very unlikely it is that simple.
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard or
mouse in the box...
who said anything about new mac or switching to a mac mini?
a used 2014 imac is cheap, less than $350 on ebay. a quick check shows
a bunch around $200, one as low as $50 (working, but poor condition).
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair >>>>> than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work >>>> themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing >>> it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a
secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
interesting definition of useful, given that that it kernel panics
twice a day:
Twisting away from things. The kernel panic is likely something that
will be resolved eventually (esp. if taken to a repaid shop that will diagnose and fix it handily enough.
On 2023-04-27 11:54, nospam wrote:
In article <2Iw2M.1609581$MVg8.99507@fx12.iad>, Alan Browne
<bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from >>>>>>>>>>> kernel
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take
care of
it.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining >>>>> table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
Depends on what it's used for afterwards - esp. if one does the work
themselves - it's far less daunting than people assume.
what it's used for is irrelevant. the calculation is very simple: if
the cost to replace it is less than the cost to repair, then replacing
it is a better choice, especially if the replacement has better specs.
The quoted price to replace an SSD from a downtown store here is $160 +
the price of the SSD and some parts. All in - about $350 + taxes.
(CAD). Then you have a computer that's useful for 5+ more years in a secondary role that has plenty of oomph left.
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard or
mouse in the box...
On 2023-04-27 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard or
mouse in the box...
1. You have a keyboard and mouse already.
2. <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204592>
In article <Iow2M.2399979$iS99.735647@fx16.iad>, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. >>>> I
also don't do yard chores.
not worth it for a mac that old.
Sure it is. But while it's in the shop (or on the operating dining
table), might as well upgrade the disk too.
it's a 9 year old mac that will almost certainly cost more to repair
than it's worth.
On 2023-04-27 15:12, Alan wrote:
On 2023-04-27 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard
or mouse in the box...
1. You have a keyboard and mouse already.
2. <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204592>
That requires that the iMac used as a monitor be bootable (and free of recurrent panics to be useful), and that both Macs be using High Sierra
or earlier. Not really a useful solution.
On 2023-04-27 14:42, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-27 15:12, Alan wrote:
On 2023-04-27 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard
or mouse in the box...
1. You have a keyboard and mouse already.
2. <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204592>
That requires that the iMac used as a monitor be bootable (and free
of recurrent panics to be useful), and that both Macs be using High
Sierra or earlier. Not really a useful solution.
1. Given that essentially none of the OS needs to be loaded to run
target disk mode
On 2023-04-27, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-27 14:42, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-27 15:12, Alan wrote:
On 2023-04-27 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard
or mouse in the box...
1. You have a keyboard and mouse already.
2. <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204592>
That requires that the iMac used as a monitor be bootable (and free
of recurrent panics to be useful), and that both Macs be using High
Sierra or earlier. Not really a useful solution.
1. Given that essentially none of the OS needs to be loaded to run
target disk mode
Actually, the iMac must be booted up in macOS before it is available as
a secondary display. I have relatives that use an iMac this way, and
it's somewhat problematic, because the iMac must be booted up, and often
they must press a keyboard shortcut on a keyboard connected to the iMac
in order to reconnect to it. It also uses energy and generates more heat
than a typical display the entire time it's being used. It's not optimal (especially on a long-term basis).
On 2023-04-27 14:42, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-27 15:12, Alan wrote:
On 2023-04-27 10:39, Alan Browne wrote:
A new Mac mini is far more that that - and has no display, keyboard
or mouse in the box...
1. You have a keyboard and mouse already.
2. <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204592>
That requires that the iMac used as a monitor be bootable (and free of
recurrent panics to be useful), and that both Macs be using High
Sierra or earlier. Not really a useful solution.
1. Given that essentially none of the OS needs to be loaded to run
target disk mode, it's unlikely that whatever is causing the kernel
panics will raise its head.
2. 2014 can be reinstalled onto the iMac, if necessary.
3. You're simply wrong about both the iMac and the machine using it as a monitor needing to be on High Sierra or earlier.
4. I'd still look at buying a new machine, as 9 years out of a computer
is a good long innings.
On 2023-04-27 01:58, gtr wrote:
On Apr 26, 2023 at 5:45:18 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >> wrote:
On 2023-04-26 16:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>>>> year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to >>>>>> diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of
hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace >>>>>> the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM. >>>>>>
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents >>>>> not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >>>>> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't >>>> think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU >>>> temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any
problems.
It's not that hard. It does take a lot of room and a few unusual tools
like a guitar pick to unseal the unit and maybe a suction cup to pull
the display out.
Of course re-sealing it requires a new gasket which you can get from
iFixIt (along with the tools to take it apart ... good time to upgrade
the drive while you're in there too...).
Just watch the video "how to"'s first to avoid possible "bad things".
That said I'd only go in there if other avenue are exhausted.
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I >> also don't do yard chores.
Your choice. It's just the "fear" of breach is overblown IMO.
Nobody cares about your aversion to yard chores.
On Apr 27, 2023 at 8:16:20 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-27 01:58, gtr wrote:
On Apr 26, 2023 at 5:45:18 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >>> wrote:
On 2023-04-26 16:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a >>>>>>> year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to >>>>>>> diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of >>>>>>> hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM. >>>>>>>
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents >>>>>> not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >>>>>> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't >>>>> think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU >>>>> temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any >>>>> problems.
It's not that hard. It does take a lot of room and a few unusual tools >>>> like a guitar pick to unseal the unit and maybe a suction cup to pull
the display out.
Of course re-sealing it requires a new gasket which you can get from
iFixIt (along with the tools to take it apart ... good time to upgrade >>>> the drive while you're in there too...).
Just watch the video "how to"'s first to avoid possible "bad things".
That said I'd only go in there if other avenue are exhausted.
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I
also don't do yard chores.
Your choice. It's just the "fear" of breach is overblown IMO.
Nobody cares about your aversion to yard chores.
I was trying to be light-hearted. I'll try to remember your name and avoid that in the future.
On 2023-04-29 12:08, gtr wrote:
On Apr 27, 2023 at 8:16:20 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >> wrote:
On 2023-04-27 01:58, gtr wrote:
On Apr 26, 2023 at 5:45:18 PM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >>>> wrote:
On 2023-04-26 16:43, André G. Isaak wrote:
On 2023-04-25 21:29, Bob Campbell wrote:
In article <u29ug2$139bj$1@dont-email.me>,
André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
Starting about 2 weeks ago, my 2014 iMac started suffering from kernel >>>>>>>> panics, averaging around 2/day (as opposed to probably less than once a
year prior to that).
Does anyone have suggestions for any utilities that might be able to >>>>>>>> diagnose RAM issues and/or drive issues and/or any other sort of >>>>>>>> hardware issue that might lead to kernel panics? I don't want to replace
the whole system if the problem is with a single peripheral or DIMM. >>>>>>>>
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
The first hardware thing to check is, are the fans working? Air vents >>>>>>> not blocked with dust? No dust on the CPU heat sink? An overheating >>>>>>> CPU will crash.
Sadly, I'm not qualified to take my iMac apart to do this, but I don't >>>>>> think there's a problem with my CPU overhearing. I can monitor the CPU >>>>>> temp and fan speed with iStat Menus and there doesn't seem to be any >>>>>> problems.
It's not that hard. It does take a lot of room and a few unusual tools >>>>> like a guitar pick to unseal the unit and maybe a suction cup to pull >>>>> the display out.
Of course re-sealing it requires a new gasket which you can get from >>>>> iFixIt (along with the tools to take it apart ... good time to upgrade >>>>> the drive while you're in there too...).
Just watch the video "how to"'s first to avoid possible "bad things". >>>>>
That said I'd only go in there if other avenue are exhausted.
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I
also don't do yard chores.
Your choice. It's just the "fear" of breach is overblown IMO.
Nobody cares about your aversion to yard chores.
I was trying to be light-hearted. I'll try to remember your name and avoid >> that in the future.
My apology - came off as elitist to me.
On Apr 29, 2023 at 11:07:52 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2023-04-29 12:08, gtr wrote:
On Apr 27, 2023 at 8:16:20 AM PDT, "Alan Browne" <bitbucket@blackhole.com> >>> wrote:
On 2023-04-27 01:58, gtr wrote:
I'd fork over a few bucks and have a local mac fixit shop take care of it. I
also don't do yard chores.
Your choice. It's just the "fear" of breach is overblown IMO.
Nobody cares about your aversion to yard chores.
I was trying to be light-hearted. I'll try to remember your name and avoid >>> that in the future.
My apology - came off as elitist to me.
Hey, that's cool--I like the idea of walking with a cane as something elitist,
instead of hobbled!
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