XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Bob Campbell wrote:
First of all, this list goes back 20 years, so no doubt the vast majority
of these have been fixed for many years.
Wow. The iPhone has TEN TIMES the number of exploits than Android does.
That's not a small amount.
That's an entire order of magnitude LESS SAFE the iPhone is than Android.
Ten times less safe!
Whew!
I didn't know about this list but it seems too few for 20 years, but it's apparently just the stuff that the Homeland Security feels is EXPLOITED.
I won't say how to interpret the severity of what that means, but I guess they're the worst case scenarios since they're known to have been used.
And when it says "Apple", we'd have to look to see if it's iOS or Mac
(or both) but if it's in webkit (which is common), it's usually everything.
Secondly, it's very interesting that you left Samsung out of the above totals. Since Samsung is the leader in Android phones, their 10 vulnerabilities need to be added to the above.
That's funny. Very funny. You Apple guys are always so ridiculously
desperate for excuses for why the iPhone has more exploits than Android.
When you Apple guys can contort the data to your advantage, you do.
For example, there was a thread not too long ago with Apple phones being something like 9 out of the ten most sold _models_ with Samsung being one
of the most sold _models_ but you Apple guys REFUSED to consider that
Android is fragmented so you claimed that Apple outsells Android.
Which was a lie.
A ridiculous lie.
Since everyone except you fools knows Android far outsells the iPhone.
You Apple fools are so desperate to find something, anything, where iOS
isn't worse than Android in almost every way that you contort the data.
Now, you assume EVERYONE is on Samsung, because again, it's to your
advantage in skewing the numbers given the number of holes in iOS.
You Apple fools have no concept of the idea that if you don't have a
Samsung Android - the effect is zero. So you can't add those 10 exploits.
It's the Android six if you bought a Motorola, for example.
And it may even be less than that depending on which Android versions.
(Same thing for iOS though.)
At the top level the iPhone is exploited TEN TIMES MORE than a Motorola.
But it really depends on the data since those ten times more Apple exploits
may be on an iPhone that is no longer out there for all we know right now.
Certainly some people are on Samsung but there are a lot who are not.
If an exploit is on iOS, it's likely on all the iPhones.
If the exploit is on Samsung, it's not likely everyone.
Which ones?
We don't really know.
We'd have to look deeper into each exploit.
At best, you have to take the 10 and multiply by the percentage of devices
sold which are Samsung, which, at best, is half so that's five, not ten.
And that's the MOST you can use since that assumes it affects ALL Samsungs.
And it's very likely not all Samsungs (just like Apple bugs aren't likely
all iPhones either).
But you iPhone fools are too desperate to claim victory when it's pretty
clear that the iPhone exploits START at ten times the exploits of Android.
So Samsung phones have the 47 Google vulnerabilities, the 6 Android vulnerabilities and the 10 Samsung vulnerabilities. Total 63.
Whoa. What's Google? Chrome browser is Google. Google servers are Google.
Randomly, this one affects Mac & Windows but not iOS and Android.
https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2019/03/07/google-releases-security-updates-chrome
Almost all the Google ones seem to be in Chrome.
Given you fools START at ten times the exploits of Android, I can see why you're so desperate to claim every web browser flaw is Android's fault.
Even when it's not.
Whereas Apple has 59 vulnerabilities, over ALL of their products.
Funny. You didn't mention that caveat when you spoke about Google.
Why is it that you iPHone fools are so desperate to lower the Apple number
at the same time you're even more desperate to raise the Google number?
The list STARTS at the iPhone having ten times the exploits of Android.
Macs,
iPhones, Watches, etc. Backing out the 7 that only affect Macs, that
leaves 52 vulnerabilities for iOS.
That's still roughly ten times the exploits for iOS.
It's clear how desperate you are to find some way to explain the way out of
the fact that "Apple doesn't always mean iPHone" but then you just claimed
that "google always means Android) even when it's mostly almost all Chrome.
What remains is the iPhone exploits are ten times that of Android.
And that's your STARTING point.
Even if you don't count the Samsung vulnerabilities, iOS has 52 and Google/Android combined have 53.
Except that almost all the Google ones were in Chrome on the Mac you fools.
Thanks for backing up what I said in the other thread.
Idiot. You think that by Adding every Google Chrome bug in the Mac to
Android you've "backed" up anything?
All you've shown is you're desperate to skew the numbers away from what
they are.
And what they are is the iPhone STARTS at ten times the exploits of
Android.
iOS is more secure than Android.
No. The iPhone starts at TEN TIMES THE NUMBER OF EXPLOITS of Android.
Someone needs to look at the data for each of those Apple & Google and
Samsung exploits, but it's clear that you're desperate to show that iOS
is not ten times the exploits of Android - even when it pretty clearly is.
Here's what you need to do if you are so desperate to prove that iOS
doesn't have ten times the number of known exploits of Android.
1. You need to look at each of the Samsung & Google & Apple exploits.
2. And then you need to understand which phones are actually affected.
3. In the case of Google, it's likely zero phones.
4. In the case of Samsung, it's definitely "some" phones.
Then you take the percentage of _those_ phones, and you can add them to the Android number as that percentage (which will NEVER be more than 50% and if it's only a couple of models, it's going to be something like 5% or 10%).
Do the same with the Apple bugs.
Only then can you show whether or not iOS has ten times Android's exploits.
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