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    From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 26 21:38:38 2021
    Trash Can (2013 Mac Pro)

    Tech specs:

    Display Support

    Connect up to:
    Three dual-cable 5K displays
    Six Thunderbolt displays

    Connections and Expansion

    4 USB 3
    6 Thunderbolt 2
    Dual Gigabit Ethernet
    HDMI 1.4 Ultra HD

    The "6 Thunderbolt display" is misleading because there are internal
    limkits once you plug in an HDMI display or any DVI displays with
    adpators. (you need to have active adpator). So this machine is very
    picky with displays.

    Right now I have 2 old NEC DVI displays ( 1280 * 1024 so effective 2560
    * 1024 on desktop) (DVI to DisplayPoprt active adaptor for each).


    I am not looking for massive displays. This is to work, not play games
    and I don't want super small letters since my eyesight not the same as
    when I was 20.

    Quick look reveals displasy tend to have USB-C or Thunderbolt 3
    interfaces. Some have HDMI (which require an active adpator on that MAC
    and limit of 2).

    QUESTIONS:
    So can a simple Thunderbvorl 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adaptor allow new
    displays to plug into a Thunderbolt 2/Display Port Mac?

    The 3 to 2 (and 2 to 3) adaptor:
    https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter?fnode=
    d43c24dbfb677a3acc4aec0a79c29282191ada2120449ef1e86be71f02e1de2973c192e14f0f45b101577dfd656575411b341a8a2f069a8ff545356b639ce6d88b972eef87db07d1ac725a96978a4c79970124edd967255991b36a555dffdb86080087454ce791dacf70c48b2531644c

    If this doesn't work, what would be my interface options in finding one
    very wide or 2 normal displays to replace my two old ones? If I look
    around, apart from USBC/Thunderbolt3 and HDMI, are there other
    interfaces still available or are these the 2 left?

    I ask prior to starting my shopping so I know what to look for.

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  • From Lewis@21:1/5 to JF Mezei on Mon Sep 27 10:25:42 2021
    In message <yg94J.139455$Kv2.9480@fx47.iad> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
    The "6 Thunderbolt display" is misleading

    No it's not.

    because there are internal limkits once you plug in an HDMI display or
    any DVI displays

    Note that it says THUNDERBOLT DISPLAYS and not HDMI Displays or DVI
    Displays.

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  • From David Sankey@21:1/5 to JF Mezei on Mon Sep 27 14:50:57 2021
    On 27/09/2021 02:38, JF Mezei wrote:
    Trash Can (2013 Mac Pro)

    Tech specs:

    Display Support

    Connect up to:
    Three dual-cable 5K displays
    Six Thunderbolt displays

    Connections and Expansion

    4 USB 3
    6 Thunderbolt 2
    Dual Gigabit Ethernet
    HDMI 1.4 Ultra HD

    The "6 Thunderbolt display" is misleading because there are internal
    limkits once you plug in an HDMI display or any DVI displays with
    adpators. (you need to have active adpator). So this machine is very
    picky with displays.

    Right now I have 2 old NEC DVI displays ( 1280 * 1024 so effective 2560
    * 1024 on desktop) (DVI to DisplayPoprt active adaptor for each).


    I am not looking for massive displays. This is to work, not play games
    and I don't want super small letters since my eyesight not the same as
    when I was 20.

    Quick look reveals displasy tend to have USB-C or Thunderbolt 3
    interfaces. Some have HDMI (which require an active adpator on that MAC
    and limit of 2).

    QUESTIONS:
    So can a simple Thunderbvorl 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adaptor allow new
    displays to plug into a Thunderbolt 2/Display Port Mac?

    The 3 to 2 (and 2 to 3) adaptor:
    https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter?fnode=
    d43c24dbfb677a3acc4aec0a79c29282191ada2120449ef1e86be71f02e1de2973c192e14f0f45b101577dfd656575411b341a8a2f069a8ff545356b639ce6d88b972eef87db07d1ac725a96978a4c79970124edd967255991b36a555dffdb86080087454ce791dacf70c48b2531644c

    If this doesn't work, what would be my interface options in finding one
    very wide or 2 normal displays to replace my two old ones? If I look
    around, apart from USBC/Thunderbolt3 and HDMI, are there other
    interfaces still available or are these the 2 left?

    I ask prior to starting my shopping so I know what to look for.

    You need to be very careful.

    i) Thunderbolt 3 is not the same as USB-C.

    Most monitors that I have seen have been USB-C, not Thunderbolt 3. A Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adaptor is of no use here.

    (similarly Thunderbolt 2 was not the same as DisplayPort, so again a Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adaptor is of no use)

    ii) Not all Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adaptors are bidirectional, some only supporting Thunderbolt 3 computer, Thunderbolt 2 device.

    The plus side here is that the Apple adaptor is bidirectional, so I have
    a Thunderbolt 3 RAID connected to an old Thunderbolt 2 Mac mini.

    Read <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT207266>

    D

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  • From JF Mezei@21:1/5 to Lewis on Mon Sep 27 15:32:58 2021
    On 2021-09-27 06:25, Lewis wrote:

    Note that it says THUNDERBOLT DISPLAYS and not HDMI Displays or DVI
    Displays.


    The 2013 Mac Pro has a physical HDMI plug. And at the time I bought it
    the specs said displayport as well as thunderbolt. So the adaptors I
    have and DVI to display port active adaptors not DVI to thunderbolt.

    So it isn't clear to me whether display port lives in thunderbolt3 and
    can easily be converted to displayport/thunderbolt 2 cables, or whether
    it is a superset and not compatible and can't be converted.

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