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    From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 07:45:59 2023
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional
    "settings" and stuck with that.

    The panel in settings to customize dates is gone
    eg: from Mojave: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/77wsfpibpop83ulewcbri/MojDates.png?rlkey=82cn1invx6awk8iiglz5kj4zw

    Digging around, I've found
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254773234

    So the terminal commands:

    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "1" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "3" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "2" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "4" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "5" "y-MM-dd"

    The above is over-kill, and I'll refine it over time - I think only
    option 5 is needed.

    Sort of fixes the problem - Finder, as long as the date field(s) are
    narrow enough (but not too narrow), now display date-time as I want it.

    Now to see how apps behave as other reports about Excel treatment of
    date/time on Ventura+ have issues. I haven't installed Office yet on
    the M3 iMac.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Alan Browne- on Sat Nov 11 15:29:53 2023
    On 11.11.23 13:45, Alan Browne- wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional "settings" and stuck with that.

    I see only one asshole in this group: *YOU*

    Stop your nymshifting:

    Alan Browne
    bitbucket@blackhole.com

    Nobody wants to talk to you anymore besides Wally alias Arlen?

    *LOL*

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem" (Ovid)

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  • From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 11:36:30 2023
    On 2023-11-11 09:29, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 11.11.23 13:45, Alan Browne- wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional
    "settings" and stuck with that.

    I see only one asshole in this group: *YOU*

    Wow - you are a touchy little twerp. So you approve of Apple removing
    setting options that are useful to people?

    Stop your nymshifting:

    Jumping to conclusions. On one Mac I use one ID, on the other a
    different ID. Sue me!

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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne- on Sat Nov 11 16:32:08 2023
    On 2023-11-11, Alan Browne- <oneway@down.net> wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional "settings" and stuck with that.

    The panel in settings to customize dates is gone
    eg: from Mojave: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/77wsfpibpop83ulewcbri/MojDates.png?rlkey=82cn1invx6awk8iiglz5kj4zw

    Digging around, I've found
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254773234

    So the terminal commands:

    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "1" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "3" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "2" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "4" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "5" "y-MM-dd"

    The above is over-kill, and I'll refine it over time - I think only
    option 5 is needed.

    Sort of fixes the problem - Finder, as long as the date field(s) are
    narrow enough (but not too narrow), now display date-time as I want it.

    Not really a fix then.

    Now to see how apps behave as other reports about Excel treatment of date/time on Ventura+ have issues. I haven't installed Office yet on
    the M3 iMac.

    That's what I'm wondering: how it will effect other apps.

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    JR

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  • From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sat Nov 11 11:54:14 2023
    On 2023-11-11 11:32, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-11-11, Alan Browne- <oneway@down.net> wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional
    "settings" and stuck with that.

    The panel in settings to customize dates is gone
    eg: from Mojave:
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/77wsfpibpop83ulewcbri/MojDates.png?rlkey=82cn1invx6awk8iiglz5kj4zw

    Digging around, I've found
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254773234

    So the terminal commands:

    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain
    AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "1" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain
    AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "3" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain
    AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "2" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain
    AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "4" "y-MM-dd"
    alanbrowne@Alans-iMac ~ % defaults write NSGlobalDomain
    AppleICUDateFormatStrings -dict-add "5" "y-MM-dd"

    The above is over-kill, and I'll refine it over time - I think only
    option 5 is needed.

    Sort of fixes the problem - Finder, as long as the date field(s) are
    narrow enough (but not too narrow), now display date-time as I want it.

    Not really a fix then.

    One must fulfill the rituals as stipulated in the Great Tome of Software Evolution:
    "Thou Shalt Not Implement A Solution Without
    First Implementing a Workaround, lest ye 401k Suffer!"


    Now to see how apps behave as other reports about Excel treatment of
    date/time on Ventura+ have issues. I haven't installed Office yet on
    the M3 iMac.

    That's what I'm wondering: how it will effect other apps.

    Well, Ventura's been out for over a year and I haven't heard of anything
    other than what I saw somewhere about Excel. I have uncountable
    spreadsheets and use date and time extensively for all sorts of reasons.

    Still looking for a deal on standalone Office for Apple Si. Can usually
    find a license in the $40 - $50 range.

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  • From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 15:04:49 2023
    On 2023-11-11 14:15, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 11.11.23 um 17:36 schrieb Alan Browne-:
    On 2023-11-11 09:29, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 11.11.23 13:45, Alan Browne- wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become >>>> less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional
    "settings" and stuck with that.

    I see only one asshole in this group: *YOU*

    Wow - you are a touchy little twerp.  So you approve of Apple removing
    setting options that are useful to people?

    Stop your nymshifting:

    Jumping to conclusions.  On one Mac I use one ID, on the other a
    different ID.  Sue me!

    Killfile you is more effective.

    Imagine my dismay...

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 11 20:15:53 2023
    Am 11.11.23 um 17:36 schrieb Alan Browne-:
    On 2023-11-11 09:29, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 11.11.23 13:45, Alan Browne- wrote:
    As previously mentioned, date formats in Ventura and Sonoma have become
    less flexible.
    Some asshole at Apple decided to straightjacket people into regional
    "settings" and stuck with that.

    I see only one asshole in this group: *YOU*

    Wow - you are a touchy little twerp. So you approve of Apple removing setting options that are useful to people?

    Stop your nymshifting:

    Jumping to conclusions. On one Mac I use one ID, on the other a
    different ID. Sue me!

    Killfile you is more effective.

    --
    Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne- on Sat Nov 11 23:06:12 2023
    On 2023-11-11, Alan Browne- <oneway@down.net> wrote:

    Still looking for a deal on standalone Office for Apple Si. Can usually
    find a license in the $40 - $50 range.

    Last time I purchased it, it was $49.99 for Home & Business 2021 through AppleInsider:

    <https://shop.appleinsider.com/>

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    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR

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  • From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Sun Nov 12 10:37:53 2023
    On 2023-11-11 18:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2023-11-11, Alan Browne- <oneway@down.net> wrote:

    Still looking for a deal on standalone Office for Apple Si. Can usually
    find a license in the $40 - $50 range.

    Last time I purchased it, it was $49.99 for Home & Business 2021 through AppleInsider:

    <https://shop.appleinsider.com/>

    Indeed - there's always one out there - just need to get around to it
    and to be sure it will run on AppSi first. I tried copying my installed
    intel v. over and MS cleverly anticipated that and directed me to Office
    365!

    The fiends!

    I'll locate the installer and try that - never know - might work well
    under Rosetta.

    Just finished porting some s/w from old mac to new mac - looks like I
    hard coded (bad boy!) some file references - took a while to hunt them
    down in the code. All good now but still need to test all the
    functions. At least one function warned me that exiftool was not
    installed - so at least I anticipated that some time in the past.

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  • From Alan Browne-@21:1/5 to Alan Browne- on Sun Nov 12 11:21:26 2023
    On 2023-11-12 10:37, Alan Browne- wrote:

    Just finished porting some s/w from old mac to new mac - looks like I
    hard coded (bad boy!) some file references - took a while to hunt them
    down in the code.  All good now but still need to test all the
    functions.  At least one function warned me that exiftool was not
    installed - so at least I anticipated that some time in the past.

    Just noticed a cool thing ... my app sometimes verifies files by
    issuing a system command to do a SHASUM and compare against a registry
    (or add to the registry). This is done in a background thread and is a
    very low priority. The cmd is:

    Cmd := 'taskpolicy -d THROTTLE SHASUM -a 256 "/Volumes/' + vname +
    '/' + fname + '"';
    if runcommand('/bin/sh',['-c',Cmd],Out^) then Sta^ := 3 else
    Sta^:= -1;

    SHASUM ends up on the efficiency cores (as reported by iStat).

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