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  • Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

    From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Quincy the fifth on Fri Mar 8 19:36:10 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Quincy the fifth wrote:
    Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

    Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
    Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union


    That's a damn shame.

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  • From Quincy the fifth@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 9 02:22:59 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

    Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
    Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 9 15:31:10 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-03-09 01:36:10 +0000, Hank Rogers said:

    Quincy the fifth wrote:
    Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

    Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
    Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union



    That's a damn shame.

    Meanwhile, New Zealand shops are not allowed to sell UK "Weetabix"
    (unless they cover up all the branding) because the greedy scum at the religious run cereal company Sanitarium* complain that it would confuse
    buyers of their "Weet-bix" product. :-\


    * Sanitarum, owned by the Seventh-day Adventist Church laughingly call
    themselves a "charity" organisation, so get all sorts of tax breaks,
    and yet is one of the biggest food companies in New Zealand and
    Australia. Just yet another example of the greedy church.
    Forget trying to get overseas companies like Apple to pay local taxes,
    get these greedy scum to pay their taxes instead!

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Quincy the fifth on Sat Mar 9 09:57:50 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-03-08 20:22, Quincy the fifth wrote:
    Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

    Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
    Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

    No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union

    1: Please put in links that don't have paywalls.
    eg: https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/8/24094543/epic-games-ios-developer-license-apple-dma

    2: Please cite the relevant info, such as:
    "" Apple confirmed the decision in an email to The Verge. “Following conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules,
    including our [Digital Markets Act] policies,” said Apple spokesperson
    Fred Sainz. “As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign
    the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.” ""

    --
    “Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”
    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Mar 9 09:52:57 2024
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    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:57:50 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.

    Apple lawyers lied in court and had to be admonished by the judge that they can't lie (sort of like Donald Trump's lawyers, but not nearly as bad) and
    even after that you still believe everything that Apple lawyers tell you?

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Mar 9 14:19:33 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-03-09 11:52, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:57:50 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

    No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.

    Apple lawyers lied in court and had to be admonished by the judge that they can't lie (sort of like Donald Trump's lawyers, but not nearly as bad) and even after that you still believe everything that Apple lawyers tell you?

    Fact is that Epic had to sign up to the new conditions to get on board.
    See the article that I posted.

    The rest is just sausage making.

    --
    “Markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”
    - John Maynard Keynes.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Sat Mar 9 17:39:40 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Alan Browne wrote:

    The rest is just sausage making.

    You're not going to like this post because it contains proof with cites.
    All you have is your religious belief that it's immoral for Apple to lie.

    Guess what.
    Apple is immoral.
    Apple gets caught in lies all the time.

    It's not surprising that you, a religious fundamentalist, isn't aware of
    what everyone else knows, which is that Apple has been proven to be a liar.

    So why do you believe anything from Apple when they're often caught lying?

    Apple's business model is to lie first & see if they get away with it. https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/apple-lied-breaks-its-promise-to-allow-fortnite-back-on-ios-under-its-rules

    And it's not just the rampant lies that Apple spews in Marketing adverts. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-lied-about-iphone-x-xs-max-screen-sizes-and-pixel-counts-lawsuit-alleges/

    Almost every time Apple settles a lawsuit, it's because Apple lied first.
    And usually APple makes myriad excuses for *why* Apple gets caught lying.

    Apple lied about data collection by exempting itself from its own rules. https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/apple_data_collection_lawsuit/
    "Apple has continuously lied about its tracking system by exempting itself
    from the rules."

    Apple has to be told to stop lying and ignoring facts by US judges. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/apple-chided-by-appeals-judge-it-heads-us-supreme-court-antitrust-case-2023-07-18/
    Apple's arguments "challenge an imagined panel opinion on an imagined
    record," Smith wrote."

    Multiple judges have said that Apple needs to stop lying to the court. https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/judge-we-cant-rely-on-what-apple-tells-court-in-privacy-suit/
    "Judge: We can't rely on what Apple tells court"

    Apple was proven in court to have lied repeatedly making excuses for their actions that they knew they did - but they lied and said they didn't do it. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay-113-million-to-settle-batterygate-case-over-iphone-slowdowns
    "Apple first denied that it purposely slowed down iPhone batteries,
    then said it did so"
    That lie cost Apple probably a billion dollars overall in associated costs.

    Those are cites of fact where most of the lawsuits are about Apple's lies.
    All you have is your fanatical religious belief that Apple never lies.

    Please don't bother giving your religious beliefs as your only argument.
    If you don't have any cites of factual evidence, then you are religious.

    Religion doesn't need any proof.
    Worse. Religion ignores proof.
    That's you. And Trump. You're twins.

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  • From Hank Rogers@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Mar 9 17:20:56 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Ken Blake wrote:
    Guess what.
    Apple is immoral.
    Apple gets caught in lies all the time.

    Bullshit. YOU are ARLEN!

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Hank Rogers on Sat Mar 9 21:21:43 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:20:56 -0600, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:

    Apple gets caught in lies all the time.

    Bullshit.

    Which of the half dozen public cites provided are you saying are bullshit?

    Cite #1: https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/apple-lied-breaks-its-promise-to-allow-fortnite-back-on-ios-under-its-rules
    Cite #2: https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-lied-about-iphone-x-xs-max-screen-sizes-and-pixel-counts-lawsuit-alleges/
    Cite #3:
    https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/apple_data_collection_lawsuit/
    Cite #4: https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/apple-chided-by-appeals-judge-it-heads-us-supreme-court-antitrust-case-2023-07-18/
    Cite #5: https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/judge-we-cant-rely-on-what-apple-tells-court-in-privacy-suit/
    Cite #6: https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay-113-million-to-settle-batterygate-case-over-iphone-slowdowns

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