• AI: "Apple Intelligence" - personal and private + ChatGPT 4o

    From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 10 14:44:43 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on
    _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps. (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers. No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it. (Recent use has come up with
    a lot of flaws). Also remembers the recent context in Siri as well as
    your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways. Grammar checking, tone, etc. Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration. (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account. If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it. Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of course.

    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

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    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
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  • From Jolly Roger@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Mon Jun 10 19:13:38 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10, Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> wrote:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps. (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers. No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it. (Recent use has come up with
    a lot of flaws). Also remembers the recent context in Siri as well as
    your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways. Grammar checking, tone, etc. Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration. (silly fun).

    Bring it! The way they describe the architecture and the demonstrations
    all look very promising!

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account. If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    I can do without the ChatGPT stuff. Much more interested in Apple's own
    private curated AI capabilities.

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    JR

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Jun 11 08:55:23 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10 18:44:43 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps. (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers. No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it. (Recent use has come up
    with a lot of flaws). Also remembers the recent context in Siri as
    well as your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways. Grammar checking, tone, etc. Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration. (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account. If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it. Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of course.

    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

    And *nobody* even knows why or what they would want the useless crap
    actually for ... the geek brigade just want it so big tech is happy to
    add it to everything and charge you more for doing it. :-\

    Yet more pointless gimmick "features" added while still not fixing all
    the annoying bugs.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Jolly Roger on Mon Jun 10 16:18:47 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10 15:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2024-06-10, Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> wrote:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on
    _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps. (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers. No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it. (Recent use has come up with
    a lot of flaws). Also remembers the recent context in Siri as well as
    your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways. Grammar checking, tone, etc. Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration. (silly fun).

    Bring it! The way they describe the architecture and the demonstrations
    all look very promising!

    Indeed.


    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account. If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    I can do without the ChatGPT stuff. Much more interested in Apple's own private curated AI capabilities.

    As I understand it - the "Apple side" is all personal/private
    information relationships and the ChatGPT side is to bring in outside information. If you think of it in terms of fusing the two, then things
    get quite powerful.

    I've been using ChatGPT 2 sporadically over the last couple years and it
    is very good (as long as you check it). 4 / 4o should bring a hell of a
    lot more - even w/o the paywall version.

    I'm not ChatGPT shy or averse - the more tools (and entertainment) I get
    the better.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Your Name on Mon Jun 10 17:10:58 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10 16:55, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 18:44:43 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on
    _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps.  (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers.  No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it.  (Recent use has come up
    with a lot of flaws).  Also remembers the recent context in Siri as
    well as your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways.  Grammar checking, tone, etc.  Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration.  (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account.  If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it.  Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of
    course.

    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

    And *nobody* even knows why or what they would want the useless crap
    actually for ... the geek brigade just want it so big tech is happy to
    add it to everything and charge you more for doing it.  :-\

    Yet more pointless gimmick "features" added while still not fixing all
    the annoying bugs.

    I recently read the Ken Follett book, "The Armour of Light" and it
    mentioned the Luddite uprising against industrialization.

    You were first to come to mind!


    I've been using ChatGPT for a couple years, it's very good. An example:
    I wrote a long letter in French but found it too casual for the intended audience. I had ChatGPT change it to be more serious in tone. It
    employed French formality a little too strongly, so I asked it to be
    more Québecois in tone (and still formal). It handled it beautifully.

    Here's another nice example:
    "Please compose a three paragraph essay comparing large language models
    to the admonishment in "Dune" forbidding the making of machines in the
    likeness of the human mind."

    Result:
    "Large language models, such as GPT-3, share an intriguing parallel with
    the cautionary tale presented in Frank Herbert's "Dune" regarding the prohibition against creating machines in the likeness of the human mind.
    In "Dune," the Butlerian Jihad has left a lasting imprint on the
    universe, warning against the dangers of relying too heavily on
    artificial intelligence. Similarly, large language models have raised
    concerns about their potential consequences. While not machines in the traditional sense, these models, like GPT-3, possess an immense capacity
    to understand and generate human-like text. The cautionary undertone in
    "Dune" echoes in contemporary discussions about the ethical implications
    and control over powerful language models, hinting at the potential
    risks of unbridled reliance on advanced artificial intelligence.

    Both the Butlerian Jihad in "Dune" and the debates surrounding large
    language models grapple with the idea of preserving human agency and
    preventing the undue concentration of power. In Herbert's universe, the
    ban on thinking machines aims to safeguard human independence and
    prevent the creation of entities that might surpass or subjugate
    humanity. In a similar vein, concerns surrounding large language models
    center on the concentration of knowledge, influence, and decision-making capabilities within the hands of a few organizations or individuals. The comparison prompts reflection on the delicate balance between
    technological progress and the need to ensure that such advancements
    align with human values and autonomy.

    Despite the cautionary elements, large language models like GPT-3 also
    offer significant potential for positive impact. They have the capacity
    to enhance communication, generate creative content, and aid in various
    tasks. However, the key lies in developing responsible frameworks and
    ethical guidelines to govern their use. Just as the universe in "Dune" navigates the aftermath of the Butlerian Jihad, our society must grapple
    with the challenges posed by advanced language models and work towards harnessing their potential while ensuring safeguards against unintended consequences. Ultimately, the comparison invites reflection on the responsibility that comes with wielding powerful technologies and the imperative to shape their trajectory in harmony with human values."


    Which ain't bad. College profs have to use software to detect when
    their students are handing (e-mailing in) assignments to be sure they're
    not AI generated...


    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Tue Jun 11 12:35:29 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10 21:10:58 +0000, Alan Browne said:
    On 2024-06-10 16:55, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 18:44:43 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on
    _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps.  (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers.  No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it.  (Recent use has come up
    with a lot of flaws).  Also remembers the recent context in Siri as
    well as your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways.  Grammar checking, tone, etc.  Auto TL;DR
    summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration.  (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account.  If you have a ChatGPT account,
    then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it.  Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of course. >>>
    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

    And *nobody* even knows why or what they would want the useless crap
    actually for ... the geek brigade just want it so big tech is happy to
    add it to everything and charge you more for doing it.  :-\

    Yet more pointless gimmick "features" added while still not fixing all
    the annoying bugs.

    I recently read the Ken Follett book, "The Armour of Light" and it
    mentioned the Luddite uprising against industrialization.

    You were first to come to mind!

    "Nobody" was an intended exaggeration. The point being that 95%+ of
    people do not know nor care what AI is, and they will never knowingly
    use it nor want to use it.

    Apple needs to concentrate on the usability and fixing the existing
    annoying bugs (some of which have been there since OS X first created!)
    rather than continually adding gimmicks that only a tiny niche number
    of users will ever know about or use. :-\

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 11 08:09:40 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-10 20:35, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 21:10:58 +0000, Alan Browne said:
    On 2024-06-10 16:55, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 18:44:43 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on
    _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps.  (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using
    Apple Silicon based servers.  No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it.  (Recent use has come up
    with a lot of flaws).  Also remembers the recent context in Siri as
    well as your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways.  Grammar checking, tone, etc.  Auto
    TL;DR summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration.  (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account.  If you have a ChatGPT
    account, then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it.  Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of
    course.

    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

    And *nobody* even knows why or what they would want the useless crap
    actually for ... the geek brigade just want it so big tech is happy
    to add it to everything and charge you more for doing it.  :-\

    Yet more pointless gimmick "features" added while still not fixing
    all the annoying bugs.

    I recently read the Ken Follett book, "The Armour of Light" and it
    mentioned the Luddite uprising against industrialization.

    You were first to come to mind!

    "Nobody" was an intended exaggeration. The point being that 95%+ of
    people do not know nor care what AI is, and they will never knowingly
    use it nor want to use it.

    99.9% of people will be using it without really "knowing" it. It will
    be deeply embedded into the user experience.

    Just Siri remaining in context for follow up queries or instructions
    will be a huge leap. (Goldfish memory days will end...)


    Apple needs to concentrate on the usability and fixing the existing
    annoying bugs (some of which have been there since OS X first created!) rather than continually adding gimmicks that only a tiny niche number of users will ever know about or use.  :-\

    Agree Apple need to fix things - indeed stop breaking things that worked
    fine but they tend to dumb down or make needlessly obfuscated (Settings
    in Mac OS).

    But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
    abreast of the competition if not passing it.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Jun 12 08:33:25 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-11 12:09:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:
    On 2024-06-10 20:35, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 21:10:58 +0000, Alan Browne said:
    On 2024-06-10 16:55, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-10 18:44:43 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    Apple announce their AI as "Apple Intelligence" with the emphasis on >>>>> _personal_ and _private_.

    Integrated of course across Apple apps.  (... and 3rd party via App
    Intents API).

    Strong "action" oriented commands.

    AI will be on device for most processes.

    Private Cloud Compute for loads that can't be done on device - using >>>>> Apple Silicon based servers.  No storage of your data.
    Independent 3rd party source code verification.

    Siri to get AI - and boy does she need it.  (Recent use has come up
    with a lot of flaws).  Also remembers the recent context in Siri as
    well as your cross app context over time.

    Writing tools for various apps to rewrite messages (such as a mail
    message) in different ways.  Grammar checking, tone, etc.  Auto TL;DR >>>>> summary generator, etc. and so on.

    Reading tools to summarize incoming e-mails with relevant content.

    Emoji generator (text what you want, it gens an "emoji" like
    illustration.  (silly fun).

    ChatGPT 4o integration w/o an account.  If you have a ChatGPT account, >>>>> then "paywall" features will be accessible as well...

    (As soon as the Keynote mentioned ChatGPT - Apple stock shot up).

    Looking forward it.  Need devices compatible with the latest OS' of course.

    Ref: WWDC - 2024 - Keynote (YouTube).

    And *nobody* even knows why or what they would want the useless crap
    actually for ... the geek brigade just want it so big tech is happy to >>>> add it to everything and charge you more for doing it.  :-\

    Yet more pointless gimmick "features" added while still not fixing all >>>> the annoying bugs.

    I recently read the Ken Follett book, "The Armour of Light" and it
    mentioned the Luddite uprising against industrialization.

    You were first to come to mind!

    "Nobody" was an intended exaggeration. The point being that 95%+ of
    people do not know nor care what AI is, and they will never knowingly
    use it nor want to use it.

    99.9% of people will be using it without really "knowing" it. It will
    be deeply embedded into the user experience.

    Just Siri remaining in context for follow up queries or instructions
    will be a huge leap. (Goldfish memory days will end...)


    Apple needs to concentrate on the usability and fixing the existing
    annoying bugs (some of which have been there since OS X first created!)
    rather than continually adding gimmicks that only a tiny niche number
    of users will ever know about or use.  :-\

    Agree Apple need to fix things - indeed stop breaking things that
    worked fine but they tend to dumb down or make needlessly obfuscated (Settings in Mac OS).

    But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
    abreast of the competition if not passing it.

    AI is not a "feature". It's just another useless bandwagon-jumping
    gimmick to sell yet another new phone to stupid people. Thankfully the silliness can (reportedly) be turned off ... yet something else I need
    to include on the growing "turn off" list for on every device I set up
    for people. :-(

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  • From Your Name@21:1/5 to Alan Browne on Wed Jun 12 10:10:23 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-11 21:42:25 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    On 2024-06-11 16:33, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-11 12:09:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
    abreast of the competition if not passing it.

    AI is not a "feature". It's just another useless bandwagon-jumping
    gimmick to sell yet another new phone to stupid people. Thankfully the

    Given my experience with it (ChatGPT), and given the failings of
    "helpful" features such as Siri, it's plain you're complaining w/o
    knowing what it's all about and what it can and cannot do.

    The point was that 95% of users don't care what it can and cannot do,
    even if they understood it.

    "Artificial intelligence" (an oxymoron) is mainly for those who don't
    have any real intelligence and/or are too lazy to do things themselves.
    Same with "smart" devices, which are mostly just incredibly stupid.




    silliness can (reportedly) be turned off ... yet something else I need
    to include on the growing "turn off" list for on every device I set up
    for people.  :-(

    When you setup for "people" you should let them decide what they want -
    not impose your desires and prejudices upon them.

    The people I set up devices for are tech novices who just want to use
    the devices for simple things (like 95% of users do). The fewer
    complications and pointless "features" there are, the better it is for
    them ... and, yes, for me as well.

    Time Machine gets turned off, touch gestures on the mouse (other than
    scrolling up / down) get turned off, as did the old "squeeze me"
    button, etc. and so now will this useless AI nonsense.

    If it's something they specifically want or actually need, then it can
    get turned back on. That is what they pay me to know as their tech
    expert. The reality is that none of the things I turn off has ever
    actually needed to be turned on again ... because they *are* just
    marketing gimmicks that most normal people simply do not need nor want.

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  • From Alan Browne@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 11 17:42:25 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-11 16:33, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-11 12:09:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
    abreast of the competition if not passing it.

    AI is not a "feature". It's just another useless bandwagon-jumping
    gimmick to sell yet another new phone to stupid people. Thankfully the

    Given my experience with it (ChatGPT), and given the failings of
    "helpful" features such as Siri, it's plain you're complaining w/o
    knowing what it's all about and what it can and cannot do.

    silliness can (reportedly) be turned off ... yet something else I need
    to include on the growing "turn off" list for  on every device I set up
    for people.  :-(

    When you setup for "people" you should let them decide what they want -
    not impose your desires and prejudices upon them.

    --
    "It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
    the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
    Winston Churchill

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Your Name on Tue Jun 11 16:37:16 2024
    XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone

    On 2024-06-11 15:10, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-11 21:42:25 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    On 2024-06-11 16:33, Your Name wrote:
    On 2024-06-11 12:09:40 +0000, Alan Browne said:

    But adding features is where they have to go to keep relevant and
    abreast of the competition if not passing it.

    AI is not a "feature". It's just another useless bandwagon-jumping
    gimmick to sell yet another new phone to stupid people. Thankfully the

    Given my experience with it (ChatGPT), and given the failings of
    "helpful" features such as Siri, it's plain you're complaining w/o
    knowing what it's all about and what it can and cannot do.

    The point was that 95% of users don't care what it can and cannot do,
    even if they understood it.

    "Artificial intelligence" (an oxymoron) is mainly for those who don't
    have any real intelligence and/or are too lazy to do things themselves.
    Same with "smart" devices, which are mostly just incredibly stupid.




    silliness can (reportedly) be turned off ... yet something else I
    need to include on the growing "turn off" list for on every device I
    set up for people.  :-(

    When you setup for "people" you should let them decide what they want
    - not impose your desires and prejudices upon them.

    The people I set up devices for are tech novices who just want to use
    the devices for simple things (like 95% of users do). The fewer
    complications and pointless "features" there are, the better it is for
    them ... and, yes, for me as well.

    Time Machine gets turned off, touch gestures on the mouse (other than scrolling up / down) get turned off, as did the old "squeeze me" button,
    etc. and so now will this useless AI nonsense.

    If it's something they specifically want or actually need, then it can
    get turned back on. That is what they pay me to know as their tech
    expert. The reality is that none of the things I turn off has ever
    actually needed to be turned on again ... because they *are* just
    marketing gimmicks that most normal people simply do not need nor want.



    Wow.

    So no one ever learns anything new.

    Got it.

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