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  • No October posts yet?

    From David Dalton@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 6 19:47:30 2024
    It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
    one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
    problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
    abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Holger Schieferdecker@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 7 10:07:52 2024
    Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
    It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
    one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
    problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
    abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

    The latest CTAN Announcement post I can see here is from September 26.

    On the website there have been Announcements, so CTAN is not on holiday.
    But I can't tell what the problem is.

    Holger

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  • From Holger Schieferdecker@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 9 17:10:14 2024
    Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
    It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
    one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
    problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
    abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

    Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
    answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
    software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term. Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
    they have other important features to work on.

    In the meantime the announcements are available online: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann

    Holger

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  • From David Dalton@21:1/5 to Holger Schieferdecker on Wed Oct 9 19:26:47 2024
    On Oct 9, 2024, Holger Schieferdecker wrote
    (in article <ve66ckU18e22L1@usenet.in-ulm.de>):

    Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
    It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
    one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
    problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
    abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

    Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
    answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
    software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium term. Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides that
    they have other important features to work on.

    In the meantime the announcements are available online: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann

    Holger

    OK, thanks.

    --
    David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page) https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page) “And the cart is on a wheel; And the wheel is on a hill;
    And the hill is shifting sand; And inside these laws we stand" (Ferron)

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  • From Annada Behera@21:1/5 to Holger Schieferdecker on Thu Oct 10 09:26:10 2024
    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
    and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
    is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    Annada

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    [1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
    [2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

    -----Original Message-----
    From: David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com>
    Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
    Date: 10/10/2024 03:26:47 AM
    Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

    On Oct 9, 2024, Holger Schieferdecker wrote
    (in article <ve66ckU18e22L1@usenet.in-ulm.de>):

    Am 07.10.2024 um 00:17 schrieb David Dalton:
    It seems that the latest post I see on here before this
    one is from September 30. I wonder if that is a
    problem with Eternal September? Or has CTAN
    abandoned this group, or is on holiday?

    Yesterday I wrote to CTAN and mentioned the issue. Today I got the
    answer that this is due to CTAN’s move to a new server with new
    software. They hope that the service can be restored in a medium
    term.
    Unfortunately first they have to research how to do it, and besides
    that
    they have other important features to work on.

    In the meantime the announcements are available online:
    https://ctan.org/
  • From yeti@21:1/5 to Annada Behera on Thu Oct 10 06:51:46 2024
    Annada Behera <annada@tilde.green> wrote:

    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
    and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
    is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    It may be easy to register them with Feedbase[3] which would
    gate them to NNTP and even allow replies there.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    Alternatively creating comp.text.tex.ctan might be a nice solution too,
    while taking a bit<bs><bs><bs>long more patience.

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    [1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
    [2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

    [3]: <https://feedbase.org/about/>

    --
    3. Hitchhiker 3: (82) Ford shrugged.

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  • From Dr Eberhard W Lisse@21:1/5 to Annada Behera on Thu Oct 10 08:16:19 2024
    I do not agree.

    They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
    no discussion in thes news group anyway.

    It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
    priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
    the Usenet is or even access it.

    el

    On 2024/10/10 05:56, Annada Behera wrote:
    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
    and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
    be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
    there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    Annada

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  • From Holger Schieferdecker@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 10 08:52:29 2024
    Am 10.10.2024 um 05:56 schrieb Annada Behera:
    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
    and drowns out the discussions here.

    Maybe I could agree if there would be discussions here. But there are
    very few discussions. Nowadays they mostly happen on web based forums
    like tex.stackexchange.com.

    If you don't want to see the CTAN Announcements it should be easy to
    filter them.

    For people who really need to be
    up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
    is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    I don't need to see the announcements for the reasons you mentioned. But
    I really appreciate them. I learned about several interesting packages I
    would have never noticed otherwise.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    For me it is very convenient to have them both in one place.

    Holger

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    [1]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/rss
    [2]: https://ctan.org/ctan-ann/atom

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  • From Annada Behera@21:1/5 to Annada Behera on Thu Oct 10 13:02:43 2024
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
    Reply-To: nospam@lisse.NA
    Subject: Re: No October posts yet?
    Date: 10/10/2024 11:46:19 AM
    Newsgroups: comp.text.tex

    I do not agree.

    They are low volume, easily identified by subject and there is next to
    no discussion in thes news group anyway.
    So what? I think it is preferable to have low high quality (or good)
    posts in the newsgroup than a bot spamming update for every package in
    CTAN. What purpose does it serve that RSS/Atom doesn't? Anyone interested
    in discussing a package update can make a thread.

    I also like the idea that a separate newsgroup comp.text.tex.ctan to keep
    this newsgroup from getting overrun with the announcements. But then it
    is redundant with a feed reader.

    It's a bit of a shame, but it is understandable that this is not a
    priority for the CTAN Team any longer, only a few dinosaurs know what
    the Usenet is or even access it.
    Agree. It is more work for CTAN team/admin. Better not bother.

    Annada

    On 2024/10/10 05:56, Annada Behera wrote:
    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
     and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to
    be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors),
    there is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    Annada

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  • From Ulrike Fischer@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 10 13:50:12 2024
    Am Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:26:10 +0530 schrieb Annada Behera:

    To be honest, I think CTAN Announcements are spam. It is high volume
    and drowns out the discussions here. For people who really need to be up-to-date with CTAN packages (like people maintaining mirrors), there
    is both Atom[2] and RSS[1] feed to help them keep track.

    The postings here are not for people who need to be up-to-date.
    These people read ctan.announce or something like that. The postings
    here are for the "normal" user, the wider (now smaller) audience, so
    that they see that development is going on and perhaps check what a
    update is doing or what a new package offers.

    I think this channel should be for more interesting discussions.

    The few ctan annoucements do not restrict your right to start an
    interesting discussion. But the group is quite low traffic now
    compared to what it was years ago. Nowadays you find more people one
    sites like tex.stackexchange.



    --
    Ulrike Fischer
    http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/

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