Hi Louis-Philippe (2024.10.06_15:51:39_+0000)

pypy3
python3.12 (U)

Those are both false positives as they are python implementations.

Stefano

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Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 11:51:39AM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe V�ronneau:

The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be ready. \0/

I'm hereby proposing to do a mass bug filing for all the packages that are currently
using libraries that will be deprecated in Python 3.13.

...

I'm planning on opening the bugs on Monday.

...

Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org>
gnumed-client (U)
gnumed-server (U)

That's a false positive. It uses mailcap, which is removed
in 3.13, but when it fails to import mailcap from stdlib it
uses its own copy.

Best,
Karsten
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Hi,

Am 06.10.24 um 17:51 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau:

Hello,

The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be
ready. \0/

is there a repo existing where a current WIP of the Python 3.13 is built
as .deb packages?
Or could this be prepared?

Would be helpful for looking at some packages I think.

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Carsten

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Hi Carsten (2024.10.06_19:09:26_+0000)

is there a repo existing where a current WIP of the Python 3.13 is built as .deb packages?
Or could this be prepared?

Debian unstable.

But nothing is built against it, yet. That will happen when the release
team is ready to start the python3.13-add transition.

Stefano

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On 06.10.24 21:12, Stefano Rivera wrote:

Hi Carsten (2024.10.06_19:09:26_+0000)

is there a repo existing where a current WIP of the Python 3.13 is built as >> .deb packages?
Or could this be prepared?

Debian unstable.

But nothing is built against it, yet. That will happen when the release
team is ready to start the python3.13-add transition.

plus we should not do that before the 3.13 upstream release. I'm
targeting 1-2 weeks after the 3.13 release for the addition of 3.13 as a supported Python version.

Matthias

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On 06.10.24 17:51, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:

Hello,

The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be
ready. \0/

I'm hereby proposing to do a mass bug filing for all the packages that
are currently using libraries that will be deprecated in Python 3.13. As
of now, 208 packages are affected.

Attached is a dd-list.txt file and a sample email, based on the qtwebengine-opensource-src source package (the first in my list).

Happy to make changes to the email template if needed. I'm planning on opening the bugs on Monday.

that looks good to me. You might want to check with the 3.13 bugs
already filed by Stefano for overlaps, but that should not be a
showstopper. It's important that maintainers are aware of these reports,
and that we can raise severities when we are progressing with the 3.13 transitions.

Matthias

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Hi Scott (2024.10.07_04:56:04_+0000)

Additional thought on this: should arch: all packages with this issue
have Depends python3 (=< 3.13) added in stable so they get upgraded in
the correct order?

FWIW, we now have python3-supported-min, so that should be
Depends: python3-supported-min (<< 3.13)

Or:
Breaks: python3-supported-min (>= 3.13)

Stefano

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On 2024-10-06 11:51, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:

Hello,

The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be
ready. \0/

I'm hereby proposing to do a mass bug filing for all the packages that
are currently using libraries that will be deprecated in Python 3.13. As
of now, 208 packages are affected.

Attached is a dd-list.txt file and a sample email, based on the qtwebengine-opensource-src source package (the first in my list).

Happy to make changes to the email template if needed. I'm planning on opening the bugs on Monday.

Cheers,

Done!

Here's the list:

https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?user=debian-python%40lists.debian.org&tag=pep-594-deprecation-313

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⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ pollo@debian.org / veronneau.org
⠈⠳⣄

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Hi Karsten,

Karsten Hilbert, on 2024-10-06:

Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 08:20:23PM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:

Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 11:51:39AM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau:

The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be ready. \0/

...

gnumed-client (U)
gnumed-server (U)

That's a false positive. It uses mailcap, which is removed
in 3.13, but when it fails to import mailcap from stdlib it
uses its own copy.

I would, however, still be interested in what lintian says.

I may have missed a dependency ;-)

You can lookup lintian flags affecting your software on UDD's
lintian form[1]. Regarding the use of deprecated Python
standard libraries, I see gnumed-client[2] and gnumed-server[3]
are only flagged with mailcap, so things ought to be alright.

[1]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/
[2]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?email1=&email2=&email3=&packages=gnumed-client&ignpackages=&format=html&lt_information=on&lintian_tag=uses-deprecated-python-stdlib#all
[3]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?email1=&email2=&email3=&packages=gnumed-server&ignpackages=&format=html&lt_information=on&lintian_tag=uses-deprecated-python-stdlib#all

Have a nice day, :)
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Am Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 03:52:58PM +0200 schrieb �tienne Mollier:

I would, however, still be interested in what lintian says.

I may have missed a dependency ;-)

You can lookup lintian flags affecting your software on UDD's
lintian form[1]. Regarding the use of deprecated Python
standard libraries, I see gnumed-client[2] and gnumed-server[3]
are only flagged with mailcap, so things ought to be alright.

[1]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/
[2]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?email1=&email2=&email3=&packages=gnumed-client&ignpackages=&format=html&lt_information=on&lintian_tag=uses-deprecated-python-stdlib#all
[3]: https://udd.debian.org/lintian/?email1=&email2=&email3=&packages=gnumed-server&ignpackages=&format=html&lt_information=on&lintian_tag=uses-deprecated-python-stdlib#all

Ha ! Didn't know about those, thanks �tienne.

Karsten
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