• Bug#1104105: cloud.debian.org: please update vagrant testing / trixie b

    From Filippo Giunchedi@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 25 18:40:01 2025
    Package: cloud.debian.org
    Severity: normal
    X-Debbugs-Cc: filippo@debian.org

    Hello,
    with Trixie getting progressively more frozen, I'm testing (hah!) upgrades with Vagrant and debian/testing64. I noticed the current image at [0] is a few months old;
    it would be great to have an updated version available. Thank you !

    best,
    Filippo

    [0] https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover/debian/testing64

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  • From Lucas Nussbaum@21:1/5 to Filippo Giunchedi on Sat Apr 26 22:10:01 2025
    Hi Filippo,

    On 25/04/25 at 18:35 +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote:
    Package: cloud.debian.org
    Severity: normal
    X-Debbugs-Cc: filippo@debian.org

    Hello,
    with Trixie getting progressively more frozen, I'm testing (hah!) upgrades with
    Vagrant and debian/testing64. I noticed the current image at [0] is a few months old;
    it would be great to have an updated version available. Thank you !

    best,
    Filippo

    [0] https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover/debian/testing64

    I tried to update the image, but again ran into issues with
    authenticatiing on the Hashicorp cloud. This is so frustrating. Back in January, HashiCorp broke authentication for free versions of Vagrant for several weeks (<< 2.4), and I had to use the non-free version to update
    the image. I still managed to upload the new version manually using the web interface.

    As I said in #1049999, I gave up on maintaining Vagrant. I'm also
    giving up on maintaining Debian images. If someone wants to take over,
    the tooling at
    https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/debian-vagrant-images/ still works
    (except for the upload part) and I can walk you through it if needed.

    But Vagrant is now non-free, has a limited future in Debian, and I would
    urge anybody looking at it to investigate alternatives.

    Personnally, I switched to Incus and since I missed a declarative way to describe my environments, I wrote Incant, a Vagrant-inspired frontend
    that brings that to Incus. (See https://github.com/lnussbaum/incant/)
    Also Incus has an image for Debian trixie uploaded on a regular basis
    (daily I think).

    Lucas

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  • From Filippo Giunchedi@21:1/5 to Lucas Nussbaum on Tue Apr 29 14:20:01 2025
    Hello Lucas,

    On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 10:02:57PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
    [0] https://portal.cloud.hashicorp.com/vagrant/discover/debian/testing64

    I tried to update the image, but again ran into issues with
    authenticatiing on the Hashicorp cloud. This is so frustrating. Back in January, HashiCorp broke authentication for free versions of Vagrant for several weeks (<< 2.4), and I had to use the non-free version to update
    the image. I still managed to upload the new version manually using the web interface.

    Thank you for that -- much appreciated also given how many hoops uploading requires now :(


    As I said in #1049999, I gave up on maintaining Vagrant. I'm also
    giving up on maintaining Debian images. If someone wants to take over,
    the tooling at
    https://salsa.debian.org/cloud-team/debian-vagrant-images/ still works (except for the upload part) and I can walk you through it if needed.

    But Vagrant is now non-free, has a limited future in Debian, and I would
    urge anybody looking at it to investigate alternatives.

    Personnally, I switched to Incus and since I missed a declarative way to describe my environments, I wrote Incant, a Vagrant-inspired frontend
    that brings that to Incus. (See https://github.com/lnussbaum/incant/)
    Also Incus has an image for Debian trixie uploaded on a regular basis
    (daily I think).

    I was already planning on moving away from Vagrant and this might be the last straw, I'll be looking at Incus and Incant

    best,
    Filippo

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