• Bug#1106076: please consider to indicate freeze and/or key package stat

    From Guillem Jover@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Mon May 19 14:10:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    Hi!

    On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 13:56:42 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    Package: tracker.debian.org
    Severity: wishlist

    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    I think this is probably related to #1039864?

    Thanks,
    Guillem

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  • From Guillem Jover@21:1/5 to Guillem Jover on Mon May 19 14:10:02 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    Hi!

    On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 14:03:49 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
    On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 13:56:42 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    Package: tracker.debian.org
    Severity: wishlist

    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    I think this is probably related to #1039864?

    Sorry forgot, and probably also #1039863?

    Thanks,
    Guillem

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 14:10:02 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    Package: tracker.debian.org
    Severity: wishlist

    Hi,

    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    Greetings
    Marc

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Guillem Jover on Mon May 19 14:20:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    Control: merge 1106076 1039864
    thanks

    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 02:03:47PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
    On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 13:56:42 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    Package: tracker.debian.org
    Severity: wishlist

    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to
    indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has
    superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    I think this is probably related to #1039864?

    Very much so. Thanks.

    Greetings
    Marc

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  • From Holger Levsen@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Mon May 19 14:40:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 01:56:42PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/devscripts says
    ∙ ∙ blocked by freeze: is a key package (Follow the freeze policy when applying for an unblock)

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/diffoscope says
    ∙ ∙ not blocked: has successful autopkgtest

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/debian-security-support says
    ∙ ∙ Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by sramacher (and before that it said it was blocked by the freeze...)

    so I think most of what you want is there already?


    --
    cheers,
    Holger

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    it’s probably a bad sign that guys are just doing sieg heils in public again.

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  • From Marc Haber@21:1/5 to Holger Levsen on Mon May 19 15:50:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 12:35:56PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 01:56:42PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a
    package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to
    a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to
    indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has
    superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/devscripts says
    ∙ ∙ blocked by freeze: is a key package (Follow the freeze policy when applying for an unblock)

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/diffoscope says
    ∙ ∙ not blocked: has successful autopkgtest

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/debian-security-support says
    ∙ ∙ Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by sramacher >(and before that it said it was blocked by the freeze...)

    so I think most of what you want is there already?

    As Far as I know, this informtion only displays when a package is
    actually waiting to migrate. I'd like to know how much pain I am likely
    to feel when I do a new unstable upload.

    Grüße
    Marc

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  • From Guillem Jover@21:1/5 to Marc Haber on Mon May 19 17:50:01 2025
    XPost: linux.debian.devel.qa

    Hi!

    On Mon, 2025-05-19 at 15:40:47 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 12:35:56PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote:
    On Mon, May 19, 2025 at 01:56:42PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
    the release team points people to the tracker to find out about a package's migration status. I would be nice to know what would happen to a package when it gets uploaded during a freeze. Maybe it is possible to indicate things like "this is a key package and needs a manual unblock
    to migrate at this time during the freeze" or "this package only has superficial autopkgtests and needs a manual unblock to migrate" etc.

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/devscripts says
    ∙ ∙ blocked by freeze: is a key package (Follow the freeze policy when applying for an unblock)

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/diffoscope says
    ∙ ∙ not blocked: has successful autopkgtest

    https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/debian-security-support says
    ∙ ∙ Ignoring block request by freeze, due to unblock request by sramacher
    (and before that it said it was blocked by the freeze...)

    so I think most of what you want is there already?

    As Far as I know, this informtion only displays when a package is
    actually waiting to migrate. I'd like to know how much pain I am
    likely to feel when I do a new unstable upload.

    And that changes depending on the stage of the freeze we are in. For
    example I uploaded a package with minor routine updates for the release, several days before the hard freeze, and thought it would get in even
    if crossing over the hard-freeze (as it has autopkgtests), as I had
    forgotten (as I usually do in these cases) that it was a key package.
    Having this information available in the tracker and the DDPO would
    probably have helped me in that case. (This particular case is not a
    big deal, because if there are migration worthy changes I'd need to
    do, I can always revert and request an unblock, but it's not ideal.)

    Thanks,
    Guillem

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