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Dear Moritz!
Moritz Mühlenhoff:
Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
For the oldstable distribution (buster), these problems have
been fixed in version 91.8.0esr-1~deb10u1.
Where can I get this from for buster and architecture i386?
< http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.xz
does not have it.
The Firefox ESR91 series triggers an internal compiler error
with the GCC version included in Debian 10, so there's no build
available currently.
Thank you for defining this.
There's one for Debian 11 (where GCC builds it correctly),
In the near future I will migrate to Debian 11.
but I'd instead suggest to switch to amd64 instead.
You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware
1#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 22
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 440 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 1
microcode : 0x43
cpu MHz : 1229.629
cache size : 512 KB
and
2#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
stepping : 4
cpu MHz : 1993.656
cache size : 512 KB
?
And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to
amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the
migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others
will be still i386. How does that go right?
I suggest, that further discussing should take place in debian-amd64@lists.debian.org.
Kind regards,
Friedhelm
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Dear Moritz!
Moritz Mühlenhoff:
Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote:
For the oldstable distribution (buster), these problems have
been fixed in version 91.8.0esr-1~deb10u1.
Where can I get this from for buster and architecture i386?
< http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/buster/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.xz
does not have it.
The Firefox ESR91 series triggers an internal compiler error
with the GCC version included in Debian 10, so there's no build
available currently.
Thank you for defining this.
There's one for Debian 11 (where GCC builds it correctly),
In the near future I will migrate to Debian 11.
but I'd instead suggest to switch to amd64 instead.
You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware
1#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 22
model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 440 @ 2.00GHz
stepping : 1
microcode : 0x43
cpu MHz : 1229.629
cache size : 512 KB
and
2#
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 15
model : 2
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
stepping : 4
cpu MHz : 1993.656
cache size : 512 KB
?
And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to
amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the
migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others
will be still i386. How does that go right?
I suggest, that further discussing should take place in debian-amd64@lists.debian.org.
Kind regards,
Friedhelm
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><br>>> does not have it.<br>
And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to
amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the
migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others
will be still i386. How does that go right?
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term support?
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the
choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term support?
And i you're runnin Lisp programs, you'll definitely want a 32-bit architecture, because Lisp fills memory with addresses. But you can do that with add-architecture i286.
-- hendrik
On 14.04.22 15:45, Levis Yarema wrote:
Is there in deed any reason to prefer amd64 over i586 if you have the choice and a machine with 2GB RAM or less, apart from perhaps long term support?
Depends on the application. Encryption and decryption
requiring the simulation of very larger integers shall be faster
when being based on 64bit integers. However these are rather
special purposes.
CPU and memory intense applications like the SAT-solver I am
developing on the other hand will be faster on i386 since a
memory reference/ pointer only requires 4 byte instead of 8
byte. Smaller size will yield less memory access cycles and more
cache hits and that can make an application considerably faster.
It is the cache that is effectively more important than the
register layout. Some SAT-solvers like f.i. the DNNF-c2d are
only available for Linux/i386, not for amd64.
Concerning general purpose applications normal integers keep
to be 32bit even on amd64. Note the sizeof(int). This is also
for the rationale described above. x86_32 programs can even be
smaller on disk and in memory. I personally dont think that
there is much reason to use amd64 with 2GB ram or less, except
for bigint calculations.
Note however that with a 64bit kernel you can execute programs
in a 64bit and 32bit chroot while this is impossible with a
32bit kernel. This is a reason why many people boot with a 64bit
kernel but use a 32bit installation. As for certain CPU and
memory intense programs you can run them as i386 binary even on
an x86_64 root given that i386 system libararies are installed
which is possible with dpkg --add-architecture i386.
That is not correct. You can make use of SSE instructions also in x86_32/i386 mode.
I found f.i.:
https://gcc.gcc.gnu.narkive.com/k0KqaZF2/i386-sse-test-question
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