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    From =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Mu=C3=B1oz_Fuente?=@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 29 15:10:01 2024
    El 28/10/24 a las 18:04, Leo Marín escribió:
    Respalda urgente y compra otro disco

    Hola Lista:
    El disco que uso es mecánico. Puse otro mecánico y no me ha dado ningún fallo. Pero el caso es que vuelvo a poner el que fallaba y tampoco me da
    fallo. De hecho llevo con ese disco varios años y nunca ha fallado
    (tiene poco uso, todos los días lo uso como copia de seguridad pero mis
    datos cambian poco). Si no es el cable, ni el puerto de la placa, ni el
    disco, parece un tema de la placa madre.

    Saludos

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Mu=C3=B1oz_Fuente?=@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 23 21:20:01 2025
    El 23/2/25 a las 16:49, Camaleón escribió:
    2. Manda a la lisa la salida de la orden (cambia la X por tu unidad):

    # verifica el dsico (prueba corta)
    smartctl -t short /dev/sdX

    # comprobar resultado de la prueba
    smartctl -a /dev/sdX


    Hola Camaleón:
    No me da error, esta es la salida:

    smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-6.1.0-26-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Model Family: Seagate BarraCuda 3.5 (CMR)
    Device Model: ST1000DM010-2EP102
    Serial Number: Z9A7P9FP
    LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 09309f35b
    Firmware Version: CC43
    User Capacity: 1.000.204.886.016 bytes [1,00 TB]
    Sector Sizes: 512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
    Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
    Form Factor: 3.5 inches
    Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5319
    ATA Version is: ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4
    SATA Version is: SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
    Local Time is: Sun Feb 23 20:58:43 2025 CET
    SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is: Enabled

    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    General SMART Values:
    Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
    was completed without error.
    Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled. Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
    without error or no self-test has ever
    been run.
    Total time to complete Offline
    data collection: ( 0) seconds.
    Offline data collection
    capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
    Suspend Offline collection upon new
    command.
    Offline surface scan supported.
    Self-test supported.
    Conveyance Self-test supported.
    Selective Self-test supported.
    SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
    power-saving mode.
    Supports SMART auto save timer.
    Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
    General Purpose Logging supported. Short self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
    Extended self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 105) minutes.
    Conveyance self-test routine
    recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
    SCT capabilities: (0x1085) SCT Status supported.

    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
    UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 070 063 006 Pre-fail Always
    - 12479922
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 098 097 000 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 088 088 020 Old_age Always
    - 12883
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 077 060 045 Pre-fail Always
    - 57583119
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 087 087 000 Old_age Always
    - 12041
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 088 088 020 Old_age Always
    - 12884
    183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always
    - 1
    184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always
    - 0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always
    - 1 1 1
    189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 072 059 040 Old_age Always
    - 28 (Min/Max 27/28)
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 094 094 000 Old_age Always
    - 12898
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 028 010 000 Old_age Always
    - 28 (0 10 0 0 0)
    195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 006 001 000 Old_age Always
    - 12479922
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age
    Offline - 0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 11982h+57m+05.638s
    241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 12580798068
    242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 5218949706

    SMART Error Log Version: 1
    No Errors Logged

    SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
    Num Test_Description Status Remaining
    LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
    # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 12041
    -
    # 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 11736
    -
    # 3 Short offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 11732
    -
    # 4 Short offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 10161
    -
    # 5 Extended offline Completed without error 00% 9901
    -
    # 6 Conveyance offline Completed without error 00% 9899
    -
    # 7 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9899
    -
    # 8 Short offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 9899
    -
    # 9 Short offline Completed without error 00% 9655
    -
    #10 Short offline Completed without error 00% 6527
    -
    #11 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 4839
    -
    #12 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 4839
    -
    #13 Extended offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 4838
    -
    #14 Conveyance offline Completed without error 00% 4838
    -
    #15 Short offline Completed without error 00% 4837
    -

    SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
    SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1 0 0 Not_testing
    2 0 0 Not_testing
    3 0 0 Not_testing
    4 0 0 Not_testing
    5 0 0 Not_testing
    Selective self-test flags (0x0):
    After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
    If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



    3. Ejecuta el LiveCD¹ de SeaTools² (Imagen ISO para CD-ROM (GUI). No importa el fabricante del disco, vale para todos) y si hay errores
    físicos los corregirá y marcará los sectores como defectuosos para que
    el sistema operativo no acceda a ellos.
    el livecd no me reconoce ningún disco y probé con otro más que tengo también.


    4. Si no te vuelve a dar guerra, puede ser un error
    temporal/circunstancial (polvo, mala conexión del cable sata...), pero conviene que actives el demonio smartd y que te mande notificaciones en
    caso de fallo, o que revises el registro manualmente para ver los
    mensajes de smartd.
    El disco que me da el fallo lo tengo jubilado. Ahora tengo otro y no me
    da ningún error. NO tengo ni idea de por qué pasa esto porque si
    smartctl no da error... El disco tiene 12000 horas de vida, así que
    tampoco es tan viejo.

    Muchas gracias por retomarlo.
    Saludos

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Mu=C3=B1oz_Fuente?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 24 21:10:01 2025
    El 24/2/25 a las 11:04, Camaleón escribió:
    SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
    Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
    UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 070 063 006 Pre-fail Always> - 12479922
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 098 097 000 Pre-fail Always> - 0
    (...)
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always> - 0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 077 060 045 Pre-fail Always> - 57583119
    (...)
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always> - 0

    Monitoriza esos valores «pre-fail» (sobre todo el 1 y 7) y si ves que
    van aumentando, las probabiliades de fallo aumentarán.

    Realmente el test no da ningún fallo o yo no lo veo :-)
    Los valores es verdad que no son buenos. El ideal es que valgan 100,
    pero los hay mucho más bajos, incluso cerca del umbral. La verdad es que interpretar smart no es nada fácil...
    Saludos

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Mu=C3=B1oz_Fuente?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 24 22:00:01 2025
    Es curioso, como os he contado he jubilado el disco que falla y lo he sustituido por otro que tenía que estaba usado y que no me da fallo,
    pues comparando las salidas, son muy parecidas:


    disco que no falla:

    ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
    UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 073 063 006 Pre-fail Always
    - 24105146
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 098 097 000 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always
    - 995
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 074 060 045 Pre-fail Always
    - 28543556
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 081 081 000 Old_age Always
    - 17464
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always
    - 976
    183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always
    - 3
    184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always
    - 0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0 0 0
    189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 075 057 040 Old_age Always
    - 25 (Min/Max 21/25)
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 1579
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 025 043 000 Old_age Always
    - 25 (0 10 0 0 0)
    195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 001 001 000 Old_age Always
    - 24105146
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age
    Offline - 0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 17462h+09m+23.631s
    241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 9855070562
    242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age
    Offline - 9543485675


    disco que falla:

    1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 070 063 006 Pre-fail Always
    - 12479922
    3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 098 097 000 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 088 088 020 Old_age Always
    - 12883
    5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 010 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 077 060 045 Pre-fail Always
    - 57583119
    9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 087 087 000 Old_age Always
    - 12041
    10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always
    - 0
    12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 088 088 020 Old_age Always
    - 12884
    183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always
    - 1
    184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always
    - 0
    187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 099 000 Old_age Always
    - 1 1 1
    189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 072 059 040 Old_age Always
    - 28 (Min/Max 27/28)
    193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 094 094 000 Old_age Always
    - 12898
    194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 028 010 000 Old_age Always
    - 28 (0 10 0 0 0)
    195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 006 001 000 Old_age Always
    - 12479922
    197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_ageOffline
    - 0
    199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always
    - 0
    240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline
    - 11982h+57m+05.638s
    241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline
    - 12580798068
    242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline
    - 5218949706

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