According to the XML schema [1], the following remote-id types are
currently allowed:

bitbucket
cpan
cpan-module
cpe
cran
ctan
freecode
freshmeat
github
gitlab
gitorious
google-code
heptapod
launchpad
pear
pecl
pypi
rubyforge
rubygems
sourceforge
sourceforge-jp
vim

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect
that?

Also, the "gentoo" remote-id was added the the DTD [2] but is missing
from the XML schema. Presumably it should be added there, too?

Comments please.

Ulrich

[1] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/xml-schema.git/tree/metadata.xsd?id=e8495470d00cd9912f3d216eb576b72a0f1fc77f#n273
[2] https://gitweb.gentoo.org/data/dtd.git/commit/?id=f265dac730ca5299280186f1d2ec90c84aa2a848

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On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 09:09 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

   rubyforge

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious,
and
google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

rubyforge has been shut down since 2015 so it can be removed as well.


Hans

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On Sun, 2022-05-22 at 09:09 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

LGTM.

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect
that?

Also, the "gentoo" remote-id was added the the DTD [2] but is missing
from the XML schema. Presumably it should be added there, too?

Comments please.

I think we should start documenting these values somewhere. Perhaps
in the GLEP, or maybe on some wiki page — particularly linking
the provider in question and documenting the value syntax.

--
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Michał Górny wrote:

I think we should start documenting these values somewhere. Perhaps
in the GLEP, or maybe on some wiki page — particularly linking
the provider in question

Wiki page sounds good. Presumably, we don't want to update the GLEP for
every change of the list.

and documenting the value syntax.

Let's start with gentoo. :)

We have one (currently commented out) precedent in sys-kernel/genkernel
which has:
<remote-id type="gentoo">git://git.gentoo.org/proj/genkernel</remote-id>

This is a little verbose. I propose using github or gitlab as a
blueprint, so above would simply be "proj/genkernel".

Ulrich

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

According to the XML schema [1], the following remote-id types are
currently allowed:

bitbucket
cpan
cpan-module
cpe
cran
ctan
freecode
freshmeat
github
gitlab
gitorious
google-code
heptapod
launchpad
pear
pecl
pypi
rubyforge
rubygems
sourceforge
sourceforge-jp
vim

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

I've created https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/25599 for the update
of the tree. For now, this removes freecode, freshmeat, and google.

Remote-ids gitorious and rubyforge are not (no longer?) used in the
Gentoo repository.

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect
that?

I'll push a commit for that later, but we'll have to update the XML
schema first (otherwise CI would fail).

Ulrich

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Hi,

On Sun, 22 May 2022 09:09:23 +0200
Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

I'm not sure about Google code.

While it's no longer an active site, it is still online in an archived
state. We maintain plenty of packages that have no active upstream, and
having a reference to an unmaintained previous upstream which still
allows downloading the code and the repo archive seems like a good
thing.

--
Hanno Böck
https://hboeck.de/

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Il Dom 22 Mag 2022, 09:09 Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> ha scritto:

According to the XML schema [1], the following remote-id types are
currently allowed:

bitbucket
cpan
cpan-module
cpe
cran
ctan
freecode
freshmeat
github
gitlab
gitorious
google-code
heptapod
launchpad
pear
pecl
pypi
rubyforge
rubygems
sourceforge
sourceforge-jp
vim

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect
that?

Also, the "gentoo" remote-id was added the the DTD [2] but is missing
from the XML schema. Presumably it should be added there, too?

Comments please.

How to propose new values?



<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il Dom 22 Mag 2022, 09:09 Ulrich Mueller &lt;<a href="mailto:ulm@gentoo.org">ulm@gentoo.org</a>&gt; ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">According to the XML schema [1], the following remote-id types are<br>
currently allowed:<br>

   bitbucket<br>
   cpan<br>
   cpan-module<br>
   cpe<br>
   cran<br>
   ctan<br>
   freecode<br>
   freshmeat<br>
   github<br>
   gitlab<br>
   gitorious<br>
   google-code<br>
   heptapod<br>
   launchpad<br>
   pear<br>
   pecl<br>
   pypi<br>
   rubyforge<br>
   rubygems<br>
   sourceforge<br>
   sourceforge-jp<br>
   vim<br>

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and<br> google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?<br>

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect<br> that?<br>

Also, the &quot;gentoo&quot; remote-id was added the the DTD [2] but is missing<br>
from the XML schema. Presumably it should be added there, too?<br>

Comments please.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How to propose new values?</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-
left:1ex">
</blockquote></div></div></div>

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Alessandro Barbieri wrote:

How to propose new values?

I'd say, file a bug with some rationale and the proposed syntax.

Ulrich

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Hanno Böck wrote:

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and
google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

I'm not sure about Google code.

While it's no longer an active site, it is still online in an archived
state. We maintain plenty of packages that have no active upstream,
and having a reference to an unmaintained previous upstream which
still allows downloading the code and the repo archive seems like a
good thing.

The same is true for gitorious, but we have dropped those remote-ids
from the tree nevertheless: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=f8fd6bd07efee4d36a1babf55d6e69c7cb4a93d4

However, I think that your point is valid. So the basic question is
whether we should keep dead upstreams in that list, for archival
purposes? If the answer is yes, then consequently we should also keep
gitorious (and maybe revert above commit?).

Ulrich

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

Some of them seem to be obsolete. Presumably freshmeat, gitorious, and google-code should be removed? Any other removal candidates?

Looks like SourceForge-JP was renamed to OSDN, should the file reflect
that?

Also, the "gentoo" remote-id was added the the DTD [2] but is missing
from the XML schema. Presumably it should be added there, too?

Thanks for all your comments. Taking them into account, the plan is:

1. Remove all freecode and freshmeat remote-ids from the Gentoo repo:
https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/25599

2. Remove freecode, freshmeat, and rubyforge from the XML schema.
We'll keep gitorious and google-code for now, because archived
versions of them exist.

3. Add gentoo and osdn to the XML schema.

4. Update pkgcore (it bundles a local copy of metadata.xsd) and wait
for a new release.

5. Rename all sourceforge-jp remote-ids to osdn in the Gentoo repo:
https://github.com/ulm/gentoo/tree/remote-id-osdn
(no PR yet because CI/pkgcheck would complain)

6. Remove sourceforce-jp from the XML schema. Sync pkgcore again.

7. Create a wiki page documenting remote-id types and their syntax.

Ulrich

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On Sun, 22 May 2022, Ulrich Mueller wrote:

On Sun, 22 May 2022, Hanno Böck wrote:

I'm not sure about Google code.

While it's no longer an active site, it is still online in an
archived state. We maintain plenty of packages that have no active
upstream, and having a reference to an unmaintained previous upstream
which still allows downloading the code and the repo archive seems
like a good thing.

The same is true for gitorious, but we have dropped those remote-ids
from the tree nevertheless: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=f8fd6bd07efee4d36a1babf55d6e69c7cb4a93d4

However, I think that your point is valid. So the basic question is
whether we should keep dead upstreams in that list, for archival
purposes? If the answer is yes, then consequently we should also keep gitorious (and maybe revert above commit?).

For gitorious, I went through all packages where that remote-id was
dropped in the above mentioned commit. These packages were either
last-rited, or moved to different hosting. So restoring gitorious in
package metadata makes no sense for either of them.

Also, https://gitorious.org/ has a security certificate that expired in
early 2019.

Unless I see any objections here, I'll drop gitorious from the XML
schema and the DTD tomorrow.

Ulrich

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